1 2013-05-02T00:11:45 <ThomasWaldmann> gn
2 2013-05-02T00:19:02 *** vivekagr
3 2013-05-02T00:19:06 *** sharpety12
4 2013-05-02T01:57:49 *** spinningarrow
5 2013-05-02T01:58:04 *** spinningarrow
6 2013-05-02T01:58:17 *** spinningarrow
7 2013-05-02T03:53:01 *** dwcramer
8 2013-05-02T04:39:31 *** rubocoptero
9 2013-05-02T04:41:02 *** dwcramer
10 2013-05-02T05:01:48 *** birkenfeld
11 2013-05-02T05:01:48 *** birkenfeld
12 2013-05-02T05:31:54 *** dwcramer
13 2013-05-02T05:36:54 <sharky93> submitted proposal on melange.
14 2013-05-02T05:38:00 <sharky93> it would be great if mentors could have a look, i'll be travelling around 3 PM (UTC) today, and will not be able to make further edits.
15 2013-05-02T05:54:33 <sharky93> Applicant Name - Rishabh Raj.
16 2013-05-02T06:29:13 *** rubocoptero
17 2013-05-02T06:57:43 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i spotted 5 cases where over 10 names follow "from ... import": http://bpaste.net/show/8SprniVrtO2d2d9AOyei/. seems only storage/middleware/indexing.py is better off with "from ... import *"
18 2013-05-02T07:10:11 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: PR: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/pull-request/163/import-and-more-constants
19 2013-05-02T07:23:16 <xiaq> sunu: hi sunu! following the suggestion of ThomasWaldmann this year i'm going to concentrate on the ticket list and ticket UI functionality first. what's your plan? it will be very nice to have the commenting system finished which is useful for ticket system as well :)
20 2013-05-02T07:31:19 <spy__> xiaq: Hi xiaq! Is sunu currently working on comments? I would like to apply this work as part of my application. Now I collect everything that is related to it.
21 2013-05-02T07:40:32 <xiaq> spy__: oops, that was intended for you :)
22 2013-05-02T07:40:56 <xiaq> sunu: got it wrong, sorry :-|
23 2013-05-02T08:35:36 *** ronny
24 2013-05-02T08:53:40 *** ashutosh1461
25 2013-05-02T08:53:47 <ashutosh1461> moin
26 2013-05-02T09:05:24 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, can you help me here, http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-itemid
27 2013-05-02T09:10:07 *** vivekagr
28 2013-05-02T10:09:53 <vivekagr> http://test.moinmo.in/ - getting 'Internal Server Error'
29 2013-05-02T11:22:58 *** spinningarrow
30 2013-05-02T11:30:16 *** ronny
31 2013-05-02T11:39:31 *** ana-balica
32 2013-05-02T11:40:31 <ana-balica> that internal server error is for a long time there :)
33 2013-05-02T11:56:18 *** vivekagr_
34 2013-05-02T11:56:21 *** vivekagr
35 2013-05-02T11:56:21 *** vivekagr_
36 2013-05-02T11:58:10 <sunu> xiaq: No problem :) I'm applying to work on pastebin btw and that could use the comment system as well.
37 2013-05-02T12:22:28 <sharky93> got to get travelling now :)
38 2013-05-02T12:22:39 * sharky93 submitted proposal on melange
39 2013-05-02T12:22:53 <sunu> sharky93: going home ?
40 2013-05-02T12:22:56 <sharky93> yup
41 2013-05-02T12:23:20 <sunu> great :) there's no place nicer than home :D
42 2013-05-02T12:23:35 <sharky93> +1
43 2013-05-02T12:23:42 <sharky93> bye !
44 2013-05-02T12:23:58 <sharky93> :)
45 2013-05-02T12:24:23 *** sharky93
46 2013-05-02T12:25:24 *** chitrank
47 2013-05-02T12:26:47 <chitrank> hello moin dev
48 2013-05-02T12:38:58 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: did `hg push -f` and created another PR https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/pull-request/165/import-and-more-constants/
49 2013-05-02T12:39:10 <xiaq> chitrank: hi! can i help you?
