1 2012-03-27T00:00:00 <sudo_dirk> ^^windows
2 2012-03-27T00:00:33 <sudo_dirk> mimetypes.guess_type("test.jpg")
3 2012-03-27T00:00:35 <sudo_dirk> ('image/jpeg', None)
4 2012-03-27T00:00:40 <sudo_dirk> ^^linux
5 2012-03-27T00:00:49 <dreimark> yes, seen. stupid
6 2012-03-27T00:00:57 <sudo_dirk> in deed
7 2012-03-27T00:01:01 <bretonium> so, apllications period started
8 2012-03-27T00:01:14 <TheSheep> there sure be a law against stupid software
9 2012-03-27T00:01:19 <TheSheep> should*
10 2012-03-27T00:01:28 <sudo_dirk> oh yes!!!!
11 2012-03-27T00:01:51 <sudo_dirk> but there is an easy woraround possible.
12 2012-03-27T00:01:56 <dreimark> grep pjpeg mime.types
13 2012-03-27T00:02:06 <dreimark> says nothing
14 2012-03-27T00:02:34 <TheSheep> I think that the python mimetypes module has its own database
15 2012-03-27T00:02:50 <TheSheep> you might be dealing with differences in python versions
16 2012-03-27T00:03:26 <sudo_dirk> just a sec. reboot
17 2012-03-27T00:04:22 <TheSheep> oh, it reads from windows registry on windows
18 2012-03-27T00:04:35 <TheSheep> so it depends on what programs you have installed
19 2012-03-27T00:05:30 <sudo_dirk> i have pjpeg on two completely different systems
20 2012-03-27T00:05:51 <TheSheep> it also reads from a number of known files
21 2012-03-27T00:06:05 <TheSheep> liek /etc/mime.types and /etc/apache/mime.types
22 2012-03-27T00:06:10 <TheSheep> like
23 2012-03-27T00:07:43 <TheSheep> hmm, but it only reads those files and windows registry if it gets no explicit file list at initialization
24 2012-03-27T00:08:12 <dreimark> http://seewhatever.de/blog/?p=50
25 2012-03-27T00:08:55 <dreimark> pjpeg mime type refers to a PROTECTED jpeg image, not progressive, hence the “secure download”
26 2012-03-27T00:09:02 <dreimark> can you verify that?
27 2012-03-27T00:09:30 <TheSheep> oh my, drm-ed jpeg?
28 2012-03-27T00:10:03 <sudo_dirk> http://codereview.appspot.com/5912043
29 2012-03-27T00:10:34 <sudo_dirk> sry, just Image.py
30 2012-03-27T00:11:29 <TheSheep> this is so wrong
31 2012-03-27T00:11:58 <TheSheep> the stuff with using unregistered mime type, I mean
32 2012-03-27T00:12:43 <TheSheep> sudo_dirk: I would do if content_type in ('image/jpeg', 'image/pjpeg'): ...
33 2012-03-27T00:12:43 <dreimark> http://www.evolve.co.nz/news.php?extend.8.1
34 2012-03-27T00:12:55 <dreimark> i
35 2012-03-27T00:12:58 <dreimark> read that
36 2012-03-27T00:16:28 <dreimark> me is to tired for that currently i look tom. what i want to know is if win can understand image/jpeg
37 2012-03-27T00:17:03 <dreimark> and only those protected image have that pjpeg because of the reason given in the article
38 2012-03-27T00:17:12 <dreimark> gn
39 2012-03-27T00:17:20 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: gn8
40 2012-03-27T00:21:29 <sudo_dirk> gn8 all
41 2012-03-27T01:09:38 *** jaiditya
42 2012-03-27T01:10:54 *** dcramer_
43 2012-03-27T01:24:34 *** RogerHaase
44 2012-03-27T01:26:02 *** brunomartin
45 2012-03-27T02:24:18 *** diofeher
46 2012-03-27T03:19:22 *** ayrus12
47 2012-03-27T03:33:27 *** brunomartin
48 2012-03-27T03:49:05 *** dcramer_
49 2012-03-27T04:05:19 *** diofeher
50 2012-03-27T04:50:05 *** sudo_dirk
51 2012-03-27T05:04:24 *** sudo_dirk
52 2012-03-27T05:16:29 *** dcramer_
53 2012-03-27T06:06:38 *** MattMaker
54 2012-03-27T06:22:32 *** MattMaker
55 2012-03-27T06:30:16 *** MattMaker
56 2012-03-27T08:17:45 <xiaq> GSoC student application is open :) should I copy paste my proposal or just link it?
