1 2013-10-26T04:19:30 *** RogerHaase
2 2013-10-26T04:20:54 *** RogerHaase
3 2013-10-26T08:16:01 *** xiaq
4 2013-10-26T09:57:32 *** xiaq
5 2013-10-26T09:57:56 *** xiaq
6 2013-10-26T14:35:23 *** RogerHaase
7 2013-10-26T15:05:12 *** Gnarlodious
8 2013-10-26T15:54:06 *** Gnarlodious
9 2013-10-26T18:27:30 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, as i am still the only one on https://moinmo.in/GoogleCodeIn2013, it looks like we won't participate this year. pity.
10 2013-10-26T18:58:36 <sharky93> moin
11 2013-10-26T19:01:46 * sharky93 was away for sometime
12 2013-10-26T19:04:01 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: is it decided, that we'll not be participating for GCI?
13 2013-10-26T19:04:11 * sharky93 would be happy to help! :)
14 2013-10-26T19:11:12 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: I added myself to the wiki page :)
15 2013-10-26T19:11:17 <sharky93> sunu: i think we could start preparing some tasks?
16 2013-10-26T19:12:51 <sunu> Sure. I have some time till end of this month. I can help in listing some tasks during that time.
17 2013-10-26T19:13:26 <sharky93> sunu: any idea where do we list the tasks?
18 2013-10-26T19:20:33 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: thanks
19 2013-10-26T19:20:53 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: problem is we are running out of time if we don't get going now
20 2013-10-26T19:21:19 <ThomasWaldmann> i can do some work today, tomorrow and monday, but not enough
21 2013-10-26T19:22:01 *** RogerHaase
22 2013-10-26T19:22:22 <ThomasWaldmann> i did some stuff on EasyToDo, a lot of the stuff there needs checking wether it is really still todo
23 2013-10-26T19:22:41 <ThomasWaldmann> if there is a link to issue tracker, it needs checking whether issue is still open
24 2013-10-26T19:23:35 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: EasyToDo page for now
25 2013-10-26T19:23:46 <ThomasWaldmann> best is if we have an entry in issue tracker
26 2013-10-26T19:24:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (but we can't just point to issue tracker for applying)
27 2013-10-26T19:25:15 <sunu> As far as I understand, we have make a separate page for each issue explaining it in detail too, no?
28 2013-10-26T19:25:25 <sunu> we have to*
29 2013-10-26T19:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: yes, but just start on EasyToDo main page for now.
30 2013-10-26T19:26:52 <ThomasWaldmann> i need to first check that the template is still uptodate
31 2013-10-26T19:34:45 <sunu> OK.
32 2013-10-26T19:35:04 <sunu> I'll work on that tomorrow.
33 2013-10-26T19:35:24 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks
34 2013-10-26T19:35:27 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: What's the deadline btw?
35 2013-10-26T19:35:55 <ThomasWaldmann> there will be 10 orgs only in total as it seems, so we need to have a good list to get accepted
36 2013-10-26T19:41:41 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: can we refer to the issue tracker for our own forks? the ones which we had used for SoC?
37 2013-10-26T19:41:54 <ThomasWaldmann> think so, yes
38 2013-10-26T19:42:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, we need a backup org admin
39 2013-10-26T19:42:30 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: dreimark: ^ can you do that?
40 2013-10-26T19:43:32 <xorAxAx> i can do that
41 2013-10-26T19:43:36 <xorAxAx> do i need to sign in somewhere?
42 2013-10-26T19:44:21 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe i need to give your melange id / google id when applying
43 2013-10-26T19:48:53 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: can you log in there? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
44 2013-10-26T19:50:46 <xorAxAx> heh, i clicked login and it didnt show me a form
45 2013-10-26T19:50:58 <xorAxAx> but logged me in with my google account. kind of scary
46 2013-10-26T19:51:07 <xorAxAx> (which is alex AT alexanderweb DOT de)
47 2013-10-26T19:56:41 * ThomasWaldmann filled out org admin form
48 2013-10-26T19:56:53 * ThomasWaldmann fills out org application form right now
49 2013-10-26T19:58:34 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, asks for backup admin id now.
50 2013-10-26T20:04:28 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: it didn't accept alex@...
51 2013-10-26T20:05:22 <xorAxAx> then i dont know how to come up with an idea
52 2013-10-26T20:05:26 <xorAxAx> ID
53 2013-10-26T20:05:27 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you need to create a user profile there first
54 2013-10-26T20:06:29 <ThomasWaldmann> (it ask for a username and says it is not a properly formed username)
55 2013-10-26T20:06:56 <xorAxAx> how to create one? i dont find the link
56 2013-10-26T20:08:13 <ThomasWaldmann> https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/profile/google/gci2013 maybe there?
57 2013-10-26T20:09:50 <xorAxAx> This page is inaccessible because you do not have a profile in the program at this time.
58 2013-10-26T20:10:28 <ThomasWaldmann> can you try all the links from the GoogleCodeIn2013 wiki page?
59 2013-10-26T20:10:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i can't try right now as I am logged in and have a 80% filled out form to submit still
60 2013-10-26T20:11:40 <xorAxAx> none of them works
61 2013-10-26T20:13:23 <ThomasWaldmann> hmpf
62 2013-10-26T20:24:03 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: i'm a bit unsure on what level of tasks we usually give for GCI, is there some page from previous years to look up?
