1 2011-12-30T01:30:59 *** qxcv
2 2011-12-30T02:01:46 *** bilal
3 2011-12-30T02:42:04 *** bilal
4 2011-12-30T02:54:06 *** bilal
5 2011-12-30T02:56:22 *** Guest97722
6 2011-12-30T03:00:19 *** Guest97722
7 2011-12-30T03:00:19 *** Guest97722
8 2011-12-30T03:13:39 *** Guest97722
9 2011-12-30T04:59:29 *** bilal_
10 2011-12-30T05:00:26 *** bilal
11 2011-12-30T05:00:26 *** bilal_
12 2011-12-30T07:40:35 *** moin5
13 2011-12-30T07:42:23 <moin5> hi all
14 2011-12-30T07:59:05 <moin5> i have question
15 2011-12-30T07:59:08 <moin5> can somebody help me
16 2011-12-30T08:24:23 <dreimark> moin5: answered
17 2011-12-30T08:24:53 <dreimark> i mean that could have been the answer of your question, don't ask to ask
18 2011-12-30T08:25:41 <dreimark> you need to be also patient because we sometime have to do some other stuff too
19 2011-12-30T08:31:18 *** exhuma
20 2011-12-30T08:32:27 <exhuma> Hi
21 2011-12-30T08:32:52 <exhuma> I was wondering: what's the rationale behind not using a "normal" bugtracker?
22 2011-12-30T08:35:24 <moin5> dreimark: ok
23 2011-12-30T08:35:28 <moin5> i got this task
24 2011-12-30T08:35:29 <moin5> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7159202
25 2011-12-30T08:35:48 <moin5> and downloaded https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/downloads
26 2011-12-30T08:35:52 <moin5> now that?
27 2011-12-30T08:36:58 <dreimark> please join #moin-dev
28 2011-12-30T08:37:18 <moin5> isn't that #moin-dev ?
29 2011-12-30T08:37:50 <dreimark> ah yes, sorry my mistake
30 2011-12-30T08:37:54 <dreimark> too much windows
31 2011-12-30T08:38:10 <dreimark> docs are documented on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0
32 2011-12-30T08:38:33 <dreimark> e.g. http://readthedocs.org/docs/moin-20/en/latest/admin/install.html
33 2011-12-30T08:38:35 <moin5> ok :)
34 2011-12-30T08:39:11 <dreimark> you can also fork it on bitbucket
35 2011-12-30T08:39:35 <dreimark> and then install it from your fork
36 2011-12-30T08:39:53 <dreimark> that makes later the workflow process a bit simpler
37 2011-12-30T08:53:27 <dreimark> bbl
38 2011-12-30T08:54:29 <qxcv> dreimark: with rst lists, they shouldn't require a space before each line
39 2011-12-30T08:54:39 <qxcv> does this make it a mointodo rather than an rsttodo?
40 2011-12-30T09:11:21 <qxcv> actually, nevermind. it's neither a mointodo nor an rsttodo - rst doesn't require a space before list items and because moin uses the standard docutils reference implementation it parses RST perfectly
41 2011-12-30T09:14:04 * qxcv fixes rst docs
42 2011-12-30T10:47:44 *** greg_f
43 2011-12-30T12:23:57 <moin5> is that the css of default theme
44 2011-12-30T12:23:58 <moin5> MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/
45 2011-12-30T12:24:20 <moin5> ?
46 2011-12-30T13:05:08 *** marchael
47 2011-12-30T13:05:19 *** marchael
48 2011-12-30T13:09:04 <exhuma> moin5: I think the default for 1.9.3 is "modern". "modernized" is a nice alternative.
49 2011-12-30T13:09:14 *** exhuma
50 2011-12-30T13:10:08 <moin5> i have to search for unused css's in default theme
51 2011-12-30T13:10:15 <moin5> is that default theme?
52 2011-12-30T13:10:16 <moin5> MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/
53 2011-12-30T13:20:22 <TheSheep> yes
54 2011-12-30T13:31:14 *** qxcv
55 2011-12-30T13:35:00 *** dave_largo
56 2011-12-30T13:35:38 <moin5> which python files are using css?
57 2011-12-30T13:44:37 *** qxcv
58 2011-12-30T13:47:32 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
59 2011-12-30T13:47:58 <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: in moin-2.0 the css is usually used from the html templates
60 2011-12-30T13:48:08 <moin5> only there?
61 2011-12-30T13:48:43 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe search for stuff like class=... or class_=... or css_class=... in the python src
62 2011-12-30T13:48:53 <moin5> yeah i know
63 2011-12-30T13:48:59 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe use some great regex :)
64 2011-12-30T13:49:16 <moin5> should i do it only for one version or for all?
