1 2012-07-02T00:11:05 * dreimark greats too
2 2012-07-02T00:13:26 <RogerHaase> you missed http://www.worldsoldestrodeo.com/history.html :)
3 2012-07-02T00:30:35 *** RogerHaase
4 2012-07-02T03:39:02 *** ChanServ
5 2012-07-02T05:00:36 *** ChanServ
6 2012-07-02T05:00:36 *** kornbluth.freenode.net
7 2012-07-02T05:54:32 *** dwcramer
8 2012-07-02T05:58:13 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: updated cr http://codereview.appspot.com/6303091/
9 2012-07-02T06:27:10 *** Trip_
10 2012-07-02T06:37:30 *** MattMaker
11 2012-07-02T07:10:09 *** MattMaker
12 2012-07-02T07:13:28 *** MattMaker
13 2012-07-02T07:32:09 *** MattMaker
14 2012-07-02T08:42:20 <dreimark> moin
15 2012-07-02T08:51:36 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
16 2012-07-02T09:00:04 *** jaiditya
17 2012-07-02T09:53:06 <MaikuMori> moin
18 2012-07-02T10:11:07 <dreimark> MaikuMori: how is it going, something to review?
19 2012-07-02T10:11:42 <dreimark> spy: you missed las meeting
20 2012-07-02T10:12:48 <dreimark> as noted in your page
21 2012-07-02T10:13:49 <dreimark> but what was with 27th 28th?
22 2012-07-02T10:30:29 <MaikuMori> Need to mostly work on EP, I'll get on it in about 5mins.
23 2012-07-02T11:10:02 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: i would assum xstatic-ckeditor as undistributable. the javascript files are clearly not the prefered form of modification. and it lacks the license
24 2012-07-02T11:18:56 *** greg_f
25 2012-07-02T11:50:04 <bretonium> a warning for everybody: DO NOT update your python version and DO NOT remove your env directory. There is a set of bugs, which prevent from using moins quickinstall without problems: https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/290 , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679337 , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677801
26 2012-07-02T11:50:34 <bretonium> *moin's
27 2012-07-02T11:50:49 * bretonium is a bit blocked by that now, resolving
28 2012-07-02T11:53:01 *** vedranm
29 2012-07-02T11:53:25 <vedranm> hi
30 2012-07-02T11:53:27 <bretonium> anybody ever worked with urlparse? Suggestion for non-breaking solution?
31 2012-07-02T11:53:32 <vedranm> small bug in Opera on Moin 1.9
32 2012-07-02T11:53:50 <vedranm> double click on content that opens editing fails on pages with Unicode characters in names
33 2012-07-02T11:54:12 <vedranm> Edit (Text) and Edit (GUI) both work normally
34 2012-07-02T11:54:55 *** CIA-54
35 2012-07-02T11:54:55 *** ThomasWaldmann
36 2012-07-02T11:56:21 *** CIA-54
37 2012-07-02T11:56:21 *** ThomasWaldmann
38 2012-07-02T11:56:35 <bretonium> the solution to my problem is to use python2.6, not python2.7
39 2012-07-02T11:58:06 <bretonium> hmm, no, doesn't work for python2.6
40 2012-07-02T11:58:24 <bretonium> error: invalid command 'compile_catalog'
41 2012-07-02T11:59:20 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: waldi:
42 2012-07-02T12:02:15 <bretonium> hmm, it seems, that this error doesn't break anything. "source env/bin/activate; pip install --download-cache=dlc -e ." runs ok after that.
43 2012-07-02T12:59:53 <dreimark> vedranm: please open an issue on MM Bug page, we can collect ideas/workarounds tehre
44 2012-07-02T13:00:49 <dreimark> bretonium: have you now trouble or is the new env working
45 2012-07-02T13:02:00 *** MattMaker
46 2012-07-02T13:02:11 <dreimark> waldi: please be more verbose, what is the problem, do we need a license file inside each xstatic package
47 2012-07-02T13:04:53 <vedranm> dreimark: ok
48 2012-07-02T13:14:10 <bretonium> dreimark: it's working, but with with python2.6 only
49 2012-07-02T13:14:44 <bretonium> pip fails with enabled virtualenv && python2.7
50 2012-07-02T13:16:28 <waldi> dreimark: it needs a clear indication of license. this is usually a verbatim copy of the license text
51 2012-07-02T13:17:18 <waldi> also it needs source. the javascript files are no source
52 2012-07-02T13:27:02 <jaiditya> waldi: is it necessary to include the seperate stylesheet of ckeditor ?
53 2012-07-02T13:27:43 <jaiditya> contents.css
54 2012-07-02T13:33:13 *** kanha
55 2012-07-02T13:34:00 *** kanha_
56 2012-07-02T13:35:51 *** dwcramer
57 2012-07-02T13:49:07 <waldi> jaiditya: doesn't look like
58 2012-07-02T13:50:16 <jaiditya> so better we don't include it.
