1 2012-10-28T00:10:11 *** RogerHaase
2 2012-10-28T00:34:28 *** dcramer__
3 2012-10-28T02:38:47 *** spy
4 2012-10-28T03:02:29 *** MattMaker
5 2012-10-28T03:07:06 *** MattMaker
6 2012-10-28T05:05:59 *** dcramer__
7 2012-10-28T05:56:31 *** MattMaker
8 2012-10-28T07:03:29 *** xiaq
9 2012-10-28T07:03:37 *** MaikuMori
10 2012-10-28T07:03:37 *** dennda_
11 2012-10-28T07:03:39 *** waldi
12 2012-10-28T07:03:39 *** eSyr
13 2012-10-28T07:03:40 *** xorAxAx
14 2012-10-28T07:03:41 *** vpv
15 2012-10-28T07:03:41 *** eSyr-ng
16 2012-10-28T07:03:42 *** ThomasWaldmann
17 2012-10-28T07:03:45 *** spy_
18 2012-10-28T07:03:49 *** yufra
19 2012-10-28T07:03:49 *** bilal
20 2012-10-28T07:03:52 *** ChanServ
21 2012-10-28T07:03:54 *** breton
22 2012-10-28T07:03:54 *** jek
23 2012-10-28T07:03:58 *** xjjk
24 2012-10-28T07:03:58 *** dreimark
25 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** MattMaker
26 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** dennda_
27 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** ThomasWaldmann
28 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** eSyr-ng
29 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** MaikuMori
30 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** vpv
31 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** eSyr
32 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** waldi
33 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** spy_
34 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** bilal
35 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** yufra
36 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** xorAxAx
37 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** xiaq
38 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** jek
39 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** breton
40 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** xjjk
41 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** ChanServ
42 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** dreimark
43 2012-10-28T09:57:20 *** card.freenode.net
44 2012-10-28T10:09:07 *** breton
45 2012-10-28T10:09:07 *** jek
46 2012-10-28T10:09:10 *** xiaq
47 2012-10-28T10:09:19 *** MaikuMori
48 2012-10-28T10:09:19 *** dennda_
49 2012-10-28T10:09:21 *** waldi
50 2012-10-28T10:09:21 *** eSyr
51 2012-10-28T10:09:23 *** xorAxAx
52 2012-10-28T10:09:24 *** vpv
53 2012-10-28T10:09:24 *** eSyr-ng
54 2012-10-28T10:09:25 *** ThomasWaldmann
55 2012-10-28T10:09:29 *** spy_
56 2012-10-28T10:09:34 *** yufra
57 2012-10-28T10:09:34 *** bilal
58 2012-10-28T10:09:40 *** ChanServ
59 2012-10-28T10:09:43 *** xjjk
60 2012-10-28T10:09:43 *** dreimark
61 2012-10-28T10:09:43 *** MattMaker
62 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** MattMaker
63 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** dennda_
64 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** ThomasWaldmann
65 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** eSyr-ng
66 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** MaikuMori
67 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** vpv
68 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** eSyr
69 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** waldi
70 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** spy_
71 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** bilal
72 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** yufra
73 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** xorAxAx
74 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** xiaq
75 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** jek
76 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** breton
77 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** dreimark
78 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** ChanServ
79 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** xjjk
80 2012-10-28T10:11:53 *** card.freenode.net
81 2012-10-28T10:14:54 *** MattMaker
82 2012-10-28T10:15:38 *** Trip_
83 2012-10-28T10:35:02 *** xiaq
84 2012-10-28T10:35:11 *** MaikuMori
85 2012-10-28T10:35:12 *** dennda_
86 2012-10-28T10:35:13 *** waldi
87 2012-10-28T10:35:13 *** eSyr
88 2012-10-28T10:35:14 *** xorAxAx
89 2012-10-28T10:35:15 *** vpv
90 2012-10-28T10:35:15 *** eSyr-ng
91 2012-10-28T10:35:17 *** ThomasWaldmann
92 2012-10-28T10:35:17 *** Trip_
93 2012-10-28T10:35:20 *** spy_
94 2012-10-28T10:35:24 *** yufra
95 2012-10-28T10:35:25 *** bilal
96 2012-10-28T10:39:14 *** Trip_
97 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** xiaq
98 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** xorAxAx
99 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** yufra
100 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** bilal
101 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** spy_
102 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** waldi
103 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** eSyr
104 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** vpv
105 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** MaikuMori
106 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** dennda_
107 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** ThomasWaldmann
108 2012-10-28T10:39:15 *** eSyr-ng
109 2012-10-28T10:40:37 *** xjjk
110 2012-10-28T10:41:10 *** xjjk
111 2012-10-28T10:42:57 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
112 2012-10-28T10:46:00 *** breton
113 2012-10-28T10:46:00 *** jek
114 2012-10-28T10:56:47 *** breton
115 2012-10-28T10:56:47 *** jek
116 2012-10-28T11:43:11 <dreimark> moin
117 2012-10-28T11:43:31 <dreimark> wb ThomasWaldmann
118 2012-10-28T11:45:52 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, back at home :)
119 2012-10-28T11:53:54 <dreimark> looks like winterly in leipzig between -2 and +5 next week
120 2012-10-28T11:58:27 * ThomasWaldmann won't be there.