57 2012-03-27T08:19:32 *** jaiditya
58 2012-03-27T08:20:59 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: what do you think to use http://pymedia.org/ for video support of arnica?
59 2012-03-27T08:34:48 <ronny> sudo_dirk: at first glance that thing looks a lot worse than stuff like gstreamer
60 2012-03-27T08:46:15 <sudo_dirk> what do you think about http://code.google.com/p/pyffmpeg/
61 2012-03-27T08:49:30 <sudo_dirk> ronny: i saw that the last time pymedia had been update was a long time ago :-(
62 2012-03-27T08:53:11 <ronny> sudo_dirk: yffmpeg looks workable i guess, gstreamer + ffmpeg should suffice i think
63 2012-03-27T09:00:03 <sudo_dirk> need to go. bbl.
64 2012-03-27T10:06:01 *** jaiditya
65 2012-03-27T10:16:51 *** in3xes
66 2012-03-27T10:26:43 *** in3xes
67 2012-03-27T10:50:41 *** MaikuMori
68 2012-03-27T11:01:10 *** greg_f
69 2012-03-27T11:21:13 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: in the end, you'll have to copy it. but i suggest using the available time to work on it. maybe do not wait unti last minute/hour, though.
70 2012-03-27T11:31:11 *** ayrus12
71 2012-03-27T11:32:20 *** ayrus12
72 2012-03-27T11:35:54 *** jaiditya
73 2012-03-27T11:44:50 *** brunomartin
74 2012-03-27T11:47:54 *** ayrus12
75 2012-03-27T12:04:01 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: what do u think about having a bit jazzier theme for moinmoin ?
76 2012-03-27T12:04:42 <ThomasWaldmann> for the beginning, we only want to have a FEW, but good themes
77 2012-03-27T12:05:15 <ThomasWaldmann> so, as moin is used by businesses, organisations and also privately, it shouldn't be too exotic
78 2012-03-27T12:06:28 <jaiditya> yeah, bt as for now theme having texture instead of a solid colour in background
79 2012-03-27T12:06:34 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't know what you mean exactly, but i guess you know now better what we want
80 2012-03-27T12:08:03 <ThomasWaldmann> so?
81 2012-03-27T12:08:28 <jaiditya> yeah. i have a ready layout which i ws working on
82 2012-03-27T12:09:51 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if you want to show, just publish a screenshot somewhere to get feedback
83 2012-03-27T12:10:24 <jaiditya> i m uploading a jpg of it on my wiki homepage
84 2012-03-27T12:19:47 <jaiditya> its uploaded on my wiki homepage http://moinmo.in/JaidityaMathur
85 2012-03-27T12:20:16 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: its upload
86 2012-03-27T12:24:48 * ThomasWaldmann looks
87 2012-03-27T12:25:47 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that's already prettier than what we have. :)
88 2012-03-27T12:26:07 <jaiditya> thank you
89 2012-03-27T12:26:14 <ThomasWaldmann> The MoinMoin logo text at the lower right has no good readability, though.
90 2012-03-27T12:27:01 <ThomasWaldmann> Also other font rendering seems a bit impacted by the background, the char outline looks rough.
91 2012-03-27T12:27:30 <ThomasWaldmann> (esp. for the Text "Home does not exist...")