59 2012-07-02T13:50:19 <waldi> jaiditya: you can overwrite contentsCss in some sort of config
60 2012-07-02T13:51:40 <jaiditya> waldi: its simply linked in modify_text_html.html . I am removing it from there
61 2012-07-02T13:53:28 <waldi> okay
62 2012-07-02T14:03:36 <dreimark> waldi: do you ask because of the minmized source?
63 2012-07-02T14:04:12 <dreimark> it is mostly only the stuff one needs and not the example implementation for php
64 2012-07-02T14:04:17 <dreimark> e.g.
65 2012-07-02T14:08:27 <ThomasWaldmann> .moin
66 2012-07-02T14:11:12 <waldi> dreimark: yes. gpl defines source code as "preferred form of the work for making modifications to it". you clearly don't do modifications in this, so it is no source
67 2012-07-02T14:13:23 <dreimark> gpl says also that it must be dowloadable from some place and we haven't changed something
68 2012-07-02T14:13:38 <dreimark> it is downloadabl
69 2012-07-02T14:13:39 <dreimark> e
70 2012-07-02T14:14:22 <dreimark> bretonium: if you use 2.6 we don't get features into the code which will work only with 2.7.x
71 2012-07-02T14:16:34 <jaiditya> waldi: dreimark: I am confused over issue https://bitbucket.org/Jaiditya/moin-2.0/issue/23/admin-have-unusable-title
72 2012-07-02T14:18:33 <dreimark> what is confusing explian
73 2012-07-02T14:20:45 <jaiditya> as you said title Admin was confusing so title was changed to More but now another bug has been filed regarding the title
74 2012-07-02T14:23:48 <dreimark> jaiditya: url
75 2012-07-02T14:24:32 <jaiditya> http://localhost:8080/%2Badmin/
76 2012-07-02T14:30:05 <dreimark> jaiditya: i meant the bug report url, but a better word may be just st misc ?
77 2012-07-02T14:30:27 *** dwcramer
78 2012-07-02T14:30:33 <dreimark> misc
79 2012-07-02T14:30:57 <jaiditya> https://bitbucket.org/Jaiditya/moin-2.0/issue/23/admin-have-unusable-title
80 2012-07-02T14:31:24 *** dwcramer
81 2012-07-02T14:32:52 <dreimark> jaiditya: it is not all Admin stuff and if More is a bad choice, how ist it with Misc ?
82 2012-07-02T14:32:52 <jaiditya> waldi:^^
83 2012-07-02T14:33:54 <jaiditya> Looks good to me. Infact I thought for the same
84 2012-07-02T14:36:16 <waldi> both more and misc doesn't tell the user anything
85 2012-07-02T14:36:38 <dreimark> waldi: your suggestion, an othe option is to split it
86 2012-07-02T14:37:18 <dreimark> waldi: isn't it enough to provide an ul with the full source if we didn't change it
87 2012-07-02T14:37:37 <dreimark> s/ul/url/
88 2012-07-02T14:57:55 <waldi> dreimark: you can refer to it with an url. but you are responsible that it remains accessible in this location
89 2012-07-02T14:58:29 <waldi> also in this case the "source" may be no source at all
90 2012-07-02T15:07:19 <dreimark> ok
91 2012-07-02T15:07:54 <dreimark> waldi: what solution do you sugges for more, admin section?
92 2012-07-02T15:13:36 *** dwcramer
93 2012-07-02T15:14:59 <waldi> the config uses "Administration & Docs" is not so wrong
94 2012-07-02T15:16:15 <dreimark> User Menu did not fit
95 2012-07-02T15:16:43 <waldi> the application is called admin
96 2012-07-02T15:17:59 <dreimark> yeah, then we should split it, move non admin stuff into some other place e.g
97 2012-07-02T15:18:22 <dreimark> user stuff into +user
98 2012-07-02T15:18:41 <dreimark> or sommething, soon out of battery
99 2012-07-02T15:20:17 <dreimark> jaiditya: ^^
100 2012-07-02T15:21:10 <jaiditya> yeah
101 2012-07-02T15:21:23 <jaiditya> so It should be split
102 2012-07-02T15:22:15 <dreimark> can those user related things be shown if user goes on settings on a panel?
103 2012-07-02T15:22:45 <dreimark> or if the user goes to his homepage
104 2012-07-02T15:22:51 <dreimark> some of it?