63 2013-10-26T20:24:58 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: think of 13.00 .. 17.99 year old students
64 2013-10-26T20:25:23 <ThomasWaldmann> and you maybe can see the tasks still on the gci 2011 site
65 2013-10-26T20:30:03 <ananasova> moin
66 2013-10-26T20:32:50 <ThomasWaldmann> abilities of students are rather different. so we need quite easy tasks and also some more difficult. tasks should be solvable in some hours / some days (and we need to consider that there are often only 2 workhours per day available if students have school / homework)
67 2013-10-26T20:32:54 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: ^
68 2013-10-26T20:33:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: want to help also / have some time?
69 2013-10-26T20:34:03 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: found something meanwhile? i just followed one of these links or stuff linked from there and clicked around.
70 2013-10-26T20:34:22 <ThomasWaldmann> if you don't find it, please try #melange so i can complete the form without having to log out
71 2013-10-26T20:35:05 <ThomasWaldmann> (same problems every year :| )
72 2013-10-26T20:35:16 <ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: yep, want to help. now checking the EasyToDo page on moin
73 2013-10-26T20:35:38 <ThomasWaldmann> they didn't fix the "17 years old" problem either, so there will be questions again about this this year
74 2013-10-26T20:36:18 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: https://moinmo.in/GoogleCodeIn2013 add yourself there if you can help
75 2013-10-26T20:36:50 * ThomasWaldmann needs to answer "how did you prepare, who is mentoring?" question in the google form
76 2013-10-26T20:37:25 <ThomasWaldmann> mentoring is done as usual: collaboratively on IRC, but we likely also need to specify mentor ids in the tasks
77 2013-10-26T20:48:50 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: xoraxax2013
78 2013-10-26T20:51:32 * ananasova is wondering if it's a good idea to check the TODOs in the codebase
79 2013-10-26T20:51:33 <ThomasWaldmann> Data saved successfully.
80 2013-10-26T20:51:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: yeah, sure :)
81 2013-10-26T20:51:50 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: that one worked
82 2013-10-26T20:52:17 <ThomasWaldmann> so we have applied \o/
83 2013-10-26T20:52:44 * sharky93 browsing tasks for GCI 2011
84 2013-10-26T20:52:56 <sharky93> i.e @ http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2011/moinmoin
85 2013-10-26T20:54:28 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: if you go through there, can you remove stuff done from the EasyToDo list?
86 2013-10-26T20:55:28 <ThomasWaldmann> (somehow the requirement to have that page living a parallel life to the issue tracker sucks a bit)
87 2013-10-26T20:56:17 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: sure, i also remember having fixed some stuff from The EasyToDo before applying for SoC :D
88 2013-10-26T20:57:43 <ThomasWaldmann> at least the categories are same as last year, when we applied but did not get accepted
89 2013-10-26T20:58:23 <ThomasWaldmann> (only 10 orgs were accepted, same this year)
90 2013-10-26T20:59:16 <ThomasWaldmann> but having a list of easy tasks is a good idea anyway, even if we don't get in. sucks that bitbucket issue tracker has no tags.
91 2013-10-26T21:00:35 <ananasova> github has issue tags :D
92 2013-10-26T21:00:47 <sharky93> Google finally decides on our application by seeing the EasyToDo page?
93 2013-10-26T21:01:58 <sharky93> i mean what do they decide on, like there's the IdeasPage for GSoC ..
94 2013-10-26T21:05:45 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: yes, but github issue tracker sucks also. because they ONLY have tags, nothing else.
95 2013-10-26T21:10:11 <sharky93> http://moinmoin.spreadshirt.com/ -- /me had no idea about this :P .. GCI is fun ! :)
96 2013-10-26T21:10:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: it needs more work
97 2013-10-26T21:11:05 <ThomasWaldmann> there is also another one, but I've been too busy with other stuff...
98 2013-10-26T21:21:32 *** RogerHaase
99 2013-10-26T21:32:50 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: what was the feedback like for last year, when we did not get through?
100 2013-10-26T21:36:42 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if a lot of orgs apply and only 10 get in...
101 2013-10-26T21:36:51 <ThomasWaldmann> there was no specific feedback
102 2013-10-26T21:37:14 <ThomasWaldmann> but likely other orgs were more important or had a better tasks page
103 2013-10-26T21:37:48 <sharky93> hmm, our tasks page is the EasyToDo page?
104 2013-10-26T21:38:05 <ThomasWaldmann> but we were one of the few orgs that participated in ghop (which was the very first "gci"), so there is nothing against moinmoin under a few in principle.
105 2013-10-26T21:38:10 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
106 2013-10-26T21:46:44 * sharky93 now has some idea about what kind of tasks are expected
107 2013-10-26T21:47:17 * sharky93 will add/remove after some sleep :)
108 2013-10-26T21:50:02 <ananasova> simple task to restrict the width and height of textarea - https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/268/textarea-resizing-control
109 2013-10-26T21:50:29 *** RogerHaase
110 2013-10-26T21:55:19 <sharky93> ananasova: maybe add that to the EasyToDo :)
111 2013-10-26T21:57:04 <ananasova> waiting for some feedback if it's worth adding :)
112 2013-10-26T22:00:00 * sharky93 says gn
113 2013-10-26T22:01:01 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: bootstrap theme (not merged yet) might have that by default
114 2013-10-26T22:02:07 <ananasova> talked to sharky93 and he said there's none so far
115 2013-10-26T22:14:38 <ananasova> probably continue tomorrow
116 2013-10-26T22:14:42 * ananasova is going to bed
117 2013-10-26T22:14:58 * ananasova says good night :)
118 2013-10-26T22:42:32 <ThomasWaldmann> gn ananasova
119 2013-10-26T22:53:54 *** sudo_dirk
120 2013-10-26T22:54:06 *** sudo_dirk_
121 2013-10-26T23:20:27 *** Gnarlodious
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