1 2014-03-05T00:40:45 *** derdon
2 2014-03-05T02:07:58 *** sudo_dirk
3 2014-03-05T02:09:03 *** sudo_dirk
4 2014-03-05T08:07:52 *** sudo_dirk_
5 2014-03-05T08:11:02 *** sudo_dirk
6 2014-03-05T08:11:04 *** randomax
7 2014-03-05T08:51:31 *** greg_f
8 2014-03-05T09:01:02 *** randomax
9 2014-03-05T10:29:07 *** PirosB3
10 2014-03-05T10:39:58 *** PirosB3
11 2014-03-05T11:02:03 *** PirosB3
12 2014-03-05T11:48:06 <PirosB3> Hi all, I have just checked a working version of http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0
13 2014-03-05T11:49:32 <PirosB3> Should I be working on 2.0 or on a stable version?
14 2014-03-05T11:49:47 <PirosB3> to introduce patches/features?
15 2014-03-05T11:56:48 *** ingu_pc_
16 2014-03-05T11:56:48 *** sharky93
17 2014-03-05T11:56:49 *** sharky93
18 2014-03-05T11:56:52 *** ingu_pc_
19 2014-03-05T11:56:53 *** ingu_pc_
20 2014-03-05T12:04:49 *** randomax
21 2014-03-05T12:17:18 *** randomax
22 2014-03-05T13:05:50 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
23 2014-03-05T13:06:27 <PirosB3> hey @ThomasWaldmann
24 2014-03-05T13:06:34 <PirosB3> I was looking at this issue https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/422/docbook-creates-invalid-html-5
25 2014-03-05T13:06:54 <randomax> moin
26 2014-03-05T13:07:45 <PirosB3> Should we change the docbook page, or should the parser be smart enough to not nest invalid tags?
27 2014-03-05T13:07:52 <ThomasWaldmann> PirosB3: 1.9 is only getting fixes nowadays and features / tuning needed in production. new work is done in moin 2.0 repo.
28 2014-03-05T13:09:06 <PirosB3> great
29 2014-03-05T13:11:21 <ThomasWaldmann> about 422 - this is showing multiple bugs, so fix one after the other
30 2014-03-05T13:12:28 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. the type="video/" is invalid in video tag (and also, obviously the content-type given there is incomplete anyway
31 2014-03-05T13:12:41 <ThomasWaldmann> same for audio
32 2014-03-05T13:14:15 <ThomasWaldmann> PirosB3: when thinking about a gsoc project, keep the hints at the top of the ideas page in mind
33 2014-03-05T13:14:41 <PirosB3> @ThomasWaldmann I was thinking of combining 2 of them together
34 2014-03-05T13:14:41 <moinBot`> PirosB3: Error: "ThomasWaldmann" is not a valid command.
35 2014-03-05T13:14:58 <ThomasWaldmann> like that having changes that lead to a better releasable code is more important than having yet-another optional feature
36 2014-03-05T13:15:06 <PirosB3> I was thinking of combining 2 of them together
37 2014-03-05T13:15:37 <PirosB3> I am very interested in recommendation engines, and I have done a lot of front-end and back-end work
38 2014-03-05T13:16:00 <PirosB3> I wanted to combine the "Search UI" task with finishing the recommendation engine
39 2014-03-05T13:16:10 <PirosB3> that I found here: http://moinmo.in/MarianNeagul/RecommendationSystem
40 2014-03-05T13:16:26 <PirosB3> what do you think?
41 2014-03-05T13:17:04 <ThomasWaldmann> PirosB3: we don't have that code in moin2
42 2014-03-05T13:17:16 <ThomasWaldmann> so there is nothing to "finish"
43 2014-03-05T13:17:22 <PirosB3> exactly, so it would mean porting it over
44 2014-03-05T13:17:58 <ThomasWaldmann> while that is an interesting idea (esp. for the future), there are more pressing needs for right now
45 2014-03-05T13:17:59 <PirosB3> I started looking at whoosh, and I plan on getting familiar with the envronment
46 2014-03-05T13:18:12 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: what would you suggest?
