1 2013-04-18T00:28:22 *** dwcramer
2 2013-04-18T00:32:12 *** brunomartin
3 2013-04-18T00:33:18 *** desophos
4 2013-04-18T00:59:05 *** sharky93
5 2013-04-18T01:56:53 *** desophos
6 2013-04-18T02:51:09 *** dwcramer
7 2013-04-18T02:52:53 *** dwcramer
8 2013-04-18T03:36:05 *** puneet
9 2013-04-18T03:36:54 *** puneet
10 2013-04-18T03:44:59 *** puneet
11 2013-04-18T04:05:40 *** desophos
12 2013-04-18T04:23:03 *** desophos
13 2013-04-18T04:24:46 *** rihnapstor
14 2013-04-18T04:36:53 *** rihnapstor
15 2013-04-18T05:14:18 *** ronny
16 2013-04-18T05:23:00 <dreimark> moin
17 2013-04-18T05:23:16 * dreimark students please subscribe to your soc page
18 2013-04-18T05:43:18 <desophos> how do i protect my application subpage so that only mentors can see it?
19 2013-04-18T06:55:45 <xiaq> desophos: ask for an acl, dreimark and ThomasWaldmann should be able to do it
20 2013-04-18T07:13:24 *** dwcramer
21 2013-04-18T07:26:14 *** dwcramer
22 2013-04-18T08:07:08 <dreimark> d
23 2013-04-18T08:07:10 <dreimark> moin
24 2013-04-18T08:07:20 * dreimark tries
25 2013-04-18T08:08:41 <dreimark> desophos: make a Soc2013 Application subpage first, just load the DeveloperApplicationTemplate
26 2013-04-18T08:08:46 <dreimark> and store the page
27 2013-04-18T08:13:51 *** sharky93
28 2013-04-18T08:21:30 *** desophos
29 2013-04-18T08:38:36 *** vaishaks
30 2013-04-18T09:23:45 *** greg_f
31 2013-04-18T10:06:06 *** vaishaks
32 2013-04-18T12:16:57 *** vaishaks
33 2013-04-18T12:22:40 *** rihnapstor
34 2013-04-18T12:43:59 *** dave_largo
35 2013-04-18T12:49:25 *** rihnapstor
36 2013-04-18T13:01:32 *** rihnapstor
37 2013-04-18T13:10:37 *** Ganz7
38 2013-04-18T13:10:38 *** Ganz7
39 2013-04-18T14:03:30 *** ashutosh1461
40 2013-04-18T14:23:47 *** rihnapstor
41 2013-04-18T14:37:20 *** dwcramer
42 2013-04-18T14:46:35 *** brunomartin
43 2013-04-18T14:53:52 *** Ganz7
44 2013-04-18T15:03:00 *** rihnapstor
45 2013-04-18T15:37:11 *** ashutosh1461
46 2013-04-18T16:07:22 *** rihnapstor
47 2013-04-18T16:25:44 *** ashutosh1461
48 2013-04-18T16:45:20 <ashutosh1461> dreimark, can an two latest revisions of an item exist ?
49 2013-04-18T17:08:24 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, issue updated, https://codereview.appspot.com/8753043/
50 2013-04-18T17:14:25 *** desophos
51 2013-04-18T17:26:21 *** ashutosh1461
52 2013-04-18T17:26:51 <desophos> could someone please give me ACL protection on http://moinmo.in/DanielHorowitz/GSoC2013 ?
53 2013-04-18T17:41:57 *** greg_f
54 2013-04-18T17:44:00 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, as i suggested there is a bug with the query parser in moin2, {{python || &w=50, height=100}} results in a qs of 'w=50&height=100', to fix this, I think instead of separating the qs and the string that contains the key,value pairs from the beginning..\
55 2013-04-18T17:45:18 <sharky93> we can form the qs like '&w=50:&width=100', and in the final html_conv converter parse this qs to separate what has to go actually to the query and what to the tag attributes.