121 2012-10-28T12:05:11 <sunu> moin
122 2012-10-28T12:25:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hi sunu
123 2012-10-28T12:26:27 *** spy
124 2012-10-28T12:44:53 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: BB issue tracker has no means to mark an issue with tags :( or tell its difficulty. except just putting it into the issue title or text.
125 2012-10-28T12:49:25 *** spy_
126 2012-10-28T12:51:01 *** spy_
127 2012-10-28T12:54:26 <ThomasWaldmann> spy: xiaq: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo we have there some UI related tasks - could you make that more specific, so it gives some small tasks for GCI?
128 2012-10-28T13:14:14 <dreimark> @test:/tmp/Leipzig2012/moin-2-refactoring
129 2012-10-28T13:14:26 <dreimark> if someone wants to look through the slides
130 2012-10-28T13:15:26 <dreimark> unfortunately not everything I promised is finished yet
131 2012-10-28T13:15:37 <dreimark> but no problem to fill 30mins
132 2012-10-28T13:16:12 <dreimark> https://2012.de.pycon.org/programm/schedule/sessions/51/
133 2012-10-28T13:18:17 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: we could make from that http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin2-ui-tests some nice tasks
134 2012-10-28T13:19:07 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i have updated the moin2 talk for california baypiggies meeting, will upload it soon
135 2012-10-28T13:23:56 <dreimark> ok, good, I 'll be in town soon, currently sunshine - and cold
136 2012-10-28T13:32:06 * xiaq is willing to mentor GCI and added himself to http://moinmo.in/GCI2012
137 2012-10-28T13:32:41 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: was moin ever in GCI? 10 orgs seem too little...
138 2012-10-28T13:33:28 <xiaq> also, i cannot find GCI project records (like http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2012)
139 2012-10-28T13:33:55 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: we did it since the beginning, when it was called GHOP
140 2012-10-28T13:34:22 <ThomasWaldmann> of course that doesn't necessarily mean we'll be accepted for this year
141 2012-10-28T13:34:53 <ThomasWaldmann> but specifying easy tasks is a good idea anyway
142 2012-10-28T13:36:08 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: how did GCI came out (compared to GSoC)?
143 2012-10-28T13:36:50 <ThomasWaldmann> lots of small stuff was done (vs. few big tasks in SOC)
144 2012-10-28T13:37:51 <ThomasWaldmann> risk is comparatively low compared to GSOC, so it's a bit more relaxed for mentors and students
145 2012-10-28T13:38:34 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: ah. i wonder how was the students' python degrees?
146 2012-10-28T13:38:45 <xiaq> s/was/were/
147 2012-10-28T13:38:58 <ThomasWaldmann> and this year, there is no money involved (except for google paying for paper, tshirts and mountain view trips)
148 2012-10-28T13:39:34 <ThomasWaldmann> you mean their capabilities? different. :)
149 2012-10-28T13:39:53 <ThomasWaldmann> some quite good, some beginners. as expected.
150 2012-10-28T13:40:22 <ThomasWaldmann> but there are not just python tasks, as you see on EasyToDo page
151 2012-10-28T13:40:50 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: ah i see
152 2012-10-28T13:41:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you like and you have some time, help us preparing tasks and mentoring
153 2012-10-28T13:42:03 <ThomasWaldmann> you could split some of your TODO in little tasks :)
154 2012-10-28T13:42:46 <xiaq> btw not related, but reward of gsoc is higher than an average programmer's salary in 3 months in China...
155 2012-10-28T13:43:40 <ThomasWaldmann> as for SOC, the main goal of GCI is getting people involved in FOSS projects. orgs gettings some code and people getting paid is somehow secondary.
156 2012-10-28T13:44:11 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: many of my TODOs are cleanups...
157 2012-10-28T13:44:52 <ThomasWaldmann> task size should be about 2h work time for a normal moin developer
158 2012-10-28T13:45:33 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: and each student responsible for one task...? how many students are we getting?