92 2012-03-27T12:27:33 <jaiditya> yeah its not fine yet
93 2012-03-27T12:28:09 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ^^ can you have a look, too?
94 2012-03-27T12:28:42 <jaiditya> we can have a lighter shades in bt my point ws going fr some textured look then plain
95 2012-03-27T12:29:17 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe in general a bit lighter bg colours
96 2012-03-27T12:29:33 <jaiditya> yeah
97 2012-03-27T12:29:44 <ThomasWaldmann> and maybe no texture behind text, i think that causes these rough looking texts
98 2012-03-27T12:30:10 <ThomasWaldmann> (at least not behind IMPORTANT text, that people must read regularly)
99 2012-03-27T12:30:33 <jaiditya> yeah.
100 2012-03-27T12:30:57 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, sorry, have to excuse
101 2012-03-27T12:31:09 <ThomasWaldmann> the text on your screenshot does not look rough
102 2012-03-27T12:31:34 <ThomasWaldmann> but i was looking at a smaller preview shrinked down by firefox, THAT made it look rough, the original is ok
103 2012-03-27T12:32:06 <jaiditya> so its a screenshot of sidebar theme
104 2012-03-27T12:32:23 <jaiditya> we can do something for other themes also
105 2012-03-27T12:33:02 <jaiditya> it sort of gives a good user experience while working
106 2012-03-27T12:33:13 <ThomasWaldmann> for your application, maybe include some ideas how to systematically improve that
107 2012-03-27T12:33:26 <ThomasWaldmann> covering all the different aspects
108 2012-03-27T12:33:37 <jaiditya> ok
109 2012-03-27T12:33:40 <ThomasWaldmann> avoiding duplication (if possible)
110 2012-03-27T12:33:52 <jaiditya> yeah sure.
111 2012-03-27T12:33:52 <ThomasWaldmann> making it easy to adapt
112 2012-03-27T12:34:06 <ThomasWaldmann> did you look at stylus btw?
113 2012-03-27T12:34:20 <jaiditya> yeah i had a look at it
114 2012-03-27T12:34:26 <TheSheep> what happens when the page title is longer?
115 2012-03-27T12:35:23 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: bt not gone through it thoroughly.
116 2012-03-27T12:36:37 <ThomasWaldmann> i thought that we maybe can use it to structure it all much better
117 2012-03-27T12:37:05 <jaiditya> TheSheep: as per the links considered, we don't have any longer titles
118 2012-03-27T12:37:14 <ThomasWaldmann> as it can do inclusions, we could have a lot of css files, but still get 1 css file in the end for production
119 2012-03-27T12:37:31 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: yeah its good
120 2012-03-27T12:38:03 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: instead of many we can include all in just one
121 2012-03-27T12:38:23 <ThomasWaldmann> i am not sure about how the best structure looks like, though. maybe you can think about that.
122 2012-03-27T12:38:24 <TheSheep> jaiditya: how about in different languages?
123 2012-03-27T12:41:02 <ThomasWaldmann> (as a general comment: maybe not as much grey / greyish colours, it reminds somehow of german early winter weather :| )
124 2012-03-27T12:42:15 <TheSheep> more pink!
125 2012-03-27T12:42:26 <ThomasWaldmann> :P
126 2012-03-27T12:43:03 <ThomasWaldmann> if you e.g. look at twitter, that rather looks like summer - more inspiring, less depressing
127 2012-03-27T12:47:04 <jaiditya> TheSheep: just a min i m uploading a solution fr dt
128 2012-03-27T12:49:18 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: yeah i got your point
129 2012-03-27T12:50:21 <jaiditya> TheSheep: i guess this would work http://moinmo.in/JaidityaMathur layout2
130 2012-03-27T12:51:32 <ThomasWaldmann> try IfItIsMuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuchBiggerThanTheLimit
131 2012-03-27T12:53:13 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you did some other websites' design, maybe include some links in your application, if it is open source also to the html/css/etc.
