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   2 2015-03-11T02:11:48  <swills> can someone please point me at an IRC bot that announces MoinMoin RecentChanges?
   3 2015-03-11T02:14:26  <ThomasWaldmann> swills: i don't know any. but you could try doing a web search.
   4 2015-03-11T02:15:14  <swills> i did, the results weren't very useful
   5 2015-03-11T02:17:07  <swills> best i could find was this plan https://moinmo.in/IrcEventSystem
   6 2015-03-11T02:17:16  <swills> and a jabber bot, which doesn't help with IRC much...
   7 2015-03-11T02:19:56  <swills> i guess if i got someone to fix the rss feed on our recent changes page i could just use some irc bot that can spit out rss feeds
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  29 2015-03-11T15:55:10  <hafeez> Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim
  30 2015-03-11T15:56:00  <hafeez> vipul20: aap sugar labs me bhi dikhte he yaha par bhi..... aap bada hi hosyaar maloom padte he
  31 2015-03-11T16:00:58  <ThomasWaldmann> please use english on this channel or use a private query
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  33 2015-03-11T16:03:30  <hafeez> ThomasWaldmann:asalam walekum
  34 2015-03-11T16:03:47  <ThomasWaldmann> moin :P
  35 2015-03-11T16:05:24  <hafeez> ThomasWaldmann: moin
  36 2015-03-11T16:05:34  <hafeez> ThomasWaldmann: Now it's your turn
  37 2015-03-11T16:09:04  <hafeez> ThomasWaldmann: You should have said walekum asalam
  38 2015-03-11T16:09:51  <aviraldg> Err...
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  43 2015-03-11T16:31:15  <ThomasWaldmann> who was that? :)
  44 2015-03-11T16:31:42  <waldi> some idiot?
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  46 2015-03-11T16:52:49  <aabs08> ThomasWaldmann,  I donot know but I unable understand the advantage of making tickets nameless items as without giving numbers to tickets life would be very tough.
  47 2015-03-11T16:53:26  <ThomasWaldmann> aabs08: numbers collide, hashes don't (usually)
  48 2015-03-11T16:53:43  <ThomasWaldmann> and a hash is also just a number
  49 2015-03-11T16:54:04  <aabs08> but we can start from 1 and go to 10^6
  50 2015-03-11T16:54:29  <ThomasWaldmann> aabs08: git and hg could do that also, guess why they don't
  51 2015-03-11T16:55:19  <aabs08> bitbucket as a number associated to each ticket
  52 2015-03-11T16:55:52  <aabs08> its always easy to say I am on issue #403 rather than I will solve bla bla bla bugs
  53 2015-03-11T16:55:57  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, and we already had troubles due to that
  54 2015-03-11T16:56:30  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. think of this scenario:
  55 2015-03-11T16:56:44  <ThomasWaldmann> you fork moin bb repo to your bb useraccount
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  57 2015-03-11T16:57:16  <aabs08> okay
  58 2015-03-11T16:57:17  <ThomasWaldmann> you have an issue tracker inside your bb repo (e.g. for your special moin work)
  59 2015-03-11T16:57:33  <aabs08> yes
  60 2015-03-11T16:57:35  <ThomasWaldmann> someone creates issue #1 there for some bug he found in your code
  61 2015-03-11T16:57:49  <ThomasWaldmann> you fix it, commit with "bla, fixes #1"
  62 2015-03-11T16:58:10  <ThomasWaldmann> bb has some automation that closes bugs when it sees ".... fixes #XXX"
  63 2015-03-11T16:58:25  <ThomasWaldmann> so, when you commit, it closes your bug in your bugtracker
  64 2015-03-11T16:58:34  <ThomasWaldmann> until now, everything is fine
  65 2015-03-11T16:58:45  <ThomasWaldmann> now we pull your changes into main repo
  66 2015-03-11T16:58:56  <ThomasWaldmann> and it will close bug #1 in the main issue tracker
  67 2015-03-11T16:59:35  <ThomasWaldmann> which is of course about something completely different and must not be closed
  68 2015-03-11T17:00:07  <ThomasWaldmann> that's why you want hashes, not numbers
  69 2015-03-11T17:00:26  <ThomasWaldmann> or in general: GUIDs
  70 2015-03-11T17:00:44  <aabs08> ThomasWaldmann,  got you, thanx for your very patient answer :)
  71 2015-03-11T17:01:05  <ThomasWaldmann> of course, referring to some 32 hex digit number isn't easy
  72 2015-03-11T17:01:24  <ThomasWaldmann> that's why it should be possible to abbreviate that, as long as it stays unique
  73 2015-03-11T17:01:51  <ThomasWaldmann> so you could say "fixes #a3f0"
  74 2015-03-11T17:02:41  <aabs08> ThomasWaldmann, very  acceptable reason to make it nameless.
  75 2015-03-11T17:03:13  <ThomasWaldmann> also think about merging content from wikis, you'ld have collisions all over the place with numbers
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  79 2015-03-11T17:07:05  <bond007> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/207670043 Issue #508
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  86 2015-03-11T17:47:11  <truthadjustr> hi..
  87 2015-03-11T17:47:22  <truthadjustr> hi, anybody have a doc (howto) use the latest ckeditor_full in moinmoin?
  88 2015-03-11T17:59:41  <truthadjustr> ok.. how can i join moin-dev.. i have a novel new idea to add to moinmoin...
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  96 2015-03-11T19:33:44  <bond007_> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/207670043/
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 100 2015-03-11T20:25:48  <bond007> ThomasWaldmann: RogerHasse: https://codereview.appspot.com/215820043 Issue #510 + #508
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