56 2013-04-18T17:45:33 <sharky93> where ':' is just used to separate the two.
57 2013-04-18T17:46:21 <sharky93> another solution could be simply not fixing the "&" before the key.
58 2013-04-18T17:48:34 <sharky93> or simply add a new variable with query, named as maybe "attributes" and differentiate them right from the beginning
59 2013-04-18T18:03:03 *** dnyarri
60 2013-04-18T18:13:18 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, what do you suggest, how should the qs be like in this case.
61 2013-04-18T18:26:29 *** ronny
62 2013-04-18T18:28:04 *** vj41
63 2013-04-18T18:36:46 *** rihnapstor
64 2013-04-18T18:39:42 <vj41> hello!
65 2013-04-18T18:40:30 <vj41> Ia m interested in the SOC project related to UI
66 2013-04-18T18:40:40 <vj41> and need to discuss it further...
67 2013-04-18T18:40:44 <vj41> Can anyone help?
68 2013-04-18T18:42:51 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann, why is the parser checking for a hyphen .. @ https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/src/7c00da767896c6cf52d94b1b1d936d480abe94b9/MoinMoin/converter/_args_wiki.py?at=default#cl-18
69 2013-04-18T18:43:53 *** vj41
70 2013-04-18T18:44:16 *** vj
71 2013-04-18T18:45:23 *** AndChat|119664
72 2013-04-18T18:48:26 *** ronny
73 2013-04-18T18:48:27 *** ronny
74 2013-04-18T19:08:30 *** sharky93
75 2013-04-18T19:26:19 *** ronny
76 2013-04-18T19:36:09 *** ronny
77 2013-04-18T19:49:39 <ThomasWaldmann> desophos: i'll add acls now
78 2013-04-18T19:52:27 <desophos> thanks ThomasWaldmann
79 2013-04-18T19:55:44 <ThomasWaldmann> vj14: see query
80 2013-04-18T20:27:15 *** rihnapstor
81 2013-04-18T20:46:48 *** dreimark2
82 2013-04-18T20:57:15 *** dreimark2
83 2013-04-18T21:16:14 * dreimark is still in the office - but work looks for now finished
84 2013-04-18T21:17:10 *** dave_largo
85 2013-04-18T21:19:51 *** varun2902
86 2013-04-18T21:19:58 <varun2902> Hi
87 2013-04-18T21:20:11 <dreimark> hi varun2902
88 2013-04-18T21:20:38 <varun2902> Hello ! alias moin1 :)
89 2013-04-18T21:21:25 <varun2902> So i have a proposal for Collab editor
90 2013-04-18T21:21:40 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: are you available?
91 2013-04-18T21:22:06 <varun2902> earlier worked same thing in node.js
92 2013-04-18T21:22:18 <dreimark> which license is it?
93 2013-04-18T21:23:25 <varun2902> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodejs
94 2013-04-18T21:23:28 <varun2902> MIT
95 2013-04-18T21:23:33 <varun2902> is it acceptable ?
96 2013-04-18T21:24:48 <dreimark> MIT is quite perfect
97 2013-04-18T21:24:56 <dreimark> very good compatible
98 2013-04-18T21:25:20 <varun2902> So i can work upon it. right ?
99 2013-04-18T21:25:24 <dreimark> yes
100 2013-04-18T21:25:53 <varun2902> So where should i post my idea ?