132 2012-03-27T12:54:28 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: we can reduce the font size in that case after a limit. can't we ?
133 2012-03-27T12:54:44 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: k
134 2012-03-27T13:01:08 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe? or just make the html so it rearranges the boxes for such cases (e.g. put the pagename under the search field)
135 2012-03-27T13:02:42 <jaiditya> ok
136 2012-03-27T13:25:42 <MaikuMori> Hello, it seems like there are already people working on proposals for new themes (GSoC). Is there a chance that multiple students get accepted to work on themes or maybe I should look into some other project idea?
137 2012-03-27T13:32:04 <dreimark> MaikuMori: you can submit more than one proposal
138 2012-03-27T13:33:21 <MaikuMori> Alright, thank you.
139 2012-03-27T13:34:47 <dreimark> I am not sure without seeing a proposal that improving a theme needs the whole summer. So combining it with something else, e.g. improve some of the infrastructure or other relation anyway makes sense
140 2012-03-27T13:35:25 <MaikuMori> Yeah I was just thinking that you could make a theme in a lot shorter time.
141 2012-03-27T13:35:27 <dreimark> e.g. we need pagination on some other places in a well done way
142 2012-03-27T13:36:39 <dreimark> there is lots of stuff you can mention for working on, just try out the wiki I guess you see what needs work
143 2012-03-27T13:37:31 <MaikuMori> Yeah I'll get a bit more familiar with the codebase and crosscheck with the wiki, hopefully I'll come up with some ideas.
144 2012-03-27T13:52:14 *** brunomartin
145 2012-03-27T14:03:36 *** dwcramer
146 2012-03-27T14:53:57 *** dwcramer
147 2012-03-27T15:10:56 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Will I be able to modify my proposal after submitting?
148 2012-03-27T15:12:01 <DasIch> xiaq: you can change the proposal until the deadline is reached
149 2012-03-27T15:15:15 <xiaq> DasIch: Thx
150 2012-03-27T15:24:29 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: why are username and password required for moin1 syncronization? Isn't raw text enough? http://moinmo.in/HelpOnSynchronisation?action=raw
151 2012-03-27T15:33:14 *** bretonium
152 2012-03-27T15:34:18 *** bretonium
153 2012-03-27T15:35:16 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: well, you may need to authenticate to get the other wiki's content
154 2012-03-27T15:37:14 *** brunomartin
155 2012-03-27T15:37:15 <bretonium> hmm, is it configurable, whether to ask user or not about his login? If two names are clashed, how does moin1 behave now? Is history now getting synced?
156 2012-03-27T15:54:35 <dreimark> bretonium: because of xmlrpc
157 2012-03-27T15:55:21 <dreimark> and currently there are some issues with syncinc
158 2012-03-27T15:55:22 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: it only syncs latest page texts (so it is different from what we want for moin2)
159 2012-03-27T15:55:28 <dreimark> there are some bug reports
160 2012-03-27T15:55:34 <dreimark> for moin1
161 2012-03-27T15:55:36 <ThomasWaldmann> and i personally don't use it much
162 2012-03-27T15:55:59 <ThomasWaldmann> but if it would be more universal in moin2, i guess that would make many users very happy :)
163 2012-03-27T16:06:38 *** dwcramer
164 2012-03-27T16:14:29 *** DasIch_
165 2012-03-27T16:16:37 *** DasIch
166 2012-03-27T16:16:38 *** DasIch_
167 2012-03-27T16:24:46 *** RogerHaase
168 2012-03-27T16:27:02 <bretonium> http://moinmo.in/BorisBobrov/GSoC2012Application - a short draft which will be heavily edited tomorrow
169 2012-03-27T16:55:20 *** brunomartin
170 2012-03-27T17:16:59 *** _mayank
171 2012-03-27T17:19:04 *** _mayank
172 2012-03-27T17:20:37 <_mayank> Hi, I am Mayank. I am interested in contributing to MoinMoin through GSoC. I am interested in the project idea "moin 1.9 data cleanup". Though I know I am a bit late, but I still want to give it a try.
