1 2011-12-02T00:23:55 *** raignarok
2 2011-12-02T00:42:48 *** qxcv
3 2011-12-02T00:58:21 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: i think i rather would not accept that student who wants to do finnish without being a native speaker. that hindi GT-based translation was already a pain on the hindi mentor side and this is looking like getting worse.
4 2011-12-02T01:02:40 <ThomasWaldmann> also, there might be other finnish students much more suitable for the task.
5 2011-12-02T01:14:33 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1113:b172baf033db 2.0/docs/devel/ (support.rst translate.rst): docs: proofread and fix devel/support and devel/translate, thanks to DJ_DENT (GCI)
6 2011-12-02T01:35:08 *** moin8
7 2011-12-02T04:56:44 *** jek
8 2011-12-02T05:03:04 *** jek
9 2011-12-02T07:13:35 *** greg_f
10 2011-12-02T07:35:49 *** pkumar
11 2011-12-02T08:06:10 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: well, and where are they? :) But yeah, hindi translation was a trouble.
12 2011-12-02T08:33:10 <pkumar> eSyr : abt hindi translation, I doubt if he was a native Hindi speaker
13 2011-12-02T08:34:39 <eSyr> hehe.
14 2011-12-02T08:34:48 <pkumar> :D
15 2011-12-02T08:37:42 <eSyr> (but anyway, we can accept claim on basis "do first iteration, if there not so much mistakes, we can continue")
16 2011-12-02T08:38:28 <eSyr> i think it was my mistake try to force student to finish hi translation -_-
17 2011-12-02T08:39:56 <eSyr> *trying
18 2011-12-02T08:40:24 <pkumar> anyhow, we have Hindi translations now ;)
19 2011-12-02T09:54:16 *** pkumar
20 2011-12-02T10:13:43 *** raignarok
21 2011-12-02T10:24:48 *** raignarok
22 2011-12-02T11:07:12 *** grzywacz
23 2011-12-02T11:07:12 *** grzywacz
24 2011-12-02T11:26:24 *** raignarok
25 2011-12-02T12:00:15 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
26 2011-12-02T12:01:56 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: maybe consider that it might be better for everybody to just say "no" at the beginning. if the student has done his first iteration, he is likely feeling "i am 99% done now" and will be unhappy if he has to do many more iterations or if you say "no way, that's too bad"
27 2011-12-02T13:10:33 *** raignarok
28 2011-12-02T14:14:47 <dreimark> Thommoin
29 2011-12-02T14:15:52 * dreimark new word
30 2011-12-02T14:15:56 <dreimark> moin
31 2011-12-02T14:17:14 *** pkumar
32 2011-12-02T14:31:26 * ThomasWaldmann reviews the proofread results
33 2011-12-02T14:32:25 *** dave_largo
34 2011-12-02T14:38:41 *** grzywacz
35 2011-12-02T14:43:46 *** qxcv
36 2011-12-02T15:31:50 *** dave_largo
37 2011-12-02T16:18:21 *** grzywacz
38 2011-12-02T16:18:22 *** grzywacz
39 2011-12-02T17:18:22 *** RogerHaase
40 2011-12-02T17:52:37 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: hi, can you please put the result of the hi tasks onto master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/hi ?
41 2011-12-02T17:54:31 <pkumar> ok, sure
42 2011-12-02T17:57:08 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : I see the translations there already, are they previously done?
43 2011-12-02T17:58:27 <pkumar> or are they from this time?
44 2011-12-02T17:59:11 <pkumar> I mean the latest ones?
45 2011-12-02T18:04:50 <ThomasWaldmann> the task was to update this translation
46 2011-12-02T18:06:42 <ThomasWaldmann> and if you click on "info" link there, you see the history
47 2011-12-02T18:11:09 *** raignarok
48 2011-12-02T18:11:19 <pkumar> ah! so I need to update the "Gettext status messages" there right? how do I put the result there exactly?
49 2011-12-02T18:11:28 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann ^
50 2011-12-02T18:20:05 *** joancreus
51 2011-12-02T18:20:56 <pkumar> Also, do I need a different account to login in there?
52 2011-12-02T18:21:22 <pkumar> because my normal MoinMoin account seems not to be working htere
53 2011-12-02T18:21:28 <pkumar> there*
54 2011-12-02T18:21:55 <ThomasWaldmann> this is a different wiki, so you need an account there, just create one
55 2011-12-02T18:22:55 <ThomasWaldmann> you can then use "Load" to load the hi.po file into a new revision
56 2011-12-02T18:25:53 <ThomasWaldmann> hi joancreus
57 2011-12-02T18:25:58 <joancreus> hi
58 2011-12-02T18:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> what is editing with shortcuts exactly about?