101 2013-04-18T21:25:58 <dreimark> have you experience with it ? Or what is your knowlege
102 2013-04-18T21:26:02 <dreimark> varun2902: wait,
103 2013-04-18T21:26:19 <dreimark> I would suggest to first create a homepage on moinmo.in
104 2013-04-18T21:26:36 <varun2902> i have worked on node.js and socket.io
105 2013-04-18T21:26:47 <dreimark> and fill out DeveloperApplicationTemplate by
106 2013-04-18T21:26:48 <dreimark> that
107 2013-04-18T21:27:06 *** desophos
108 2013-04-18T21:27:13 <dreimark> then create a subpage of your homepage e.g. YourName/soc2013
109 2013-04-18T21:27:17 <dreimark> varun2902: cool
110 2013-04-18T21:27:42 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can set then for YourName/soc2013 acls
111 2013-04-18T21:28:46 <varun2902> dreikmark: i'll create a page. but didn't get you on last line
112 2013-04-18T21:29:05 <dreimark> your homepage is FirstnameLastname
113 2013-04-18T21:29:17 <dreimark> after you have that make a page
114 2013-04-18T21:30:07 <varun2902> why did you refer ThomasWaldmann ??
115 2013-04-18T21:30:07 <dreimark> FirstnameLastname/GSOC2013
116 2013-04-18T21:30:27 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: will set acls on the page for you and mentors only
117 2013-04-18T21:30:42 <dreimark> so at first create a quite empty page
118 2013-04-18T21:30:54 <dreimark> and wait until he sets the protection
119 2013-04-18T21:31:18 <dreimark> if you create the homepage please select the DeveloperApplicationTemplate
120 2013-04-18T21:31:28 <dreimark> and provide the information requested there
121 2013-04-18T21:32:14 <varun2902> everything fine... sorry but what's that acls ?
122 2013-04-18T21:32:51 <dreimark> ah, sorry
123 2013-04-18T21:33:08 <dreimark> the wiki has access control lists
124 2013-04-18T21:33:31 <dreimark> so the admin can set rights wo is allowed to e.g. read write etc.
125 2013-04-18T21:33:43 <varun2902> Yeah !
126 2013-04-18T21:33:48 <dreimark> https://moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists
127 2013-04-18T21:33:59 <dreimark> a lot of docs there ^
128 2013-04-18T21:34:02 <varun2902> Thanks dreimark !
129 2013-04-18T21:36:07 * dreimark drives home
130 2013-04-18T21:36:24 <varun2902> any requirement for patches ??
131 2013-04-18T21:44:22 <varun2902> THERE ??
132 2013-04-18T21:55:06 <ThomasWaldmann> hi
133 2013-04-18T21:56:09 <ThomasWaldmann> varun2902: what do you mean by "any requirement for patches ??
134 2013-04-18T21:57:03 <varun2902> it meant that is it necessary to show pre-work before proposal?
135 2013-04-18T21:57:50 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
136 2013-04-18T21:58:05 <varun2902> ThomasWaldmann: i have a proposal for collab editor
137 2013-04-18T21:58:12 <ThomasWaldmann> you need to work with moin2, it's code and the tools
138 2013-04-18T21:58:36 <ThomasWaldmann> that's welcome if it fits the criteria outlined on the ideas page
139 2013-04-18T21:58:43 <varun2902> since i made a similar app in node.js earlier
140 2013-04-18T21:59:19 <ThomasWaldmann> there is ready-to-use stuff in node.js (mozilla towtruck, since recently)
141 2013-04-18T21:59:52 <ThomasWaldmann> but i personally don't like that much, we don't have much js devs to maintain such stuff
142 2013-04-18T22:00:40 <ThomasWaldmann> so it either needs to be a well-supported 3rd party thing under good license, or something with server side in py
143 2013-04-18T22:01:54 <varun2902> then may be django
144 2013-04-18T22:02:17 <varun2902> using socket.io for realtime collab
145 2013-04-18T22:03:18 <ThomasWaldmann> we don't use django
146 2013-04-18T22:03:50 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe have a look at moin before writing the application
147 2013-04-18T22:04:26 <varun2902> i'm not getting you exactly ?? waht exactly you want then
148 2013-04-18T22:04:51 <ThomasWaldmann> just think about what's necessary to get the whole system up and working
149 2013-04-18T22:05:43 <ThomasWaldmann> the more long-running processes one needs, the more serverside technologies are required, ... the more complex it gets
150 2013-04-18T22:07:07 <varun2902> sure, and if you want something precisely to be worked on please mention....because i'm much familiar with basic working behind collab editor
151 2013-04-18T22:07:57 <ThomasWaldmann> moin is a wsgi app
152 2013-04-18T22:10:03 <varun2902> that's why i refer to django before
153 2013-04-18T22:10:20 <varun2902> it's a nice framework
154 2013-04-18T22:10:36 <ThomasWaldmann> django is a big framework. we don't use it. we won't use it just for a collab editor.
