MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2012-08-20

   1 2012-08-20T00:02:05  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: commit your stuff, merge main repo, should be 0 then.
   2 2012-08-20T00:03:20  <MaikuMori> According to bitbucket I have no incoming changes, I merged with main ~3h ago.
   3 2012-08-20T00:03:55  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
   4 2012-08-20T00:05:27  <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/rev/7b7ec9dccf34 this one fixed the failures
   5 2012-08-20T00:05:31  <MaikuMori> ah my bad was comparing to the wrong thing
   6 2012-08-20T00:12:45  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: yep that fixed it :), no failures now.
   7 2012-08-20T00:13:48  * MaikuMori feels relieved, he thought it's going to be a lot harder to fix the errors.
   8 2012-08-20T00:15:02  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: eSyr: latest code is @ https://bitbucket.org/maikumori/moin-2.0
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  11 2012-08-20T00:48:21  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: ExamplePlugin looks a bit rarely updated
  12 2012-08-20T00:49:25  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: and if you put it into the moin tree, the license needs to be "GPL v2 or later".
  13 2012-08-20T00:50:06  <MaikuMori> Alright will fix that.
  14 2012-08-20T00:50:25  <ThomasWaldmann> there is a contradiction: setupy.py says v2 or later, license.txt says v3 or later.
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  18 2012-08-20T04:21:09  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: milk??
  19 2012-08-20T04:23:12  <xiaq> (unlated to the "milk") hm, seems we are going to have another CIA flood very soon? :)
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  27 2012-08-20T09:19:49  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: milk -> see lower right of http://loldamn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/funny-i-am-your-father-IE-chrome-firefox.jpg
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  29 2012-08-20T09:49:22  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: where should I put plugin To-Do's?
  30 2012-08-20T09:52:39  <ThomasWaldmann> the docs have some markup for todo, use grep
  31 2012-08-20T10:04:49  <MaikuMori> Yeah I saw that, but it says that items should be removed from there and added to code/bitbucket
  32 2012-08-20T10:04:56  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
  33 2012-08-20T10:10:36  <ThomasWaldmann> you can do that also. currently your code is not merged, so you'ld need to use your bb repo/tracker
  34 2012-08-20T10:10:46  * ThomasWaldmann must leave, bbl
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  42 2012-08-20T14:08:06  <dreimark> moin
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  46 2012-08-20T15:13:36  <ThomasWaldmann> >>> True = False
  47 2012-08-20T15:13:36  <ThomasWaldmann> >>> True == False
  48 2012-08-20T15:13:36  <ThomasWaldmann> True
  49 2012-08-20T15:21:27  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: where is that?
  50 2012-08-20T15:22:14  <breton> in python2 :)
  51 2012-08-20T15:22:25  <breton> ThomasWaldmann: will post a view with it now. An push to the repo.
  52 2012-08-20T15:25:48  <dreimark> not in OUR code or?
  53 2012-08-20T15:40:04  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that was important news from pycon au :)
  54 2012-08-20T15:43:21  <breton> dreimark: anywhere. In python shell, for example.
  55 2012-08-20T15:43:36  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: it's "ur, but you're my mother"
  56 2012-08-20T15:47:00  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: ah, ok. i noticed that, too. :D
  57 2012-08-20T15:50:22  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: that didn't fit, or wasn't it father in that sketch?
  58 2012-08-20T15:52:08  <ThomasWaldmann> in star wars, darth vader is the (kind of unexpected) father of luke. but a cow giving milk is obviously female...
  59 2012-08-20T15:52:26  <dreimark> yeah
  60 2012-08-20T15:52:36  <dreimark> now it starts raining here
  61 2012-08-20T15:52:47  <ThomasWaldmann> that's the water cooling :)
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  65 2012-08-20T17:15:47  <dreimark> bbl
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  68 2012-08-20T17:37:28  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: any ideas where I should put this: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin2-PluginSystem-thoughts
  69 2012-08-20T17:37:50  <MaikuMori> I've cleaned it up, not it mostly contains information regarding current implementation and what to do.
  70 2012-08-20T17:39:04  <MaikuMori> As for original EP, I could clean it up, but I'd rather keep it as it is. It contains design process and sometimes explains why certain things are done the way thery're done and why some stuff was dropped.
  71 2012-08-20T17:39:15  <MaikuMori> for the*
  72 2012-08-20T17:47:18  <ThomasWaldmann> EP is not permanent storage
  73 2012-08-20T17:48:40  <ThomasWaldmann> so, make some docs from it. put it in rst format into docs/...
  74 2012-08-20T17:49:11  <ThomasWaldmann> another option for some stuff might be putting it into some source docstring (if it is related to that src)
  75 2012-08-20T17:49:15  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori:
  76 2012-08-20T17:49:57  <MaikuMori> I guess I could make seperate .rst just for plugin system
  77 2012-08-20T17:50:02  <ThomasWaldmann> a while ago i saw some design defence contained in some sw docs, i found that quite nice
  78 2012-08-20T17:50:52  <MaikuMori> hmm, I could put the original EP in wiki without modifying it too much
  79 2012-08-20T17:51:10  <ThomasWaldmann> if you put it into the wiki, noone will find it
  80 2012-08-20T17:52:29  <MaikuMori> As it is now it's not very useful, the EP I linked is a lot more useful
  81 2012-08-20T17:52:43  <MaikuMori> I just don't want it to get totally lost.