59 2011-12-02T18:26:43 <pkumar> ok
60 2011-12-02T18:26:49 <joancreus> ThomasWaldmann: a proposal by (i think) TheSheep
61 2011-12-02T18:26:54 <joancreus> to improve the UI
62 2011-12-02T18:27:01 <joancreus> s/with/without
63 2011-12-02T18:29:42 <ThomasWaldmann> url?
64 2011-12-02T18:30:20 <joancreus> ThomasWaldmann: melange isn't specific.
65 2011-12-02T18:30:34 <joancreus> ThomasWaldmann: he told me on the IRC as a proposal for an "open" task related to usability
66 2011-12-02T18:32:25 <ThomasWaldmann> well, as long as you won't tell details, you will have to wait for TheSheep
67 2011-12-02T18:33:21 <joancreus> ThomasWaldmann: i don't know many details :(
68 2011-12-02T18:54:18 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinPagesEditorGroup you maybe need to add your name there
69 2011-12-02T19:07:15 <pkumar> done!
70 2011-12-02T19:08:11 <ThomasWaldmann> \o/
71 2011-12-02T19:08:51 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, you meant adding your name :)
72 2011-12-02T19:09:42 <pkumar> yeah, will add hindi translations just now
73 2011-12-02T19:20:58 *** NikitaUtiu
74 2011-12-02T19:25:50 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: you've seen the issues?
75 2011-12-02T19:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> (this is why the student should do that...)
76 2011-12-02T19:27:03 <pkumar> in that page, yeah. four errors. I doubt if it is due to usage of improper "/" char
77 2011-12-02T19:27:50 <ThomasWaldmann> \अपने
78 2011-12-02T19:28:25 <pkumar> woops, its "\" char
79 2011-12-02T19:28:36 <pkumar> yeah, similar at other places.
80 2011-12-02T19:28:43 <pkumar> lemme just correct them and see
81 2011-12-02T19:29:32 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, moin! did you get to check my code i sent yesterday?
82 2011-12-02T19:30:11 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you just give an url, you can make me much more productive :)
83 2011-12-02T19:30:20 *** dave_largo
84 2011-12-02T19:31:55 <NikitaUtiu> a, sure :D http://codereview.appspot.com/5440076
85 2011-12-02T19:33:33 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: btw, google translate makes such mistakes with introducing blanks at inappropriate places
86 2011-12-02T19:34:28 <pkumar> hmm, probability of gt usages
87 2011-12-02T19:35:58 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: looks good. if one looks at the attribute names that are used within the cookie, a pattern emerges.
88 2011-12-02T19:36:34 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you could use same pattern. and then it would be just userobj.secret, not userobj.user_secret. :)
89 2011-12-02T19:36:59 <ThomasWaldmann> and 'user.secret' as cookie key name
90 2011-12-02T19:37:08 <NikitaUtiu> aha
91 2011-12-02T19:37:12 <pkumar> we've more undesirable messages now
92 2011-12-02T19:38:25 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, so you mean that the 'user' in 'userobj.user_secret' is redundant? that's what you mean isn't it?
93 2011-12-02T19:38:42 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
94 2011-12-02T19:39:01 <ThomasWaldmann> brought to use by the redundant redundancy department.
95 2011-12-02T19:39:03 <ThomasWaldmann> us*
96 2011-12-02T19:39:35 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: 236 there is a s missing after %(owner)
97 2011-12-02T19:39:36 <NikitaUtiu> redundantly :D. yeah, i'll change it in a sec
98 2011-12-02T19:39:57 <pkumar> ah!
99 2011-12-02T19:42:14 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: btw, that error was not present in the previous revisions of the hi translation
100 2011-12-02T19:42:49 <pkumar> yeah, it was not. its just in this revision
101 2011-12-02T19:43:03 <ThomasWaldmann> so he made existing translations worse
102 2011-12-02T19:43:20 <ThomasWaldmann> at least from a python POV
103 2011-12-02T19:43:53 <ThomasWaldmann> also, the header is still saying "MoinMoin 1.6"
104 2011-12-02T19:44:34 <pkumar> should be 1.9 right?
105 2011-12-02T19:44:40 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
106 2011-12-02T19:45:07 <ThomasWaldmann> you can look at .../de for some hopefully better example
107 2011-12-02T19:45:38 <ThomasWaldmann> (the untranslated stuff there is stuff not needing translation btw)
108 2011-12-02T19:46:20 <pkumar> I think I should once give a try to fix at least the python errors.
109 2011-12-02T19:46:36 <ThomasWaldmann> so, we now know how to check for machine translation. just look if \X and %(foo)s are right.
