MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2014-02-08

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   8 2014-02-08T12:05:42  <penguinRaider> moin
   9 2014-02-08T12:06:16  <penguinRaider> I tried solving #397, made a patch  https://codereview.appspot.com/60490049/ ThomasWaldmann can you please review it ?
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  33 2014-02-08T19:51:11  <ajitesh> moin
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  38 2014-02-08T22:20:38  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  39 2014-02-08T22:21:24  * ThomasWaldmann just returned from cryptoparty at stuttgart's city library. nice event and quite some public interest from "regular" people.
  40 2014-02-08T22:33:52  <ajitesh> moin
  41 2014-02-08T22:34:57  <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, i had a doubt - Should i convert the tags in the markdown_in.py in converter module into unicode ?
  42 2014-02-08T22:35:14  <ThomasWaldmann> url?
  43 2014-02-08T22:38:09  <ajitesh> no element tags
  44 2014-02-08T22:46:10  <ThomasWaldmann> give some url pointing to the code line you mean
  45 2014-02-08T22:57:16  <ajitesh> http://rn0.ru/show/rxGKGqeGqpPlRlYJcSV2/
  46 2014-02-08T22:58:31  <ajitesh> moin-2.0/MoinMoin/converter/markdown_in.py
  47 2014-02-08T23:01:07  <ajitesh> https://bitbucket.org/ajgupta93/moin-2.0/src/b6136f5042c8615d9214b4af59dcd9ab4fc2124c/MoinMoin/converter/markdown_in.py?at=default
  48 2014-02-08T23:01:42  <ajitesh> they are all html tags so i thought it wouldnt be required to make them in unicode
  49 2014-02-08T23:06:31  <ThomasWaldmann> line number for the link you just gave?
  50 2014-02-08T23:06:59  <ThomasWaldmann> (the line number link to themselves btw, if you need to give a specific link)
  51 2014-02-08T23:08:44  <ajitesh> Line numbers 71, 74, 77, 91, 95
  52 2014-02-08T23:19:29  <ThomasWaldmann> for python 2, it doesn't matter. it is ascii, so a str gets converted to unicode if needed without a problem
  53 2014-02-08T23:19:52  <ThomasWaldmann> for python 3, it likely rather should be unicode as it is text
  54 2014-02-08T23:21:45  <sharky93> moin
  55 2014-02-08T23:23:40  <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, okk so i'll convert them to unicode too then..
  56 2014-02-08T23:24:58  <ThomasWaldmann> run the unit tests :)
  57 2014-02-08T23:33:21  <ThomasWaldmann> (and make sure it doesn't skip the related tests)
  58 2014-02-08T23:35:24  <ajitesh> okk :)
  59 2014-02-08T23:40:24  <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, i was going through the projects lists.. There one about improving the Search UI.. I was thinking if we implement something like facebook graph search - as in simple queries for complex searches..
  60 2014-02-08T23:42:13  <ThomasWaldmann> i don't know anything about facebook, so you need to describe it without referring to fb
  61 2014-02-08T23:43:10  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: can you review the ideas page whether it contains stuff you have already done?
  62 2014-02-08T23:43:29  <ajitesh> okk..
  63 2014-02-08T23:44:11  <ajitesh> so earlier people had to type in exact names of people or pages to search for them or to reach their profile
  64 2014-02-08T23:45:06  <ajitesh> but now what graph search has done is that a user can just type in query like "friends of personX who live in areaY and have interest in Z"
  65 2014-02-08T23:45:10  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: https://codereview.appspot.com/60490049/diff/1/MoinMoin/themes/__init__.py didn't you fix that already?
  66 2014-02-08T23:45:30  <ThomasWaldmann> (maybe issues should be assigned if sb is working on them, to avoid double work)
  67 2014-02-08T23:45:39  <ajitesh> and facebook automatically lists all such people who match the above criteria
  68 2014-02-08T23:46:46  <ThomasWaldmann> ah. and where is that graph in moin?
  69 2014-02-08T23:48:11  <ThomasWaldmann> (adding a natural language query interface is out-of-scope for sure, we are still working on the basics)
  70 2014-02-08T23:48:20  <ajitesh> so i was thinking maybe wikis could use something similar.. queries can be like "articles on topic X containing images on Y"
  71 2014-02-08T23:48:52  <ThomasWaldmann> and if you forget about parsing natural language (or english), what is left?
  72 2014-02-08T23:49:22  <ThomasWaldmann> topic X and transcludes Y
  73 2014-02-08T23:49:33  <ThomasWaldmann> whoosh can do that
  74 2014-02-08T23:53:03  <ajitesh> hmm.. i was thinking that mayb it'll make the UI more user friendly..
  75 2014-02-08T23:54:24  <ThomasWaldmann> by using natural language?
  76 2014-02-08T23:54:37  <ajitesh> and its just an added feature - otherwise ngrams, facetting, autocompletion and spellchecking are already TODO..
  77 2014-02-08T23:54:46  <ajitesh> yes
  78 2014-02-08T23:55:09  <ThomasWaldmann> what if the users are german or french, do you want to support german and french also?
  79 2014-02-08T23:56:45  <ThomasWaldmann> also, natural language tends to have ambiguities.
  80 2014-02-08T23:57:30  <ThomasWaldmann> so, this gets far into NLP scope, which is not where we want to go now (and maybe never)
  81 2014-02-08T23:57:43  <ajitesh> okk.. i guess thats right
  82 2014-02-08T23:58:33  <ThomasWaldmann> and if you look at current moin2 ui, there is a lot else to do, just to get it into releasable state.
  83 2014-02-08T23:59:39  <ajitesh> yes i saw.. just raw data is being displayed at many places..