173 2012-03-27T17:25:35 <ThomasWaldmann> hi _mayank
174 2012-03-27T17:26:27 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: i think the best is if your create a wiki homepage on http://moinmo.in/ and a subpage Gsoc2012Application under your homepage.
175 2012-03-27T17:26:52 <ThomasWaldmann> if you like i can put ACLs on that subpage, so only you and the mentors can read it.
176 2012-03-27T17:27:17 <ThomasWaldmann> you could just work on your proposal there then and ask for feedback if you want some.
177 2012-03-27T17:28:43 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: maybe clarify what your part was with that site-catalog's development
178 2012-03-27T17:31:31 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: Ok, that sounds good. I will start on that.
179 2012-03-27T17:37:21 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: as you said, that still needs some work :)
180 2012-03-27T17:38:22 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: you have to consider that moin 1 and 2 are rather different, so you have to consider all use cases rather than just implementing same merge UI as in 1.9.
181 2012-03-27T17:39:25 <ThomasWaldmann> also maybe think through the stuff you propose again
182 2012-03-27T17:41:49 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: shall i put ACLs on the application page?
183 2012-03-27T17:44:40 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann : Yes, you can. homepage : MayankJuneja
184 2012-03-27T17:48:27 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann : I guess there shouldn't be any problems with letting the others read the discussions :) (in case you haven't put the ACL's yet)
185 2012-03-27T17:51:31 <_mayank> I will update the application page and we can discuss, if required
186 2012-03-27T18:32:32 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: moin
187 2012-03-27T18:45:21 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: I'm checking what we need in namespace, in that list in issue 81.
188 2012-03-27T18:58:52 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: http://moinmo.in/MayankJuneja/GSoC2012Application with acls now
189 2012-03-27T18:59:36 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: well, there is a slight problem. in case you put a lot of work into a great application, someone else could just copy it...
190 2012-03-27T19:00:22 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: Thanks a lot! You are correct, I have no issues with the acls.
191 2012-03-27T19:00:23 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: ok, if you want to discuss stuff, just ask
192 2012-03-27T19:00:36 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: In that list, in issue 81, #1 I think I have finished, I revised the docs and string... here (http://codereview.appspot.com/5376052/#ps13002). #2, #3 and #4 are done!
193 2012-03-27T19:00:47 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: yes!
194 2012-03-27T19:00:49 *** dwcramer
195 2012-03-27T19:00:51 <brunomartin> ;-)
196 2012-03-27T19:01:14 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: can I commit this: http://codereview.appspot.com/5376052/#ps13002
197 2012-03-27T19:01:26 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: which patchsets are new?
198 2012-03-27T19:01:31 *** bretonium
199 2012-03-27T19:01:46 <brunomartin> the last one... #7!
200 2012-03-27T19:02:30 <brunomartin> I kept one FIXME that I think we have to discuss...
201 2012-03-27T19:04:12 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: hmm, still finding issues
202 2012-03-27T19:04:39 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: no problem... just tell me! ;-)
203 2012-03-27T19:04:46 <ThomasWaldmann> http://codereview.appspot.com/5376052/diff/13002/MoinMoin/util/interwiki.py line 103 at the right
204 2012-03-27T19:05:02 <ThomasWaldmann> ns3 is not a namespace, obviously, right?
205 2012-03-27T19:05:02 <brunomartin> I have some hours today to finish this....
206 2012-03-27T19:05:23 <ThomasWaldmann> neither is ns2: in line 104
207 2012-03-27T19:05:43 <ThomasWaldmann> so use foo: and bar: ? :)
208 2012-03-27T19:06:05 <ThomasWaldmann> or item:name ?