47 2014-03-05T13:18:22 <ThomasWaldmann> if you just install and use moin2 a bit, you will see that there are much more fundamental things
48 2014-03-05T13:18:58 <ThomasWaldmann> some work on search has been done last summer btw
49 2014-03-05T13:19:31 <PirosB3> I just installed it. so would the SoC task would be to change the UI part only?
50 2014-03-05T13:19:58 <ThomasWaldmann> not necessarily, but the UI has a lot to do
51 2014-03-05T13:20:16 *** dave_largo
52 2014-03-05T13:20:24 <ThomasWaldmann> at least I wouldn't start completely optional and new features now
53 2014-03-05T13:21:05 <ThomasWaldmann> the problem for moin development in the last years has been that we have a working, stable 1.9 version with very old (and less-than-great) codebase.
54 2014-03-05T13:21:34 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: I know Ubuntu uses moin right? what version does it use? 1.9=
55 2014-03-05T13:21:35 <PirosB3> ?
56 2014-03-05T13:21:43 <ThomasWaldmann> people use that in production, so people tend to hack THAT version rather than work on our shiny new moin2 which has much better code, but can't be used yet.
57 2014-03-05T13:22:10 <PirosB3> I understand.
58 2014-03-05T13:22:21 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: what would you like to see in a proposal
59 2014-03-05T13:22:30 <ThomasWaldmann> most productive moins you find out there are 1.9 (and some under-maintained 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8)
60 2014-03-05T13:22:51 <PirosB3> given that fact that I do frontend-backend, so I can definitely contribute on that
61 2014-03-05T13:23:10 <ThomasWaldmann> did you install it locally yet?
62 2014-03-05T13:23:56 <PirosB3> yes sure :)
63 2014-03-05T13:24:00 <PirosB3> I am playing around with it now
64 2014-03-05T13:24:09 <PirosB3> I still am unfamiliar of concepts such as datastore
65 2014-03-05T13:24:37 <PirosB3> actually, I am quite confused :) where is the data stored? I uses SQLite I assume?
66 2014-03-05T13:24:38 <ThomasWaldmann> then just use it. just try to imagine that you are a end user who just wants to put up some content.
67 2014-03-05T13:25:36 <PirosB3> when I create a "sample" blog, where does the data come from?
68 2014-03-05T13:25:47 <ThomasWaldmann> from you :)
69 2014-03-05T13:25:52 <PirosB3> like the sample docbook, where is that defined?
70 2014-03-05T13:26:22 <ThomasWaldmann> it's just about the item type, which determines how it is rendered / how it is dealt with
71 2014-03-05T13:26:34 <ThomasWaldmann> (wiki vs. blog vs. issue tracker)
72 2014-03-05T13:26:57 <ThomasWaldmann> but blog and issue tracker are also things that have not a great ui / ux yet
73 2014-03-05T13:27:07 <ThomasWaldmann> and might be a bit incomplete also
74 2014-03-05T13:27:31 <PirosB3> ok. but the content "This software is provided as is, without expressed or implied warranty." where is that stored?
75 2014-03-05T13:28:11 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure what you mean. is it from theme footer?
76 2014-03-05T13:29:16 <PirosB3> nope
77 2014-03-05T13:29:31 <PirosB3> http://127.0.0.1:8080/docbook
78 2014-03-05T13:29:59 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it might be docbook item content then
79 2014-03-05T13:30:07 <PirosB3> and http://127.0.0.1:8080/+modify/docbook shows the markup
80 2014-03-05T13:30:40 <PirosB3> where is that "sample" file?^
81 2014-03-05T13:31:06 <PirosB3> also, why are there + signs in front of paths? and why are you not using rest conventions? any reason?
82 2014-03-05T13:32:48 <ThomasWaldmann> PirosB3: the sample content is serialized, see http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/19a3aee57a4f/contrib/serialized
83 2014-03-05T13:33:23 <ThomasWaldmann> if you tell moin to load the sample items, it will unserialize that into its storage, so one has something to play with
84 2014-03-05T13:36:34 <PirosB3> ok great
85 2014-03-05T13:37:04 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: so you don't think there is space for any recommendation work, at this moment, is that correct?