110 2011-12-02T19:47:29 <pkumar> also it seems like msgid and msgstr should end in the same way i.e. if both are ending with "\n" or not.
111 2011-12-02T19:47:43 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
112 2011-12-02T19:48:22 * ThomasWaldmann just tried GT with that sentence and german. GT fail.
113 2011-12-02T19:49:47 * ThomasWaldmann driving home.
114 2011-12-02T19:51:01 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, http://codereview.appspot.com/5449069 the new issue
115 2011-12-02T19:56:46 *** raignarok
116 2011-12-02T20:11:42 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : all fixed except one sentence, which is not complete. I tried to translate with gt 'one word at a time' but doesn't work properly.
117 2011-12-02T20:12:24 <pkumar> one %s is missing there including the translation for a sentence.
118 2011-12-02T20:13:34 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: it would be great if you could bring it into at least "valid po, valid python" state
119 2011-12-02T20:13:57 <ThomasWaldmann> otherwise I will run into issues next time i update translations in the repo
120 2011-12-02T20:15:11 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : can you just have a look at line 3171.
121 2011-12-02T20:15:23 <pkumar> do we need the %s there?
122 2011-12-02T20:15:47 <pkumar> at the end
123 2011-12-02T20:16:34 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: see there
124 2011-12-02T20:17:31 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: sure. if it is in the original string, we also need it in the translation.
125 2011-12-02T20:19:17 <pkumar> hmm, ok. so we need a hindi sentence to add that %s with that. A hindi sentence is missing there. I'll add one sentence using gt 'one word at a time' but that wont be perfect, but it should remove the error from there
126 2011-12-02T20:20:39 <joancreus> TheSheep ?
127 2011-12-02T20:21:33 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: i have no idea what the problem is.
128 2011-12-02T20:21:51 <pkumar> ok, ill try to fix it
129 2011-12-02T20:35:39 <pkumar> 938 translated messages.
130 2011-12-02T20:36:26 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann ^
131 2011-12-02T20:38:59 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: can you fix 16?
132 2011-12-02T20:40:07 <pkumar> what about it? It says X-Lnaguage...
133 2011-12-02T20:40:44 <ThomasWaldmann> translate "Hindi" to Hindi
134 2011-12-02T20:41:51 <pkumar> both the "Hindi" words in Hindi?
135 2011-12-02T20:44:53 <ThomasWaldmann> _("Hindi")
136 2011-12-02T20:53:13 <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann : can please check if that is right.
137 2011-12-02T20:53:24 <pkumar> you*
138 2011-12-02T20:57:44 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5801:8de563c487be 1.9/ (57 files in 6 dirs): upgrade werkzeug to 0.8.1, document current bundled version and current minimum requirement (0.6, for py 2.7 compatibility)
139 2011-12-02T20:57:45 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5802:dba48cb280f9 1.9/ (4 files in 4 dirs): delete some code we had copied from werkzeug 0.6.1 while we bundled 0.5.1 (it is contained in the bundled werkzeug 0.8.1)
140 2011-12-02T20:57:46 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5803:6446873d152f 1.9/ (21 files in 5 dirs): upgraded bundled pygments from 1.3.1 to 1.4
141 2011-12-02T20:57:47 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5804:2e7f76626b58 1.9/ (9 files in 3 dirs): update flup to repo tip (no release since 1.0.2 / 2.5y)
142 2011-12-02T20:57:47 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5805:da0c45f012fb 1.9/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
143 2011-12-02T20:57:51 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5806:f94598e95801 1.9/MoinMoin/action/PackagePages.py: fix pep8 issue
144 2011-12-02T20:59:05 <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: see there
145 2011-12-02T21:02:04 <pkumar> ah! ok
146 2011-12-02T21:03:58 <pkumar> so, its done as it seems, at least the python part, though few sentences may need help with translations
147 2011-12-02T21:45:28 *** sungji
148 2011-12-02T21:45:46 *** HULK
149 2011-12-02T21:54:35 *** pkumar
150 2011-12-02T21:55:50 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, i checked what you said but i don't understand what you mean by 'other places' there is no other place where user_secret is used
151 2011-12-02T22:10:20 *** NikitaUtiu
152 2011-12-02T22:14:07 *** grzywacz
153 2011-12-02T22:17:32 *** Donald95
154 2011-12-02T22:18:10 *** Donald95
155 2011-12-02T22:19:17 *** raignarok
156 2011-12-02T22:20:29 *** brunomartin
157 2011-12-02T22:21:35 *** dave_largo
158 2011-12-02T22:39:10 *** joancreus
159 2011-12-02T23:20:55 *** RogerHaase
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