209 2012-03-27T19:07:49 <brunomartin> ok...
210 2012-03-27T19:08:44 *** _mayank
211 2012-03-27T19:09:24 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: anything else?
212 2012-03-27T19:12:31 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: well, just from reading it: no. I assume tests work and the wiki and you also did some practical tests on the wiki?
213 2012-03-27T19:12:46 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: yep
214 2012-03-27T19:13:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, commit :)
215 2012-03-27T19:14:02 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: \o/
216 2012-03-27T19:14:11 * ThomasWaldmann needs to leave soon, but I'll be online from hackspace.de again :)
217 2012-03-27T19:14:22 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm shackspace.de ...
218 2012-03-27T19:15:48 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: so, in issue 81, with this commit, #1 is solved! :-) so, I will face #9 and #10 on that list, ok?
219 2012-03-27T19:15:59 <brunomartin> 9- make a view that shows "0 name" items (using the parent revision's NAME) == trashbin
220 2012-03-27T19:16:05 <brunomartin> 10- offer undelete on the trashbin view
221 2012-03-27T19:17:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, feel free :)
222 2012-03-27T19:18:10 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, 5 ?
223 2012-03-27T19:18:59 <ThomasWaldmann> 5 would maybe better fit your previous work, brunomartin
224 2012-03-27T19:19:34 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, need to go, bbl
225 2012-03-27T19:35:56 *** _mayank
226 2012-03-27T19:48:02 *** greg_f
227 2012-03-27T20:19:21 *** dwcramer
228 2012-03-27T20:21:55 *** dave_largo
229 2012-03-27T20:43:23 *** TTTT_
230 2012-03-27T20:43:58 *** MattMaker
231 2012-03-27T20:45:12 <TTTT_> _mayank: ?
232 2012-03-27T20:45:20 *** TTTT_
233 2012-03-27T20:47:57 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: I have edited the application page. moinmo.in/MayankJuneja/GSoC2012Application. I have started exploring the code, do you have any suggestions about how to start?
234 2012-03-27T20:50:41 <dreimark> _mayank: look into the cleanup festures of the moin command. For starting, there is more what one wants. just think on wikis with a long history started from version 0.1
235 2012-03-27T20:52:21 <dreimark> of course we will only migrate from 1.9 to 2.0 but that should give an idea what all can be done
236 2012-03-27T20:54:32 <dreimark> brb
237 2012-03-27T20:55:54 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: also consider merging multiple user_dirs into one, edit history, ...
238 2012-03-27T20:58:42 <_mayank> dreimark: Ok, I will look at the older versions, to get a feel of the evolution.
239 2012-03-27T20:59:56 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: I have listed these tasks in the Application page, will add more details soon.
240 2012-03-27T21:01:28 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: btw, anything against a merge now?
241 2012-03-27T21:07:39 *** brunomartin
242 2012-03-27T21:09:21 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1313:4ce43f664d82 2.0/docs/devel/development.rst: docs: updated development docs
243 2012-03-27T21:09:21 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1314:7ca1cab62e38 2.0/docs/devel/support.rst: docs: updated support docs
244 2012-03-27T21:12:10 *** dwcramer
245 2012-03-27T21:24:58 <dreimark> _mayank: also think on what to do with long time ago disabled user accounts
246 2012-03-27T21:34:29 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: try 2 at removing unused CSS: http://codereview.appspot.com/5901048/
247 2012-03-27T21:34:35 *** _mayank
248 2012-03-27T21:36:55 *** _mayank
249 2012-03-27T21:44:08 *** dwcramer
250 2012-03-27T21:50:20 *** brunomartin
251 2012-03-27T22:05:31 *** dave_largo
252 2012-03-27T22:18:49 <dreimark> _mayank: is there any CTF contest during summer of code timeline?
253 2012-03-27T22:20:21 <_mayank> dreimark: No. I am not aware of any.
