MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2014-01-28

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   2 2014-01-28T04:59:54  <ajitesh_> ThomasWaldmann, Yes.. I read up.. in strings each character is represented by 1 byte.. whereas in unicode it can also use 2 bytes to represent 1 character.. so it can be used to address characters beyond the 256 ascii characters..
   3 2014-01-28T06:05:05  <ajitesh_> so while experimenting on the interpreter i saw that if i use string.format like -- 'xyz {0}'.format('actual cyrilic text') -- it works fine..
   4 2014-01-28T06:11:02  <ajitesh_> but if i send in a unicode string as argument it throws an error because it tries to encode it using ascii encoding unless define it as -- u'xyz ...'.format(abc)
   5 2014-01-28T06:17:31  <ajitesh_> and also the error only happens when i pass a unicode string, not in a normal string
   6 2014-01-28T06:40:40  <ajitesh_> so i guess unicodes need unicode format strings
   7 2014-01-28T07:46:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ajitesh_: it is usually 32bits/unichr nowadays
   8 2014-01-28T07:47:16  <ThomasWaldmann> and yes, the non-unicode format strings fed with unicode args is the problem
   9 2014-01-28T07:47:42  <ThomasWaldmann> for comparison, try "%s test" % u"äöü"
  10 2014-01-28T07:49:20  <ThomasWaldmann> or use some cyrillic or hindi chars
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  14 2014-01-28T10:20:08  <ajitesh_> ThomasWaldmann,  yes "%s test" % u"äöü" works
  15 2014-01-28T11:08:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ajitesh_: that is because here it automatically "upgrades" (decodes with the default ascii decoder) the format string to unicode while processing it
  16 2014-01-28T11:09:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, guess now you know what there is to do.
  17 2014-01-28T11:26:08  <ajitesh_> ThomasWaldmann, Yes i think so .. Just ran a grep command.. big task ahead :D
  18 2014-01-28T11:48:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ajitesh_: yeah, it's simple, but not small. and it needs to be done systematically.
  19 2014-01-28T11:49:01  <ThomasWaldmann> but solving that issue would be very welcome, it's open since a while...
  20 2014-01-28T11:57:56  <ajitesh_> ThomasWaldmann, yep it'd be my pleasure.. :)
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  28 2014-01-28T15:50:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: dreimark: eSyr: jhermann: RogerHaase: ronny_: sharky93: SteveMcIntyre: waldi: xiaq: xorAxAx: (and everybody else who may fit):
  29 2014-01-28T15:50:25  <ThomasWaldmann> google summer of code 2014 starts soon
  30 2014-01-28T15:50:44  <ThomasWaldmann> in a few days, the organisation application starts
  31 2014-01-28T15:51:15  <ThomasWaldmann> I could be org admin as usual, but i need a backup admin (in case a truck hits me).
  32 2014-01-28T15:51:57  <ThomasWaldmann> also, we need some people who would like to mentor students.
  33 2014-01-28T15:52:26  <ThomasWaldmann> and (later, if we get accepted): some students ;)
  34 2014-01-28T15:53:03  <ThomasWaldmann> everybody who has time and motivation to mentor and some knowledge about moin2 is welcome as a mentor.
  35 2014-01-28T15:53:38  <ThomasWaldmann> that includes the usual suspects, but also past year students
  36 2014-01-28T15:55:56  <ThomasWaldmann> https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2014 see there
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  38 2014-01-28T16:18:51  <ananasova> moin
  39 2014-01-28T16:22:10  <ananasova> time flies so fast, in 6 days org applications start
  40 2014-01-28T16:28:20  <ThomasWaldmann> time flies like an arrow
  41 2014-01-28T16:28:27  <ThomasWaldmann> fruit flies like a banana
  42 2014-01-28T16:36:02  <ananasova> hm.. the project "Mail/Notification related functionality" according to its description below has only Mail part remaining, isn't it?
  43 2014-01-28T16:39:43  <ananasova> and by the way, all the projects are listed according to their priority?
  44 2014-01-28T16:53:47  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: that page is in a rather unfinished state
  45 2014-01-28T16:54:01  <ThomasWaldmann> as you know best what you did, just edit it :)
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  56 2014-01-28T19:04:58  <ajitesh_> ThomasWaldmann, What does the ' !r ' mean in something like 'abc "{0!r}" def'.format(xyz) ?
  57 2014-01-28T19:09:58  <derdon> ajitesh_: I'm not ThomasWaldmann but: it applies the repr function to the element. so "{0!r}".format(xyz) is like using "{0}".format(repr(xyz))
  58 2014-01-28T19:12:15  <ajitesh_> derdon, thanks :)
  59 2014-01-28T19:13:01  <derdon> np
  60 2014-01-28T19:35:38  * ThomasWaldmann has heard that python has docs :)
  61 2014-01-28T19:40:58  <waldi> really?
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