86 2014-03-05T13:37:45 <PirosB3> also, with regards to the admin, I have added the superuser = 'pirosb3' to wikiconfig
87 2014-03-05T13:37:46 <ThomasWaldmann> well, everything is relative. in that case to the other project suggestions we'll get.
88 2014-03-05T13:38:03 <PirosB3> still, I am not able to access the page
89 2014-03-05T13:38:11 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: how many slots do you have?
90 2014-03-05T13:38:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (I am not saying the idea is not worth doing, but I see it rather for 2.1 than 2.0)
91 2014-03-05T13:38:29 <PirosB3> ThomasWaldmann: I perfectly understand
92 2014-03-05T13:38:29 <ThomasWaldmann> what page?
93 2014-03-05T13:38:43 <PirosB3> the admin page
94 2014-03-05T13:39:01 <ThomasWaldmann> and the slots will be decided by google first and then by psf, I don't know yet.
95 2014-03-05T13:39:29 <ThomasWaldmann> be careful - is superuser a list of names?
96 2014-03-05T13:39:30 <PirosB3> oh okay
97 2014-03-05T13:39:46 <PirosB3> yes it is, I was just typing in
98 2014-03-05T13:46:14 *** RogerHaase
99 2014-03-05T13:47:54 *** skathpalia
100 2014-03-05T14:25:24 <skathpalia> moin
101 2014-03-05T14:27:20 *** darthy
102 2014-03-05T14:58:34 *** PirosB3
103 2014-03-05T15:41:56 <darthy> hello, can someone give me more idea about how subscriptions work in moin 2? subscriptions can be done only through the user settings page?
104 2014-03-05T15:47:04 <ThomasWaldmann> darthy: there should be a subscribe link on the ui if you are logged in
105 2014-03-05T15:47:25 <ThomasWaldmann> (try both basic and modernized theme maybe)
106 2014-03-05T15:49:25 *** diofeher
107 2014-03-05T15:51:00 <darthy> got it ThomasWaldmann .
108 2014-03-05T15:57:15 *** diofeher
109 2014-03-05T15:57:51 *** diofeher
110 2014-03-05T15:58:07 *** diofeher
111 2014-03-05T16:11:13 <darthy> http://codereview.appspot.com/70960045 . for issue 292. please review this ThomasWaldmann
112 2014-03-05T16:14:17 *** RogerHaase
113 2014-03-05T16:22:39 <ThomasWaldmann> darthy: trial?
114 2014-03-05T16:23:38 <ThomasWaldmann> darthy: i suggest you look at that CR yourself, there seems to be a lot of unintended changes
115 2014-03-05T16:27:27 <darthy> ThomasWaldmann, oh yes. will undo the unintended stuff and submit another code review
116 2014-03-05T16:29:25 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks
117 2014-03-05T16:36:09 *** derdon
118 2014-03-05T17:24:32 <randomax> ThomasWaldmann, moin
119 2014-03-05T17:24:43 <randomax> ThomasWaldmann, code review needed : https://codereview.appspot.com/65920047/
120 2014-03-05T17:31:45 *** greg_f
121 2014-03-05T17:52:40 <darthy> http://codereview.appspot.com/71640044 ThomasWaldmann made a new CR : issue 292
122 2014-03-05T17:58:29 <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: done
123 2014-03-05T17:58:40 <ThomasWaldmann> darthy: will have a look later, have to go now
124 2014-03-05T18:29:06 <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, I have another bug solved which you have reviewed but cannot send the pull request until my one pending request is accepted
125 2014-03-05T18:29:23 <skathpalia> Can you please have a look to my pull request https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/pull-request/198/fix-to-issue-412
126 2014-03-05T18:30:08 <skathpalia> Then only I will be able to send the pull request of adding subscription tab in basic theme
127 2014-03-05T18:33:43 *** darthy
128 2014-03-05T18:54:00 *** RogerHaase
129 2014-03-05T19:04:21 *** sibmonk
130 2014-03-05T20:06:53 *** sibmonk
131 2014-03-05T21:19:38 *** skathpalia
132 2014-03-05T21:20:56 *** dave_largo
133 2014-03-05T21:58:06 *** RogerHaase
134 2014-03-05T23:46:49 *** derdon
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