159 2012-10-28T13:45:34 <ThomasWaldmann> (thus, can be same or more for a young student / someone who is new to the project)
160 2012-10-28T13:45:56 <ThomasWaldmann> it works different than soc
161 2012-10-28T13:46:12 <ThomasWaldmann> we'll just post lots of tasks and students take them as they want
162 2012-10-28T13:47:09 <ThomasWaldmann> they are not obliged to work with just one org even, although the model for the grand prize winners will make it likely that students concentrate on one org if they go for that
163 2012-10-28T13:47:20 <xiaq> aha i checked out gci's official documentation. seems more fun than soc. :)
164 2012-10-28T13:48:35 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, only doing a 2-hour task after spending 5 hours reading doc and code is not that efficient...
165 2012-10-28T13:48:59 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that's surely true, at least at the beginning
166 2012-10-28T13:49:34 <ThomasWaldmann> but it's also about learning
167 2012-10-28T13:50:58 <ThomasWaldmann> and if a student doesn't like it, he/she can just quit after 0/1/3 tasks with no big loss
168 2012-10-28T13:51:36 <ThomasWaldmann> (neither for student, nor for org)
169 2012-10-28T13:51:46 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, that's where it's more fun than soc
170 2012-10-28T13:52:08 <ThomasWaldmann> if a student doesn't like soc, it means -5000 USD for the student and no usable code for org, that a big loss on both sides
171 2012-10-28T13:53:57 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: xiaq: hi :)
172 2012-10-28T13:54:28 <xiaq> sunu: hi
173 2012-10-28T13:55:18 <sunu> so is moin selected now for GCI ?
174 2012-10-28T13:55:35 <ThomasWaldmann> no, we are just preparing tasks and mentors
175 2012-10-28T13:56:03 <ThomasWaldmann> we need at least 5 tasks in each of those 5 categories and enough mentors to take part
176 2012-10-28T13:56:32 <ThomasWaldmann> that's for starting, many more tasks while it is ongoing
177 2012-10-28T13:58:03 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: 5 categories ?
178 2012-10-28T13:58:10 <dreimark> xiaq: some students had worked pipelined in the past
179 2012-10-28T14:00:13 <sunu> btw ThomasWaldmann https://codereview.appspot.com/6692048/ needs a review.
180 2012-10-28T14:00:46 <dreimark> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/list?can=1&q=closed&colspec=ID+Status+ClaimedBy+EndDate+Summary&x=status&y=claimedby&cells=tiles
181 2012-10-28T14:00:49 <dreimark> ghop ^
182 2012-10-28T14:02:05 <dreimark> that should give an expression what kind of work can be done
183 2012-10-28T14:02:48 <ThomasWaldmann> http://google-opensource.blogspot.de/2012_06_01_archive.html < nice :)
184 2012-10-28T14:03:08 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: see the headlines on EasyToDo
185 2012-10-28T14:03:37 <dreimark> sunu: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2012/help_page#kindsoftasks
186 2012-10-28T14:05:19 <dreimark> bbl
187 2012-10-28T14:09:09 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: reviewing now
188 2012-10-28T14:33:12 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: done
189 2012-10-28T14:45:32 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTalks/BayPiggies-2012-10-25
190 2012-10-28T14:45:54 <ThomasWaldmann> ^ updated slide, including some GSOC stuff
191 2012-10-28T14:53:19 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i didn't know it's svg until the last slide :)
192 2012-10-28T14:56:53 *** dcramer__
193 2012-10-28T15:35:47 *** Trip_
194 2012-10-28T15:42:50 *** RogerHaase
195 2012-10-28T15:55:44 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: cool slides :)
196 2012-10-28T15:57:57 * sunu is having some internet connection troubles today :(
197 2012-10-28T16:08:00 *** dcramer__
198 2012-10-28T16:12:33 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: replied on CR https://codereview.appspot.com/6692048/. Working on a update now :)
199 2012-10-28T16:21:15 *** dcramer__
200 2012-10-28T16:36:03 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: replied
201 2012-10-28T17:14:44 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: updated now. https://codereview.appspot.com/6692048. Have a look :)
202 2012-10-28T17:27:16 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: Have you signed in moin already ?
203 2012-10-28T17:27:58 <dreimark> signed up as org
204 2012-10-28T17:53:40 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: review done. if you want to look at another multistage auth, see openidrp
205 2012-10-28T17:53:50 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: no
206 2012-10-28T17:54:18 <ThomasWaldmann> but i didn't see any mentor activity yet either :)
207 2012-10-28T18:25:19 *** dcramer__
208 2012-10-28T18:25:54 <ThomasWaldmann> sunu: btw, logout_session and the redirect is already done by the logout view
209 2012-10-28T18:26:14 <ThomasWaldmann> so, no need to do it in the authclass.logout
210 2012-10-28T18:33:46 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: I still think we need to call handle_login() somewhere at least for the first time.. because handle_login is not executed unless there is 'login_submit' in the request data
211 2012-10-28T18:34:04 <sunu> Let me test though.
