MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2013-02-01

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  10 2013-02-01T05:06:58  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: do you have an open source license of PyCharm, or did you buy a personal one?
  11 2013-02-01T05:09:31  <xiaq> umm, the product seems identical whichever license you buy/apply. must be an open source license then
  12 2013-02-01T05:11:54  <xiaq> dreimark: rope doesn't seem to have much refctoring feature beyond renames. i was expecting a pattern substitution tool that operates on the AST
  13 2013-02-01T05:14:14  <xiaq> criteria for PyCharm open source license reads, "You are the project lead or a committer". that's too strict :(
  14 2013-02-01T10:02:43  <dreimark> xiaq: last year they had a special rate, 25$ for the license
  15 2013-02-01T10:03:13  <dreimark> it was on the famous day some people believed end of time
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  17 2013-02-01T11:05:49  <xiaq> dreimark: ah :)
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  22 2013-02-01T12:02:47  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: i have bought the commercial version (with 75% rebate) as i wanted to be free in for what i am using it for
  23 2013-02-01T12:08:25  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: ah, ok :)
  24 2013-02-01T12:14:04  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, often jetbrains gives it away for cheaper at python conferences also. iirc one gets some code or contact there to do so then.
  25 2013-02-01T12:14:42  * ThomasWaldmann will be at europython in the summer, so remind me if still interested.
  26 2013-02-01T12:15:15  <ThomasWaldmann> otoh, if you search something for cheaper/free, did you look at eclipse/pydev?
  27 2013-02-01T12:18:54  <ThomasWaldmann> "committer" is somehow a bad term to use when also addressing projects that use DVCS
  28 2013-02-01T12:19:30  <ThomasWaldmann> almost every contributor is a committer there :D
  29 2013-02-01T12:20:41  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: ^
  30 2013-02-01T12:41:58  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: aha :)
  31 2013-02-01T12:42:14  <xiaq> i tried eclipse several times, never able to bear the startup time...
  32 2013-02-01T12:42:51  <xiaq> also, vi keybinding is another major blocker...
  33 2013-02-01T12:42:57  <ThomasWaldmann> well, pycharm is also in java...
  34 2013-02-01T12:43:29  <ThomasWaldmann> eating your memoryz and cpuz
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  36 2013-02-01T13:00:55  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: oh... but i guess a python-dedicated ide would be somehow lighter?
  37 2013-02-01T13:02:54  <ThomasWaldmann> jetbrains does a lot of java and other stuff and i think they reuse some of their (java) code for all IDEs they offer
  38 2013-02-01T13:03:41  * ThomasWaldmann has 2x1.2ghz, 4gb ram, ssd here and while it starts a bit slowly, it is well usable afterwards
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  41 2013-02-01T15:19:22  * xiaq failed 2 exams last semester :(
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  43 2013-02-01T15:32:23  <ThomasWaldmann> happens
  44 2013-02-01T15:33:16  <dreimark> sh*t
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  46 2013-02-01T15:50:16  <sunu> moin
  47 2013-02-01T15:51:46  <sunu> semester exams over :) So I'm back :D
  48 2013-02-01T15:55:04  <sunu> xiaq: I failed 2 exams last semester too :'(. Don't know why they put electronics papers in the course.:/
  49 2013-02-01T15:56:26  <ThomasWaldmann> wb sunu!
  50 2013-02-01T15:57:39  <sunu> Thanks ThomasWaldmann :)
  51 2013-02-01T16:03:51  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if someone has some spare time, there are a lot of issues in the issue tracker ;)
  52 2013-02-01T16:07:18  <sunu> I am setting up my environment now .. will be hunting issues soon :)
  53 2013-02-01T16:15:17  <ThomasWaldmann> you likely need a new/updated env, some stuff changed there
  54 2013-02-01T16:18:06  <sunu> yes .. making a new one.
  55 2013-02-01T16:19:47  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. passlib is new :)
  56 2013-02-01T16:32:30  <dreimark> wb sunu
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  58 2013-02-01T17:14:38  <dreimark> bbl
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  60 2013-02-01T18:05:03  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/7231078 for #305
  61 2013-02-01T18:08:48  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: will have a look soon! :)
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  65 2013-02-01T21:29:11  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: review done
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  68 2013-02-01T21:59:59  <dreimark> re
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