65 2011-12-30T13:49:30 <ThomasWaldmann> only moin 2
66 2011-12-30T13:49:39 <moin5> ok :)
67 2011-12-30T13:49:41 <moin5> thanks
68 2011-12-30T13:50:35 *** exhuma
69 2011-12-30T13:56:03 <dreimark> exhuma: don't confuse the gci student he works on moin2
70 2011-12-30T13:59:55 <dreimark> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann comments to http://moinmo.in/More%20Images%20for%20linking%20to%20MoinMoin
71 2011-12-30T14:01:49 <dreimark> now he has plenty of time
72 2011-12-30T14:01:57 <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7125294
73 2011-12-30T14:02:00 <dreimark> or we ...
74 2011-12-30T14:02:03 <exhuma> dreimark: Okay. I was not shure which version he was talking about. Which is why I added 1.9.3 to the message ;)
75 2011-12-30T14:02:24 <dreimark> exhuma: developing is done these days on moin2
76 2011-12-30T14:03:05 <exhuma> I'm fairly new to moin ;)
77 2011-12-30T14:03:30 <dreimark> exhuma:you are a python developer ? we want you :)
78 2011-12-30T14:04:32 <exhuma> So I heard ;)
79 2011-12-30T14:04:37 <exhuma> And I like moin
80 2011-12-30T14:04:43 <exhuma> ... and I like sphinx
81 2011-12-30T14:04:49 <exhuma> so we#re off to a good start ;)
82 2011-12-30T14:05:14 <exhuma> unfortunately, I am currently working on a priority project...
83 2011-12-30T14:05:16 <moin5> what should that class return? <span class="moin-history-{{ meta.action|lower }}"></span>
84 2011-12-30T14:05:22 * ThomasWaldmann will make a small moin2 get together ("workshop") today at 28c3
85 2011-12-30T14:05:27 <exhuma> So my time is a bit limited in the coming weeks.
86 2011-12-30T14:05:50 <exhuma> ThomasWaldmann: 28c3?
87 2011-12-30T14:05:59 <ThomasWaldmann> google it :)
88 2011-12-30T14:06:03 <dreimark> exhuma: google it
89 2011-12-30T14:06:10 * ThomasWaldmann was first :P
90 2011-12-30T14:06:23 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: you were a second faster than me also with the deadline extension
91 2011-12-30T14:06:34 <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: likely action is something like "diff" or "show" or so
92 2011-12-30T14:06:41 <moin5> ok
93 2011-12-30T14:06:47 <ThomasWaldmann> so the class is moin-history-diff etc.
94 2011-12-30T14:07:04 * dreimark looks at qxcv taks
95 2011-12-30T14:07:15 <exhuma> ThomasWaldmann: oh... I see... :)
96 2011-12-30T14:07:46 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, there is some guy interested in moin2 debian packaging, had a nice chat here with him
97 2011-12-30T14:08:36 <dreimark> there was a debian moin maintainer at the pyconde - he liked the idea of xstatic
98 2011-12-30T14:08:57 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, right, we need that also then :)
99 2011-12-30T14:09:12 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe they can work together
100 2011-12-30T14:09:19 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you remember his name?
101 2011-12-30T14:09:49 <dreimark> currently i have a picture of him in my brain, name comes later
102 2011-12-30T14:17:20 <dreimark> qxcv: I am happy, you are done
103 2011-12-30T14:17:52 <qxcv> dreimark: ty
104 2011-12-30T14:45:07 <qxcv> looking at https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/34/pre-sections
105 2011-12-30T14:45:28 <qxcv> @mentors, would I be able to open a gci task and try and solve that issue?
106 2011-12-30T14:45:28 <moinBot> qxcv: Error: "mentors," is not a valid command.
107 2011-12-30T14:56:14 *** RogerHaase
108 2011-12-30T15:03:23 <RogerHaase> moin5: In addition to looking at code to find unused CSS, you may want to look at a Firefox plugin "CSS Usage". There may be other tools, I have not looked in the past year.
109 2011-12-30T15:18:13 *** qxcv
110 2011-12-30T15:26:37 <eSyr> "ELEVATOR SPEECH FOR MOIMMOIM2"
111 2011-12-30T15:37:17 <xorAxAx> moim moim!
112 2011-12-30T15:37:21 <xorAxAx> from 28c3
113 2011-12-30T15:42:28 <dreimark> moinBot: xorAxAx
114 2011-12-30T15:42:28 <moinBot> dreimark: Error: "xorAxAx" is not a valid command.
115 2011-12-30T15:42:38 <dreimark> moin xorAxAx
116 2011-12-30T15:53:34 <moin5> RogerHaase: i have to search for unused css only at /templates folder right?
117 2011-12-30T15:55:57 <dreimark> eSyr: docx
118 2011-12-30T15:56:58 <eSyr> ehrrrrm.
119 2011-12-30T15:57:12 <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7130526
120 2011-12-30T15:57:25 <eSyr> ah.
121 2011-12-30T15:57:25 <dreimark> and if i look on that http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/create%20elevator%20speeches/YourName
122 2011-12-30T15:57:35 <eSyr> yes.
