MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2013-01-03

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   6 2013-01-03T10:33:06  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
   7 2013-01-03T12:09:59  <sunu> moin
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   9 2013-01-03T12:18:17  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: about the collaborative editor how do you plan to do the realtime pushing on server side ? is there any good socketio like implementation for wsgi apps ?
  10 2013-01-03T13:19:00  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: i have no idea
  11 2013-01-03T13:19:56  <ThomasWaldmann> but a simple implementation could just do ajax-like requests
  12 2013-01-03T13:26:06  <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: browser to server communication will be ajax ofcourse but for server to browser push you need something similar to web sockets.
  13 2013-01-03T13:28:23  <sunu> Btw the editor you have mentioned on the issue uses nodejs on backend. is that currently an option ?
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  15 2013-01-03T13:39:17  <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: i am not familiar with nodejs
  16 2013-01-03T13:40:02  <ThomasWaldmann> but anything else than python/wsgi means additional work for deployment and maybe maintenance problems because we don't do javascript much
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  20 2013-01-03T15:18:55  <RogerHaase> stylus runs under nodejs, learning how to install nodejs under windows required several googles
  21 2013-01-03T15:53:32  <sunu> RogerHaase: ThomasWaldmann: if we need real time collaboration and we want wsgi, then perhaps we have to use tornado for the editor. socket.io and tornado.
  22 2013-01-03T16:10:53  <ThomasWaldmann> in some environments you can't choose the web server
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  26 2013-01-03T19:10:15  <dreimark> moin
  27 2013-01-03T19:10:18  <dreimark> HTML5 is now stable and "feature complete"
  28 2013-01-03T19:10:26  <dreimark> http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2013/01/html5-is-now-stable-and-feature-complete.html
  29 2013-01-03T19:58:35  <dreimark> RogerHaase: http://nodejs.org/download/
  30 2013-01-03T19:59:01  <dreimark> I have readed that it has a working native windows installer which also adds it to the search path
  31 2013-01-03T20:00:52  <dreimark> in german, needs g translate http://linux-doku.de/blog/nodejs-auf-windows-installieren-und-nutzen
  32 2013-01-03T20:04:28  <dreimark> http://sharejs.org/ sounds intersting
  33 2013-01-03T20:08:55  <dreimark> sunu: ^
  34 2013-01-03T20:13:48  <RogerHaase> dreimark:  thanks, I had the trouble when I first installed stylus, it wasn't clear to me that I had to install nodejs first and then install stylus under the windows command line shell rather than the nodejs shell
  35 2013-01-03T21:36:15  <dreimark> RogerHaase: ok, have you added this to some developer docs for moin?
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  37 2013-01-03T23:01:01  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that should be added to the nodejs docs, not to ours
  38 2013-01-03T23:01:15  <ThomasWaldmann> (if it is not there already)
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