155 2013-04-18T22:13:51 *** ashutosh1461
156 2013-04-18T22:14:07 <ThomasWaldmann> (and a soc project doesn't work like the org plans the project, you have to do that. we just give some ideas.)
157 2013-04-18T22:15:13 <ashutosh1461> moin ThomasWaldmann
158 2013-04-18T22:16:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hi ashutosh1461
159 2013-04-18T22:20:23 <ashutosh1461> regarding your comment, is there a need to analyze the name too?
160 2013-04-18T22:21:02 <ashutosh1461> the current lookup is based upon searching the exact name field.
161 2013-04-18T22:24:18 <ThomasWaldmann> i am only referring to name-related stuff (not name_exact)
162 2013-04-18T22:25:49 <varun2902> I'll consider your points ThomasWaldmann
163 2013-04-18T22:26:26 <varun2902> Will contact you tomorrow with deep insight in moin :)
164 2013-04-18T22:26:28 <ThomasWaldmann> just play a bit with it :) have a look at code, docs, etc.
165 2013-04-18T22:26:53 <ashutosh1461> yes, suppose the user wants to lookup and he enters name = 'FooBar', so do we want the name to be analyzed as well ? Currently it would match the item having names FooBar123, FooBarBaz ..
166 2013-04-18T22:27:26 <varun2902> ThomasWaldmann: Yeah ! i'll
167 2013-04-18T22:29:42 *** desophos
168 2013-04-18T22:30:07 *** varun2902
169 2013-04-18T22:30:23 <ashutosh1461> if the name is analyzed ie [foo, bar, foobar] it would match Foo123 as well but currently it does not.
170 2013-04-18T22:45:03 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, ^^
171 2013-04-18T22:49:42 <ThomasWaldmann> the normal search query parsing uses the analyzer for the query. that's the multi... stuff you have modified
172 2013-04-18T22:51:34 *** ronny
173 2013-04-18T22:55:03 <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: ^
174 2013-04-18T22:55:08 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, what i am trying to say is that does the input name (the name we enter in the lookup form) gets analyzed when we do the search query ?
175 2013-04-18T22:55:47 <ThomasWaldmann> well, we could do it same way as for search queries
176 2013-04-18T22:55:51 <ashutosh1461> i mean will searching for FooBar would give a hit for page named Bar123 ?
177 2013-04-18T22:56:29 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure if it is "or", maybe "and" rather
178 2013-04-18T22:56:30 <ashutosh1461> umm .. fine.
179 2013-04-18T23:00:20 <ThomasWaldmann> (an alternative would be to drop name lookup and just to name_exact)
180 2013-04-18T23:00:42 <ThomasWaldmann> lookup view was intended as a rather simple, direct thing somehow
181 2013-04-18T23:01:05 <ThomasWaldmann> s/to/do/
182 2013-04-18T23:02:07 * ThomasWaldmann needs to go to bed, need to get up early tomorrow. gn.
183 2013-04-18T23:15:25 * ashutosh1461 says bye :)
184 2013-04-18T23:15:26 *** ashutosh1461
185 2013-04-18T23:29:59 *** AndChat|119664
186 2013-04-18T23:30:22 *** AndChat|119664
187 2013-04-18T23:31:37 *** AndChat|119664
188 2013-04-18T23:34:15 *** sharky93
189 2013-04-18T23:48:28 *** sharky93
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