254 2012-03-27T22:21:07 <dreimark> good, I had already a student who did (tried) parallel a CTF contest and gsoc.
255 2012-03-27T22:27:06 <sudo_dirk> moin. just a quick one. is there a moin or python function for escaping filenames for popen?
256 2012-03-27T22:27:19 <dreimark> taintfilename
257 2012-03-27T22:27:24 <dreimark> or similiar
258 2012-03-27T22:28:26 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: i readed a bit about that pjpeg ms issue. but had not much time today. will look tom at your cr
259 2012-03-27T22:29:20 <sudo_dirk> thats not a big deal. i only added pjpeg to the known mimetypes. it does the same than jpeg
260 2012-03-27T22:29:25 <_mayank> dreimark: I looked at the moin 0.1 source. I just had a quick view. I could see the major differences in the current versions like Revisions/versions, locking, attachments,..
261 2012-03-27T22:29:26 *** brunomartin
262 2012-03-27T22:30:17 <dreimark> _mayank: all those people have migrated to newer versions, (hopefully) so you could just have something left over. Or a rather very long history because of lots of changes
263 2012-03-27T22:33:33 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: i mean a function converting test(2f)page/attachments/file.ext to test\(2f\)page/attachments/file.ext
264 2012-03-27T22:34:22 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: use ""
265 2012-03-27T22:34:55 <dreimark> "test(2f)page/attachments/file.ext"
266 2012-03-27T22:35:56 <sudo_dirk> thanks. some things are so easy :P
267 2012-03-27T22:36:14 <dreimark> Stephan sended that by g+ http://www.clicktorelease.com/code/css3dclouds/#
268 2012-03-27T22:39:36 <jaiditya> dreimark: what do you think about using nib for further simplification of CSS ?
269 2012-03-27T22:40:48 <sudo_dirk> am i right saying it is not ok if stderr from popen has output when calling a system function?
270 2012-03-27T22:42:07 <CIA-41> Bruno Martin <bruno.martin@hacklab.com.br> namespaces * 1315:005e12de8b6a 2.0/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): interwiki and namespaces related url generation and split adapted to namespaces. Proper documentation still missing.
271 2012-03-27T22:42:40 <ThomasWaldmann> hi RogerHaase
272 2012-03-27T22:43:14 <RogerHaase> moin :)
273 2012-03-27T22:48:09 <dreimark> jaiditya: principle ok, we needd to know if it is not too simplified that it makes issues with some browsers
274 2012-03-27T22:48:24 <dreimark> somtimes I wonder what and how it is implemented
275 2012-03-27T22:50:19 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: reinvent util.SubProcess
276 2012-03-27T22:50:29 <dreimark> +don't
277 2012-03-27T22:51:39 <jaiditya> dreimark: I have not implemented it and i am working on it for that and browser support.
278 2012-03-27T22:52:36 <dreimark> keep an eye in general on licenses, it should be GPLV2+ compatible
279 2012-03-27T22:53:07 <jaiditya> ok
280 2012-03-27T22:54:01 * dreimark has added some potential students to the wikis TrustedEditorGroup
281 2012-03-27T22:57:44 *** brunomartin
282 2012-03-27T22:59:53 <dreimark> gn
283 2012-03-27T23:00:19 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: looks ok. all numbers are monospace now?
284 2012-03-27T23:00:59 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: working on issue 81, item #5 (I accepted your suggestion...)
285 2012-03-27T23:08:09 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: i'll try merging default into namespaces now...
286 2012-03-27T23:08:43 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: great!
287 2012-03-27T23:09:58 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: there is one last commit in my repo...
288 2012-03-27T23:10:14 <brunomartin> with the changes we discussed today...