123 2011-12-30T15:57:43 <eSyr> i read my mail :)
124 2011-12-30T15:57:47 <dreimark> it is not much about moin2
125 2011-12-30T15:57:58 <dreimark> ok
126 2011-12-30T15:58:39 * eSyr is thinking is it good idea doing moin2 ad in style of extreme advertisement
127 2011-12-30T15:58:51 <dreimark> Therefore I suggest to by Moimmoin 2 instead of going anywhere else.
128 2011-12-30T15:59:23 <dreimark> does he mean s/by/buy/ ?
129 2011-12-30T15:59:29 <dreimark> and then makes this also no sense
130 2011-12-30T16:00:43 <eSyr> hehe, lets make retail boxes with moin2!
131 2011-12-30T16:02:07 * eSyr read this elevator speech
132 2011-12-30T16:02:28 <eSyr> it's really some soft version of http://s.lurkmore.to/images/7/7a/Atomad.jpg or so.
133 2011-12-30T16:02:38 <dreimark> lots of typos
134 2011-12-30T16:08:43 * dreimark added some comments
135 2011-12-30T16:10:28 <RogerHaase> moin5: /templates is a start. But there will be more css classes mixed within the codebase. There are a few documented pass throughs "{{{#!wiki yellow\nyyy\n}}}" that will not be in the codebase (yellow becomes a class).
136 2011-12-30T16:11:50 <dreimark> moin5: please read the task again
137 2011-12-30T16:12:02 <moin5> ok :)
138 2011-12-30T16:12:16 <moin5> could you specify some folders?
139 2011-12-30T16:12:20 <moin5> where to search
140 2011-12-30T16:13:06 <moin5> for css ?
141 2011-12-30T16:13:40 <dreimark> Firefox plugin "CSS Usage"
142 2011-12-30T16:14:16 <dreimark> search for js ,html, css files
143 2011-12-30T16:15:08 <dreimark> e.g. find MoinMoin/. | grep .js$
144 2011-12-30T16:17:38 <RogerHaase> moin5: Note the CSS Usage tool requires a set of input wiki pages. You may have to create wiki pages that will exercise the css.
145 2011-12-30T16:18:20 <moin5> i am trying go do all manualy by hand
146 2011-12-30T16:21:06 <dreimark> moin5: RogerHaase please read the taks description
147 2011-12-30T16:21:22 <RogerHaase> Check if there is some tool that can automatically check stuff like this. If you can't find some tool, do 2 systematic manual checks.
148 2011-12-30T16:22:04 <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7159202
149 2011-12-30T16:22:29 <moin5> my mistake
150 2011-12-30T16:22:33 <dreimark> i refer more to the two lines above
151 2011-12-30T16:22:45 <dreimark> and to deliverables
152 2011-12-30T16:25:58 *** RogerHaase
153 2011-12-30T16:39:46 *** greg_f
154 2011-12-30T16:43:10 <moin5> dreimark?
155 2011-12-30T16:43:18 <moin5> are you my mentor at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7159202
156 2011-12-30T16:43:22 <dreimark> yes?
157 2011-12-30T16:43:29 <dreimark> yes
158 2011-12-30T16:43:43 <moin5> i forgot to tell you to cancel my upload
159 2011-12-30T16:43:44 <moin5> :)
160 2011-12-30T16:43:53 <dreimark> no problem
161 2011-12-30T17:19:05 *** exhuma
162 2011-12-30T18:44:53 <dreimark> OMG me wonders about elevator speech
163 2011-12-30T18:44:56 <dreimark> bbl
164 2011-12-30T18:46:18 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the elevator speech student queried me some h ago and he should know already some basic things to improve
165 2011-12-30T20:06:38 *** MattMaker
166 2011-12-30T20:12:35 *** eSyr
167 2011-12-30T20:16:28 *** eSyr
168 2011-12-30T20:16:35 *** moin5
169 2011-12-30T20:22:12 *** xjjk
170 2011-12-30T20:23:54 *** xjjk
171 2011-12-30T20:27:00 *** dave_largo
172 2011-12-30T20:27:01 *** ChanServ
173 2011-12-30T20:27:03 *** izibi
174 2011-12-30T20:27:04 *** ThomasWaldmann
175 2011-12-30T20:27:48 *** dave_largo
176 2011-12-30T20:27:48 *** izibi
177 2011-12-30T20:27:48 *** ThomasWaldmann
178 2011-12-30T20:27:48 *** ChanServ
179 2011-12-30T20:27:48 *** adams.freenode.net
180 2011-12-30T21:34:12 *** RogerHaase
181 2011-12-30T21:41:10 *** dave_largo
182 2011-12-30T23:12:05 *** RogerHaase
183 2011-12-30T23:18:31 <dreimark> re
184 2011-12-30T23:42:12 <dreimark> re
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