1 2013-10-02T00:22:57 *** brunomartin
2 2013-10-02T08:15:21 <johill> ok the deadlock seems to be in the flup threadpool
3 2013-10-02T08:15:59 <johill> that hasn't changed, so I'm not sure why it would happen now
4 2013-10-02T08:16:48 <johill> it seems possible that it happens when a forked process crashes in python and doesn't sys._exit() correctly, thus causing problems with thread/fork in one thing, maybe the fork is releasing a lock that the parent held or something
5 2013-10-02T08:18:15 <johill> I'm making my fork code (in the latex formatter) safer, let's see if that fixes it
6 2013-10-02T08:18:24 <johill> probably should just use Popen
7 2013-10-02T08:56:29 *** greg_f
8 2013-10-02T09:01:02 <ananasova> moin
9 2013-10-02T11:22:47 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
10 2013-10-02T11:34:08 *** Guest46732
11 2013-10-02T14:02:05 *** brunomartin
12 2013-10-02T14:31:06 *** greg__
13 2013-10-02T14:33:18 *** greg_f
14 2013-10-02T14:56:50 *** RogerHaase
15 2013-10-02T15:17:35 *** dave_largo
16 2013-10-02T15:37:18 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: issue opened on pdfminer: https://github.com/euske/pdfminer/issues/27
17 2013-10-02T15:40:26 <johill> so a few hours later moin is still running
18 2013-10-02T15:40:37 <johill> I guess that settles it, my own fork() problem at fault ...
19 2013-10-02T15:40:53 <johill> if it survives the night too (peak activity in the US) I'll be fully confident
20 2013-10-02T15:40:58 <johill> sorry about the noise
21 2013-10-02T15:54:17 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yeah, thanks, have already seen it
22 2013-10-02T15:54:24 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: so I should push the changeset to fix setup.py? And make a second changeset to delete xstatic-json-js? And while we deleting stuff from setup.py, we could also delete Static-svgweb because svgweb never worked right with any version of jquery, see https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/265/svgweb-fails-on-ie7-and-ie8, and then https://codereview.appspot.com/8660044/ moved svg images from <object> to <img>
23 2013-10-02T15:55:06 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: no problem, great it works now
24 2013-10-02T15:55:40 *** dave_largo
25 2013-10-02T15:55:42 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: workaround for setup.py / pdfminer, yes. please link to issue in commit.
26 2013-10-02T15:56:13 <ThomasWaldmann> json-js - for me it can get killed, don't see a reason to keep it.
27 2013-10-02T15:57:21 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, bitbucket slow....
28 2013-10-02T16:03:13 <ThomasWaldmann> IE7 stuff: we can drop it all, that is pre-windows-7 and not interesting any more in near future (xp support end 4/2014, vista is crap anyway)
29 2013-10-02T16:03:29 <ThomasWaldmann> IE8 was default on windows 7
30 2013-10-02T16:04:49 <ThomasWaldmann> does someone know what happened afterwards, iirc microsoft wanted to push some newer IE onto windows 7 as security update - did it happen, for everybody?
31 2013-10-02T16:06:33 <RogerHaase> yes, ie8 was distributed with w7, ie9 and ie10 came out as recommended updates iirc, neither installed automatically
32 2013-10-02T16:07:19 <RogerHaase> but here you already decided not to consider ie8: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2013-04-11?highlight=%28ie8%29#CA-49a550fea90742b542af8d7dc5db5ee09c4d5ea5_185
33 2013-10-02T16:08:18 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, maybe we should document that so we remember better :D
34 2013-10-02T16:08:18 <johill> ThomasWaldmann: fwiw, we have IE 8 on Win7
35 2013-10-02T16:08:32 <johill> and I'd hope our IT keeps it updated :)
36 2013-10-02T16:08:54 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: well, then they seem not to install the recommended ie9/10 update
37 2013-10-02T16:09:07 <johill> yeah but that probably means MS still supports ie8
38 2013-10-02T16:09:25 <ThomasWaldmann> for their definition of support, yes :D
39 2013-10-02T16:09:29 <johill> :P
40 2013-10-02T16:10:04 <RogerHaase> johill: my sympathy, ie10 is much faster and better in many ways, corporate standard?
41 2013-10-02T16:11:43 <johill> yeah, I don't really use it though
42 2013-10-02T16:11:51 <johill> I mostly use Chrome, with IE tab for the few sites that really need it
43 2013-10-02T16:12:49 <johill> looks like I can get ie10 though
44 2013-10-02T16:13:13 <johill> let's see if that works
45 2013-10-02T16:13:50 <johill> apparently not, heh
46 2013-10-02T16:30:42 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: btw, see http://nsupdate.info about what helped with last weekend. do you get dynamic ips for your internet access?
47 2013-10-02T16:34:16 <ThomasWaldmann> ...about what *I* helped with... ;)
48 2013-10-02T16:34:33 <RogerHaase> no, I use Webfaction for my site. I get internet service from my local cable company. Cable companies in U.S. usually block ports to prevent end users from running any type of servers.
49 2013-10-02T16:35:07 <ThomasWaldmann> ugh, all the ports?
50 2013-10-02T16:35:27 * ThomasWaldmann uses ssh access to home and company rather often
51 2013-10-02T16:44:30 <RogerHaase> my IP address stays the same for months, maybe years. The cable company provides the worlds most power hungry modem that provides both phone and internet off the cable, there is another device (or TV) connected to the cable for TV.
52 2013-10-02T17:01:55 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, i know that kind of modem :) just got rid of one and replaced it with a fritzbox 6360.
53 2013-10-02T17:20:54 *** greg__
54 2013-10-02T17:37:13 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/14274045/
55 2013-10-02T17:41:06 <ThomasWaldmann> review done
56 2013-10-02T17:45:28 *** TheSheep_
57 2013-10-02T20:13:50 *** brunomartin
58 2013-10-02T21:31:55 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: oops, found module names in wikiconfig.py: https://codereview.appspot.com/14274045/
59 2013-10-02T21:47:40 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: looks good, see comment
60 2013-10-02T21:48:00 <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: there?
61 2013-10-02T22:29:57 *** RogerHaase
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