289 2012-03-27T23:10:26 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldman: Not defined as monospace, but appear as monospace on W/7. Change was to align right as in http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/%2Badmin/itemsize (new fix) and http://test.moinmo.in/+history/Home (old example)
290 2012-03-27T23:11:47 <RogerHaase> html { color: black; font-family: sans-serif; }
291 2012-03-27T23:13:28 *** _mayank
292 2012-03-27T23:14:10 *** halo
293 2012-03-27T23:16:18 *** halo
294 2012-03-27T23:19:24 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: wikipedia says: many proportional fonts contain fixed-width (tabular) figures so that columns of numbers stay aligned
295 2012-03-27T23:20:38 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: I had a look at the earlier versions moin 0.1, 1.9 and compared how the data is stored with moin2. Correct me if I am wrong, we are aiming to have migration tools from old data formats to new ones.
296 2012-03-27T23:21:50 <ThomasWaldmann> _mayank: there are already mig scripts, your primary objective would be not to migrate crap
297 2012-03-27T23:22:09 <ThomasWaldmann> and also that user mixing
298 2012-03-27T23:22:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (which is not quite quite crap, but rather diverging user bases)
299 2012-03-27T23:23:49 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: well, maybe many, but not what we used. that css class exists because the hex stuff looked crappy. ok, maybe only digits are fixed with, but not a-f
300 2012-03-27T23:30:02 <_mayank> ThomasWaldmann: I need to spend some more time with the code. Will update you accordingly.
301 2012-03-27T23:30:14 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldman: the change does not affect hex numbers, just normal base 10. The Rev. column in the example page was already monospace. The only column affected was Size.
302 2012-03-27T23:32:00 <sudo_dirk> gn8 together
303 2012-03-27T23:32:52 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: when we talk about browser support. upto which extent we should go ?
304 2012-03-27T23:34:29 <ThomasWaldmann> jaiditya: you can ignore ie6
305 2012-03-27T23:35:44 <ThomasWaldmann> is ie8 what you get with a full patched and updated win xp?
306 2012-03-27T23:36:30 *** jaiditya|2
307 2012-03-27T23:36:33 <ThomasWaldmann> (in general i would not put too much effort into IE compatibility. maybe just do not break it without good reason.)
308 2012-03-27T23:37:01 <jaiditya|2> ok
309 2012-03-27T23:37:50 *** MattMaker
310 2012-03-27T23:38:30 *** jaiditya
311 2012-03-27T23:39:17 *** jaiditya|2
312 2012-03-27T23:39:26 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: looks like it survived the merge
313 2012-03-27T23:39:58 <brunomartin> yeah!!! :-D
314 2012-03-27T23:41:47 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: but when we talk about html5 and CSS3 even IE8 fails .
315 2012-03-27T23:42:27 <ThomasWaldmann> fails with what?
316 2012-03-27T23:42:59 <ThomasWaldmann> (it's always the question whether something important is missing)
317 2012-03-27T23:43:14 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: pushed to https://bitbucket.org/RogerHaase/moin-2.0
318 2012-03-27T23:45:32 <jaiditya> like IE8 does not support many HTML5 features and CSS3 transitions n many more.
319 2012-03-27T23:48:35 <jaiditya> basically i was looking for multiple backgrounds bt can't use is as of now due to browser support.
320 2012-03-27T23:49:25 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> namespaces * 1316:7657798d40f3 2.0/ (99 files in 24 dirs): merged default branch into namespaces branch
321 2012-03-27T23:49:49 <ThomasWaldmann> jaiditya: then the theme will just look a bit simpler, but still basically work, right?
322 2012-03-27T23:50:19 <jaiditya> yeah.
323 2012-03-27T23:50:44 <ThomasWaldmann> that's not a problem then
324 2012-03-27T23:51:08 <ThomasWaldmann> if you use a crap browser and still get something that works, is just a bit less pretty than usual, you can be happy :)
325 2012-03-27T23:52:29 <jaiditya> no its not a problem. n creating someting which is basic yet attractive is the main.
326 2012-03-27T23:52:46 <jaiditya> aim