50 2013-05-02T12:48:17 *** dave_largo
51 2013-05-02T12:56:55 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: -f? why?
52 2013-05-02T13:04:06 <chitrank> yes xiaq I was to say that at moin2 page
53 2013-05-02T13:04:53 <chitrank> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 "Minefield: http://test.moinmo.in/" this minefield link is not working and producing error page 500
54 2013-05-02T13:06:44 <ashutosh1461> chitrank, the server is down purposely.
55 2013-05-02T13:06:56 <chitrank> okay
56 2013-05-02T13:09:16 <chitrank> Thomas Waldmann: for py.test for python3 effort in Python 3.x porting making them plan after some modules like xstatic , emeraldtree would be better so we need to make test each time we port any module and its working in moin2
57 2013-05-02T13:09:53 <chitrank> or the test should be conducted at the end when the work is substantially completed like 4-5 module along with some good functionality
58 2013-05-02T13:10:35 <ThomasWaldmann> well, not quite "purposely" but it is known
59 2013-05-02T13:11:48 <ThomasWaldmann> chitrank: you have to use automated tests all the time
60 2013-05-02T13:12:09 <dreimark> and before each commit
61 2013-05-02T13:12:44 * dreimark is still busy at the moment, I guess next monday after surviving the pythoncamp I have more time
62 2013-05-02T13:12:46 <chitrank> ThomasWaldmann: okay so after each time a port a module I should test it, I am updating the application planning for that
63 2013-05-02T13:13:08 <dreimark> chitrank: you first port the test
64 2013-05-02T13:13:18 <dreimark> then verify the test remains correct
65 2013-05-02T13:13:41 <dreimark> then the module has to become ported
66 2013-05-02T13:13:46 <dreimark> and verified with the test
67 2013-05-02T13:14:05 <ThomasWaldmann> yup
68 2013-05-02T13:14:16 <dreimark> if there are tests missing you may want to add them
69 2013-05-02T13:20:16 <ThomasWaldmann> right, good coverage is important before porting
70 2013-05-02T13:20:58 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, replied to some of your comments, http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-itemid
71 2013-05-02T13:22:47 *** spinningarrow
72 2013-05-02T13:29:45 *** spinningarrow
73 2013-05-02T13:40:41 *** elex
74 2013-05-02T13:41:06 <elex> sorry the first reply was more as a user :P
75 2013-05-02T13:41:33 <elex> a noobish user
76 2013-05-02T13:44:14 *** Guest89221
77 2013-05-02T13:46:50 * ThomasWaldmann added some acls
78 2013-05-02T13:47:18 <ThomasWaldmann> elex: use that subpage i created for you and move your content there, except the public/generic content
79 2013-05-02T13:47:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: not much time right now, gtg soon
80 2013-05-02T14:15:14 *** vivekagr
81 2013-05-02T14:36:58 *** ana-balica
82 2013-05-02T14:47:05 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: small mistake in a changeset. i thought i could get away with -f :)
83 2013-05-02T14:49:50 <xiaq> also, made small tweaks to "deliverables" of my application http://moinmo.in/CheerXiao/Soc2013Application
84 2013-05-02T15:06:23 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: Made a few changes to my application https://moinmo.in/TarashishMishra/GSOC-2013
85 2013-05-02T15:17:39 *** ana-balica
86 2013-05-02T15:21:45 *** ana-balica
87 2013-05-02T15:40:17 *** ana_ananasova
88 2013-05-02T15:43:23 *** ana-balica
89 2013-05-02T15:51:43 *** ana-balica
90 2013-05-02T15:52:23 *** ana-balica
91 2013-05-02T15:53:24 *** ana-balica
92 2013-05-02T16:29:28 *** Guest89221
93 2013-05-02T16:31:26 <chitrank> ThomasWaldmann: I want to know more about Change API and UI for itemids/revids
94 2013-05-02T16:32:24 <chitrank> on the initial ideas page it is specified that using itemids/ revids would be better over using NAMES for identifying an item.
