1 2012-05-02T00:14:04  <dreimark> moin
   2 2012-05-02T00:14:21  <dreimark> btw. make from time to time a local copy of your ep
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  37 2012-05-02T08:07:24  <MaikuMori> moin
  38 2012-05-02T09:07:08  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, the class model is also fully customizable, making it very flexible
  39 2012-05-02T09:07:34  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: but i suspect fully customizable schema would be overkill for a "simple and usable issue tracker".
  40 2012-05-02T09:07:37  <xiaq> :)
  41 2012-05-02T09:07:58  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: anyway since we've got Flatland
  42 2012-05-02T09:08:06  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: making it customizable might be trivial
  43 2012-05-02T09:08:37  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i'm also experimenting on converting Roundup's schema model to Flatland,
  44 2012-05-02T09:08:47  <xiaq> to unify the backend schema and frontend presentation
  45 2012-05-02T09:12:01  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: PS. i have been accepted as roundup committer :)
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  48 2012-05-02T10:27:07  <dreimark> moin
  49 2012-05-02T10:27:49  <dreimark> xiaq: cool
  50 2012-05-02T10:27:57  <dreimark> or lets say great
  51 2012-05-02T10:43:40  <ronny> oO
  52 2012-05-02T10:43:45  <ronny> what is xiaq implementing?
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  55 2012-05-02T11:26:54  <breton_> ThomasWaldmann: will continue working on the plan today. Either in ~1.5h, or in 9-10h.
  56 2012-05-02T11:48:44  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  57 2012-05-02T12:13:31  <esyr> MaikuMori: i've added some open questions to the end of etherpad.
  58 2012-05-02T12:15:12  <MaikuMori> Thanks, I'll take a look a them now
  59 2012-05-02T12:22:59  <esyr> (well, open for me)
  60 2012-05-02T12:25:50  <MaikuMori> Done, going to grab something to eat now though. ThomasWaldmann should probably go over it as well.
  61 2012-05-02T13:08:28  <MaikuMori> Is there date chosen for the weekly meeting? Is it the 3rd May?
  62 2012-05-02T14:12:48  <esyr> MaikuMori: added little more on etherpad.
  63 2012-05-02T14:12:53  <esyr> MaikuMori: looks so.
  64 2012-05-02T14:13:01  <esyr> ThomasWaldmann: ^^^
  65 2012-05-02T14:13:15  <esyr> (at least, there's no other dates/times currently)
  66 2012-05-02T14:13:19  <esyr> (on doodle)
  67 2012-05-02T14:26:18  <xiaq> ronny: issue tracker: http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2012/IssueTracker
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  71 2012-05-02T15:08:26  <xiaq> ronny: ps. roundup is an issue tracker itself, used by python.org - bugs.python.org
  72 2012-05-02T15:08:36  <ronny> xiaq: im aware of that
  73 2012-05-02T15:08:48  <ronny> xiaq: i desperately ate roundup for being suck a pule of pain
  74 2012-05-02T15:08:55  <ronny> *hate
  75 2012-05-02T15:09:18  <xiaq> hm..
  76 2012-05-02T15:09:24  <xiaq> what's wrong?
  77 2012-05-02T15:13:09  <xiaq> ronny: do you find it hard to use or to administer?
  78 2012-05-02T15:13:48  <ronny> xiaq: both
  79 2012-05-02T15:14:04  <xiaq> ronny: haha
  80 2012-05-02T15:14:12  <xiaq> what's wrong with it, exactly?
  81 2012-05-02T15:14:40  <ronny> its a barebone thing that is kind of a bts framework, but its hard to program
  82 2012-05-02T15:14:46  <ronny> also the data model is a mess
  83 2012-05-02T15:15:02  * ronny is taking care of the pypy roundup
  84 2012-05-02T15:15:52  <xiaq> hm
  85 2012-05-02T15:16:38  * xiaq takes care of a couple of roundup sites too
  86 2012-05-02T15:17:02  <xiaq> i think TAL is part of the reason why it's hard to program
  87 2012-05-02T15:17:18  <ronny> tal should have died like 10 years ago
  88 2012-05-02T15:18:13  <xiaq> ronny: i'm implementing support for other templating engines
  89 2012-05-02T15:19:55  <ronny> xiaq: that might make it worse, there are good reasons for havng only on
  90 2012-05-02T15:20:11  <xiaq> hm?