212 2012-10-28T18:38:47 <ThomasWaldmann> well, maybe that should be in the url if there are no login inputs needed
213 2012-10-28T18:45:49 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: Oh yes! got it :)
214 2012-10-28T19:20:16 *** MattMaker
215 2012-10-28T19:27:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i have not seen when the deadline is, but however i have a train ride > 6h tom. If there is internet i add the selenium test part
216 2012-10-28T19:35:36 *** MattMaker
217 2012-10-28T19:50:32 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: Done now. https://codereview.appspot.com/6692048 please review :)
218 2012-10-28T20:01:44 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: fix for #251 foobar headings have no anchor link: http://codereview.appspot.com/6784055/
219 2012-10-28T20:03:06 <ThomasWaldmann> hi RogerHaase
220 2012-10-28T20:03:36 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: fix user setting option for scroll-page-after-edit: http://codereview.appspot.com/6749065/
221 2012-10-28T20:03:55 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: can you look at the converter lineno links stuff on EasyToDo page? what's missing? could a gci student do it?
222 2012-10-28T20:04:16 <RogerHaase> moin :), hope you had a nice trip
223 2012-10-28T20:04:44 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: will review after sunu's stuff. yeah, was nice and mostly sunny. in germany it was snowing a bit when we returned.
224 2012-10-28T20:05:26 <RogerHaase> will look at converter lineno
225 2012-10-28T20:05:55 <sunu> ThomasWaldmann: snow is nice :)
226 2012-10-28T20:06:36 <dreimark> depends, hopefully it snows when I'm not travelling
227 2012-10-28T20:07:36 <sunu> dreimark: haha :D
228 2012-10-28T20:08:42 <dreimark> one week ago it was about 20 deg C in the Eifel, to warm.
229 2012-10-28T20:09:08 <dreimark> but that it becomes so cold in a few days was a little bit unexpected
230 2012-10-28T20:09:46 <sunu> dreimark: 20 deg C is the day time winter temperature here :(
231 2012-10-28T20:10:10 <sunu> In summer it's like 47-48.
232 2012-10-28T20:13:41 <sunu> dreimark: are you at pycon germany now ?
233 2012-10-28T20:13:49 <dreimark> no, tommorrow
234 2012-10-28T20:13:56 <dreimark> currently packing
235 2012-10-28T20:15:25 <sunu> oh great. Best wishes for your talk :)
236 2012-10-28T20:38:06 * sunu is going to bed. Good Night everyone.
237 2012-10-28T20:53:17 <ThomasWaldmann> gn sunu (and review done)
238 2012-10-28T20:59:57 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: short review done
239 2012-10-28T21:03:45 *** MattMaker
240 2012-10-28T21:22:27 *** MattMaker
241 2012-10-28T21:23:26 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: the browser rmb click to copy a link works as expected, e.g. does not scroll because it is not a click event
242 2012-10-28T21:28:20 *** MattMaker
243 2012-10-28T21:34:46 *** MattMaker
244 2012-10-28T21:38:59 *** MattMaker
245 2012-10-28T21:39:16 *** MattMaker
246 2012-10-28T21:44:00 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: and it copies the url of that heading to clipboard?
247 2012-10-28T21:45:46 *** dcramer__
248 2012-10-28T21:53:32 *** spy
249 2012-10-28T22:10:15 * ThomasWaldmann just copied some issues to the EasyToDo page - everybody can help by creating issuetracker entries from these and linking to them from EasyToDo if they are usable for gci
250 2012-10-28T22:29:42 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: yes, I tested with a p-tag and was able to do right-click, copy-link, and paste. e.g.
251 2012-10-28T22:30:28 <RogerHaase> $('p').click(function () { this.id='abc'; location.hash = this.id; });
252 2012-10-28T22:31:08 <RogerHaase> ...makes any paragraph stroll to top of window when left-clicked
253 2012-10-28T22:31:41 <RogerHaase> stroll/scroll
254 2012-10-28T22:35:56 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: did you miss this cr or no time yet: http://codereview.appspot.com/6749065/ fix user setting option for scroll-page-after-edit
255 2012-10-28T22:37:30 *** MattMaker
256 2012-10-28T22:37:50 *** MattMaker
257 2012-10-28T22:43:28 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: looking now
258 2012-10-28T22:52:42 <RogerHaase> gtg
259 2012-10-28T22:52:46 *** RogerHaase
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