95 2013-05-02T16:33:03 <chitrank> So basically the project deals with only the naming and calling the items with the new naming called itemids/revids
96 2013-05-02T16:38:48 *** moin3
97 2013-05-02T16:39:06 <moin3> how to change page's name?
98 2013-05-02T16:41:24 <ashutosh1461> moin3 use the rename option, +rename/pagename
99 2013-05-02T16:47:43 <moin3> not working ... suppose my link is http://moinmo.in/example and i have to change example with my name "Mark"
100 2013-05-02T16:51:30 <ashutosh1461> moin3, on moin1.9 maybe you can go to rename page in <More Actions> in the Action toolbar.
101 2013-05-02T17:00:28 <moin3> Thank you so much !
102 2013-05-02T17:10:54 *** elex
103 2013-05-02T17:28:44 *** moin3
104 2013-05-02T17:32:47 *** spinningarrow
105 2013-05-02T17:32:51 *** rahulx
106 2013-05-02T17:38:16 *** spinningarrow
107 2013-05-02T17:44:53 <spy__> ThomasWaldmann: hi! could you please add appropriate ACL to my application page: http://moinmo.in/PavelSviderski/GSOC-2013-Application
108 2013-05-02T18:07:54 <ThomasWaldmann> spy__: done
109 2013-05-02T18:12:18 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, what about the idea of creating an item on the basis on itemid(specify the itemid in the url, and item name later in the JSON meta) ? I tried on a test case, it works out well.
110 2013-05-02T18:16:34 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: if one does not need a name at first, can make sense. e.g. for pastebin or similar stuff.
111 2013-05-02T18:23:19 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, ok. also, about the namepsace thing, why do we need the namespace to be a list ?
112 2013-05-02T18:24:26 <chitrank> ThomasWaldmann: I want to know more about Change API and UI for itemids/revids on the initial ideas page it is specified that using itemids/revids would be better over using NAMES for identifying an item. So basically the project deals with only the naming and calling the items with the new naming called itemids/revids
113 2013-05-02T18:31:35 <ana_ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: made a small enhancement. please review when you feel free -> https://codereview.appspot.com/9133043/
114 2013-05-02T18:45:41 <ThomasWaldmann> chitrank: basically you can "address" items or revision via any unique identifier
115 2013-05-02T18:45:58 <ThomasWaldmann> at some places, that even makes sense :D
116 2013-05-02T18:50:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ana_ananasova: done
117 2013-05-02T18:55:49 * ThomasWaldmann brb
118 2013-05-02T18:57:42 *** brunomartin
119 2013-05-02T19:00:49 *** rahulx
120 2013-05-02T19:00:52 <chitrank> ThomasWaldmann: so making a unique identifier involves customizing and testing throughout that is why this has been made a GSOC project. I am writing proposal for this Idea so need some point of choosing this project
121 2013-05-02T19:25:58 <ana_ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: left a comment on the issue
122 2013-05-02T19:32:29 *** ronny_
123 2013-05-02T19:33:18 *** spinningarrow
124 2013-05-02T19:35:52 *** ronny
125 2013-05-02T19:37:45 *** spinningarrow
126 2013-05-02T20:07:10 <ThomasWaldmann> chitrank: that stuff needs changes at many places. maybe it's a little late trying to make a proposal if you didn't look at it yet.
127 2013-05-02T20:08:22 *** brunomartin
128 2013-05-02T20:09:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ana_ananasova: sounds ok :)
129 2013-05-02T20:10:07 <ana_ananasova> :)
130 2013-05-02T20:11:13 <ThomasWaldmann> give me some minutes to try it
131 2013-05-02T20:11:27 <ana_ananasova> should i make a pull request?