  91 2012-05-02T15:20:26  <xiaq> ronny: currently i'm working on Chameleon support
  92 2012-05-02T15:20:40  <xiaq> Chameleon is pretty much an improved version of TAL
  93 2012-05-02T15:20:56  <xiaq> ronny: but i haven't got it 100% right yet
  94 2012-05-02T15:21:40  <xiaq> ronny: yeah... i have thought about possible downsides of introducing some radically different templating engines
  95 2012-05-02T15:21:49  <xiaq> ronny: but chameleon is a safe move :)
  96 2012-05-02T15:22:02  <ronny> oh, the same xml mess
  97 2012-05-02T15:23:01  * xiaq got to go
  98 2012-05-02T15:24:11  <xiaq> ronny: ps. i guess roundup gave a really bad first impression because of its ugly default templates :)
  99 2012-05-02T15:38:35  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: if you like, have a look over the etherpad for the ticket system: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-issue-tracker
 100 2012-05-02T15:40:17  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, every mentor/student should have an email now about the first weekly meeting dates
 101 2012-05-02T15:42:28  * ThomasWaldmann is not too happy with these dates and wondering whether we should do the doodle again for the coding phase dates
 102 2012-05-02T16:48:42  <xiaq> time is ok with me
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 112 2012-05-02T20:09:01  <ThomasWaldmann> would linuxtag 2012 be an interesting place for a developer meeting? http://www.linuxtag.org/ ? whoever is interested, please contact me.
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 118 2012-05-02T20:45:30  <jaiditya|2> ThomasWaldmann: about moin-gsoc meeting. as the doodle-calender shows. is it final yet ?
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 120 2012-05-02T20:50:19  <dreimark> jaiditya: as described on the soc page of us
 121 2012-05-02T20:51:19  <jaiditya> ok
 122 2012-05-02T20:53:55  <jaiditya> and one problem i have encountered is that, everytime i restart my local server i am not able to login with my username and password created earlier
 123 2012-05-02T20:58:25  <dreimark> i try to reproduce that
 124 2012-05-02T20:59:06  <dreimark> jaiditya: works for me
 125 2012-05-02T20:59:31  <dreimark> give more details
 126 2012-05-02T21:01:42  <jaiditya> i have id named moin2 and one named Jaiditya. now when i am trying to login through them it says incorrect username or password
 127 2012-05-02T21:02:30  <jaiditya> and it does say that this id exists but i am not able to login
 128 2012-05-02T21:03:25  <jaiditya> i used moin2 when i created it during my last use. when i restarted the server now i cannot access it
 129 2012-05-02T21:04:52  <jaiditya> ahh it doesn't says incorrect username or password. it simply lands me back to home page
 130 2012-05-02T21:05:41  <jaiditya> without me logged in.
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 133 2012-05-02T22:01:23  <dreimark> jaiditya: strange which tip is that?
 134 2012-05-02T22:03:51  <jaiditya> umm...the latest one
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 136 2012-05-02T22:22:21  <dreimark> jaiditya: which browser
 137 2012-05-02T22:22:32  <dreimark> check cookies
 138 2012-05-02T22:23:03  <jaiditya> chrome
 139 2012-05-02T22:26:58  <jaiditya> no problem with cookies...
 140 2012-05-02T22:28:59  <dreimark> try firefox
 141 2012-05-02T22:29:12  <dreimark> report if the problem is also with that
 142 2012-05-02T22:29:38  <jaiditya> ok
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 147 2012-05-02T22:43:33  <dreimark> hi waldi
 148 2012-05-02T22:43:42  <dreimark> i meant WaldiTM
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