  82 2012-08-20T17:52:48  <ThomasWaldmann> as i said...
  83 2012-08-20T17:53:08  <ThomasWaldmann> consider it lost if you do not put it at a more permanent place
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  85 2012-08-20T17:56:19  <ThomasWaldmann> omg, bill gates building toilets and nuclear reactors
  86 2012-08-20T17:56:27  <ThomasWaldmann> we are fscked!!1
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  93 2012-08-20T18:23:14  <MaikuMori> Should I make CR for the documentation changes?
  94 2012-08-20T18:23:20  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: eSyr: ^^
  95 2012-08-20T18:24:12  <MaikuMori> Also I think there could be few days in calendar which don't have any input but I've done some work. I could try cross checking it with my commits. Worth the time?
  96 2012-08-20T18:45:48  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: no
  97 2012-08-20T18:46:37  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: well, you should have done your calendar at same day, but if you can link to changesets from the entries, you can create the missing entries afterwards
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  99 2012-08-20T18:52:54  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: eSyr: most recent changes https://bitbucket.org/maikumori/moin-2.0/overview
 100 2012-08-20T18:53:12  <MaikuMori> Still have 2h, hopefully I can do some last minute work.
 101 2012-08-20T18:53:31  <MaikuMori> Anything specific I should focus on?
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 106 2012-08-20T19:50:02  <eSyr-ng> MaikuMori: what are you working now on?
 107 2012-08-20T19:51:39  <MaikuMori> just going trough stuff
 108 2012-08-20T19:52:01  <MaikuMori> eSyr-ng: maybe you have some ideas
 109 2012-08-20T19:52:33  <MaikuMori> all tests pass, pep8 is ok, docs could be better I guess.
 110 2012-08-20T19:56:17  <eSyr-ng> mmm, well, i think it's rather late to try to do another type of plugins, so try to focus on docs and packaging.
 111 2012-08-20T19:57:15  <eSyr-ng> iirc Thomas said that there are some issues with example plugin.
 112 2012-08-20T19:58:20  <eSyr-ng> ah, see, "rarely updated"
 113 2012-08-20T19:59:30  <MaikuMori> Some of the inbuilt plugins are better reference than anything I could quickly mock up in ExamplePlugin package
 114 2012-08-20T19:59:51  <eSyr-ng> yes, as always.
 115 2012-08-20T20:00:01  <MaikuMori> For example there are no inbuilt blueprint plugins at the moment so it makes sense to have that functionality in ExamplePlugin
 116 2012-08-20T20:00:22  <MaikuMori> but auth, stores, etc they're all there with real implementation
 117 2012-08-20T20:00:31  <MaikuMori> in the core code.
 118 2012-08-20T20:00:32  <eSyr-ng> yeah, of course.
 119 2012-08-20T20:01:35  <MaikuMori> That's why it's somewhat lacking at the moment.
 120 2012-08-20T20:02:30  <MaikuMori> Could add references to the core classes in the docs.
 121 2012-08-20T20:03:00  <eSyr-ng> that would be fine.
 122 2012-08-20T20:03:00  <MaikuMori> So if someone wants to look up an example, he'd know where to look.
 123 2012-08-20T20:03:30  <eSyr-ng> yeah, initial version of documentation is quite unfinished, so i think it's better to focus on it.
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 127 2012-08-20T20:36:54  <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: should I add documentation now or afterwords (its not complete yet)
 128 2012-08-20T20:38:39  <ThomasWaldmann> you can add it anytime, but if it shall get considered for soc, you only have some minutes left...
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 130 2012-08-20T20:39:49  <MaikuMori> 20mins
 131 2012-08-20T20:55:54  <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: can you pull the documentation from my repo ?
 132 2012-08-20T20:56:19  <jaiditya> its in raw state but I wanted it to get merged
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 135 2012-08-20T21:04:36  <MaikuMori> Well .... it's over.
 136 2012-08-20T21:24:03  <MaikuMori> Also congratulation on the themes, I didn't like the initial screenshots, but the final result looks really nice :)
 137 2012-08-20T21:24:31  <jaiditya> thanks :)
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 144 2012-08-20T22:43:07  <dreimark> grrrrr melange
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 149 2012-08-20T23:10:17  <dreimark> spy: xiaq please file the midterm eval
 150 2012-08-20T23:10:32  <dreimark> MaikuMori: breton jaiditya too
 151 2012-08-20T23:11:09  <MaikuMori> Already done :)
 152 2012-08-20T23:11:25  <MaikuMori> and you mean final review, wish it was midterm :D
 153 2012-08-20T23:11:40  <dreimark> oops yes, sure
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