132 2013-05-02T20:11:35 <ana_ananasova> ohh, ok :)
133 2013-05-02T20:13:27 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, about improving namespaces, so what is required ?
134 2013-05-02T20:18:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ana_ananasova: yes, please. good change! :)
135 2013-05-02T20:19:11 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: did you try moin2? seen anything with namespaces?
136 2013-05-02T20:21:11 *** brunomartin
137 2013-05-02T20:23:32 <ana_ananasova> i ran the tests and everything looks ok.
138 2013-05-02T20:23:34 <ashutosh1461> yes, i had a look at the storage backend and the mapping functions, know how it works, but what's with the improvement?
139 2013-05-02T20:25:30 <ashutosh1461> what else? after the idea of namespace being a list being rejected.
140 2013-05-02T20:26:31 <ashutosh1461> also review https://codereview.appspot.com/8709049/
141 2013-05-02T20:31:07 *** chitrank
142 2013-05-02T20:35:03 <ThomasWaldmann> ana_ananasova: we don't have much testing for js...
143 2013-05-02T20:35:24 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: there is no UI at all yet for namespaces
144 2013-05-02T20:37:04 <ThomasWaldmann> also, there is likely some "big picture" needed still, currently it's rather some bits and pieces
145 2013-05-02T20:41:20 <ana_ananasova> gnight everybody! good luck with the last hours of applications
146 2013-05-02T20:42:10 <spy__> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: please review http://moinmo.in/PavelSviderski/GSOC-2013-Application
147 2013-05-02T20:44:36 *** ana_ananasova
148 2013-05-02T20:46:44 * dreimark wonders if noone knows that we have also ssl
149 2013-05-02T20:47:45 <dreimark> spy__: estimate hours fore experience
150 2013-05-02T20:57:37 <dreimark> spy__: do you plan also some non linear comments, like in a thread?
151 2013-05-02T21:00:21 <spy__> dreimark: sure, there is a header "Threaded comments" there as well
152 2013-05-02T21:00:56 <spy__> dreimark: oh, ssl, cool!
153 2013-05-02T21:01:03 <dreimark> hmm, navigation? collapsed tree like
154 2013-05-02T21:05:06 <dreimark> spy__: how do you solve subscriptions of comments
155 2013-05-02T21:09:55 * ThomasWaldmann did a minor moin 1.9 change
156 2013-05-02T21:11:09 <dreimark> ah, good, makes it a bit easier
157 2013-05-02T21:14:08 <dreimark> hmm this archive function of trello is interesting too
158 2013-05-02T21:14:12 <dreimark> http://help.trello.com/customer/portal/articles/935742-archiving-and-deleting-cards
159 2013-05-02T21:16:08 <dreimark> spy__: http://help.trello.com/customer/portal/articles/891977-commenting-on-cards
160 2013-05-02T21:16:32 <dreimark> You can mention people in comments by using "@" followed by the user's name. The mentioned user will get a notification.
161 2013-05-02T21:22:17 *** dave_largo
162 2013-05-02T21:22:53 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/RahulSagore/GSOC-2013-Application needs some acls
163 2013-05-02T21:27:54 <ThomasWaldmann> done
164 2013-05-02T21:30:07 *** ashutosh1461
165 2013-05-02T21:44:19 <dreimark> gn
166 2013-05-02T21:44:22 <spy__> dreimark: users subscribed to the page will also receive notifications on comments
167 2013-05-02T21:44:52 <spy__> gn
168 2013-05-02T22:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> spy__: see your proposal wiki page
169 2013-05-02T22:26:46 <ThomasWaldmann> (subscribe to it)
170 2013-05-02T22:47:58 *** spinningarrow
171 2013-05-02T23:06:24 *** xiaq
172 2013-05-02T23:12:36 *** xiaq
173 2013-05-02T23:13:01 *** xiaq
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