105 2012-07-02T15:23:22 <jaiditya> Username is always there on the left panel
106 2012-07-02T15:23:57 <jaiditya> and for settings panel I am looking for it
107 2012-07-02T15:24:07 <dreimark> may be it better fits into +user or something sim
108 2012-07-02T15:24:28 <dreimark> just show the plan after you have an idea to fix it
109 2012-07-02T15:24:52 <dreimark> bbl
110 2012-07-02T15:25:00 <jaiditya> ok
111 2012-07-02T15:25:18 *** dwcramer
112 2012-07-02T15:48:17 <ThomasWaldmann> re
113 2012-07-02T15:50:07 <dreimark> re
114 2012-07-02T15:52:35 <ThomasWaldmann> the stuff under "user menu" should be available easily for normal users, same for the docs
115 2012-07-02T16:04:52 <ThomasWaldmann> and similar the "admin menu" for users having superuser capability
116 2012-07-02T16:05:04 <ThomasWaldmann> jaiditya: can you split this in some sane way?
117 2012-07-02T16:09:35 <ThomasWaldmann> (and think how it can be done for modernized while doing that)
118 2012-07-02T16:17:02 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: btw, for linux packagers, there is a comment in the xstatic __init__.py (BASE_DIR)
119 2012-07-02T16:18:04 <ThomasWaldmann> for sane linux packaging, a packager would have to remove all files, set BASE_DIR to point to the directory where the distribution offers the files and package xstatic-foo just as a little more than a dummy package that requires the real package
120 2012-07-02T17:26:59 *** RogerHaase
121 2012-07-02T17:32:27 <RogerHaase> vedranm: regarding the Opera double-click problem: did you uncheck the Opera context menu? http://master19.moinmo.in/HelpOnEditing#Opera_Displays_Context_Menu_on_Double-Click
122 2012-07-02T17:39:26 *** jaiditya
123 2012-07-02T18:19:44 *** dave_largo
124 2012-07-02T18:25:24 *** dwcramer
125 2012-07-02T18:44:05 *** dwcramer
126 2012-07-02T19:14:55 <dreimark> re
127 2012-07-02T19:15:51 *** brunomartin
128 2012-07-02T19:33:38 <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: is util.plugins used somewhere?
129 2012-07-02T19:38:28 <vedranm> RogerHaase: yes
130 2012-07-02T19:38:38 <vedranm> url generated is wrong
131 2012-07-02T19:38:52 <vedranm> unicode characters get broken
132 2012-07-02T19:47:38 *** greg_f
133 2012-07-02T19:53:06 <vedranm> RogerHaase: e.g. Vježba will turn to Vje<square><square>ba
134 2012-07-02T19:57:12 <MaikuMori> esyr: eSyr-ng: any chance we could discuss plugin system a bit
135 2012-07-02T20:14:02 <RogerHaase> vedranm: sorry, I can not help more as I only speak English and dealing with unicode in javascript looks non-trivial. A guess is the problem starts at line 570 in common.js where the '?action=edit....' string should be converted to unicode if the url in document.location is unicode.
136 2012-07-02T20:51:39 *** technossomy
137 2012-07-02T20:51:59 *** dave_largo2
138 2012-07-02T20:52:59 *** dave_largo
139 2012-07-02T20:58:55 *** technossomy
140 2012-07-02T20:59:33 *** technossomy
141 2012-07-02T21:08:03 *** dwcramer
142 2012-07-02T21:27:36 *** dwcramer
143 2012-07-02T21:30:10 <ThomasWaldmann> re
144 2012-07-02T22:06:06 *** MattMaker
145 2012-07-02T22:09:38 *** dwcramer
146 2012-07-02T22:10:37 <dreimark> re
147 2012-07-02T22:11:46 <dreimark> MaikuMori: why do you ask?
148 2012-07-02T22:19:02 *** jaiditya
149 2012-07-02T22:23:28 *** dwcramer
150 2012-07-02T22:33:42 <dreimark> search for it. you find it in macro
151 2012-07-02T22:51:03 *** MattMaker
152 2012-07-02T22:56:48 *** MattMaker
153 2012-07-02T22:56:52 *** Trip__
154 2012-07-02T23:02:21 *** Trip__
155 2012-07-02T23:04:07 <vedranm> RogerHaase: well, it works in both Firefox and Chrome, so it could be a bug in Opera
156 2012-07-02T23:04:33 <vedranm> to be honest, I don't care too much about it since doesn't limit my ability to use Opera with Moin too much
157 2012-07-02T23:04:40 <vedranm> but if it can be fixed, why not
158 2012-07-02T23:18:40 *** dave_largo2
159 2012-07-02T23:20:50 *** bilal
160 2012-07-02T23:23:42 *** bilal
161 2012-07-02T23:40:34 *** dwcramer
162 2012-07-02T23:42:02 *** MattMaker
163 2012-07-02T23:43:12 *** MattMaker
164 2012-07-02T23:54:12 *** dwcramer
165 2012-07-02T23:55:38 *** MattMaker
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