1 2011-11-05T00:12:43 <dreimark> gn
2 2011-11-05T00:17:12 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
3 2011-11-05T00:55:08 *** yufra
4 2011-11-05T00:59:30 *** yufra
5 2011-11-05T01:03:44 *** yufra
6 2011-11-05T01:12:06 *** raignarok
7 2011-11-05T03:07:58 *** MattMaker_afk
8 2011-11-05T04:52:43 *** xjjk
9 2011-11-05T04:57:01 *** xjjk
10 2011-11-05T05:12:46 *** MattMaker_afk
11 2011-11-05T05:21:39 *** MattMaker_afk
12 2011-11-05T08:16:30 *** xjjk
13 2011-11-05T08:19:18 *** yufra
14 2011-11-05T08:26:28 *** xjjk
15 2011-11-05T08:48:30 *** yufra
16 2011-11-05T08:52:22 *** xjjk
17 2011-11-05T08:52:53 *** xjjk
18 2011-11-05T09:08:36 *** raignarok
19 2011-11-05T09:15:11 *** raignarok
20 2011-11-05T11:00:13 *** grzywacz
21 2011-11-05T11:03:29 *** xjjk
22 2011-11-05T11:03:43 *** xjjk
23 2011-11-05T11:27:27 *** raignarok
24 2011-11-05T11:27:58 *** greg_f
25 2011-11-05T11:33:28 *** raignarok
26 2011-11-05T13:08:14 *** raignarok
27 2011-11-05T15:43:58 *** jek
28 2011-11-05T15:44:19 *** jek
29 2011-11-05T15:52:26 *** brunosmartin
30 2011-11-05T15:55:08 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
31 2011-11-05T16:05:13 <brunosmartin> moin
32 2011-11-05T16:06:11 <ThomasWaldmann> already some stuff one codereview?
33 2011-11-05T16:06:15 <ThomasWaldmann> on*
34 2011-11-05T16:08:27 <brunosmartin> not yet... I just turned the computer on... ;-)
35 2011-11-05T16:09:29 * brunosmartin is finishing some reports...
36 2011-11-05T16:11:33 <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinAcknowledgements you all could add your names there
37 2011-11-05T16:13:41 <brunosmartin> oh... thanks! :-)
38 2011-11-05T16:17:20 <ThomasWaldmann> thank you! :)
39 2011-11-05T16:40:37 <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: http://moinmo.in/BrunoMartin your page?
40 2011-11-05T16:41:01 <ThomasWaldmann> if so, you want to add a little more information
41 2011-11-05T16:41:38 <brunosmartin> yep... I will complete it now...
42 2011-11-05T16:49:55 *** raignarok_
43 2011-11-05T16:53:47 *** raignarok
44 2011-11-05T16:59:02 *** raignarok_
45 2011-11-05T17:02:13 * ThomasWaldmann catches up on moinmo.in
46 2011-11-05T17:11:56 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: could you find out whether there is a melange testing instance for gci 2011 and whether the importer still works?
47 2011-11-05T17:33:47 *** raignarok
48 2011-11-05T17:34:31 *** raignarok
49 2011-11-05T17:36:16 *** raignarok
50 2011-11-05T17:36:23 *** raignarok
51 2011-11-05T17:36:38 *** raignarok
52 2011-11-05T17:37:40 *** raignarok
53 2011-11-05T17:38:22 *** raignarok
54 2011-11-05T17:39:08 *** raignarok_
55 2011-11-05T17:39:19 *** raignarok_
56 2011-11-05T17:39:25 *** raignarok_
57 2011-11-05T17:43:02 *** raignarok_
58 2011-11-05T17:43:15 *** raignarok_
59 2011-11-05T17:54:42 *** raignarok_
60 2011-11-05T18:04:17 *** raignarok
61 2011-11-05T18:16:21 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, we need more native speakers as gci mentors for all languages except english, german, russian
62 2011-11-05T18:16:32 <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: bgola: brunosmartin: dreimark: eSyr: franklin: greg_f: grzywacz: jek: marchael: MattMaker_afk: ronny: vedranm: vpv: waldi: xjjk: xorAxAx: ^^
63 2011-11-05T18:17:12 <ThomasWaldmann> if you speak any other language except the ones mentioned, please consider helping us as a translation mentor for gci 2011
64 2011-11-05T18:17:47 <ThomasWaldmann> you don't have to translate the stuff yourself, just check if the translation was done in a good way by the gci student
65 2011-11-05T18:18:26 <ThomasWaldmann> (== he really worked on it seriously and he did not just use google translate or something similar)
66 2011-11-05T18:19:16 <waldi> not good enough
67 2011-11-05T18:19:30 <ThomasWaldmann> "native" can mean in this context: either born there and grown up with the language or speaking it for a long time and very well
68 2011-11-05T18:19:58 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: ?
69 2011-11-05T18:30:31 * ThomasWaldmann did a related mailing list post also
70 2011-11-05T18:44:40 <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/99/can-we-use-new-string-formatting-using btw, this somehow blocks moin2 translation tasks
71 2011-11-05T18:45:01 *** greg_f
72 2011-11-05T18:45:26 <ThomasWaldmann> (or would create a lot of work that has to be re-done in case we change the original strings after a translation was completed)
73 2011-11-05T18:47:41 <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: we should try to integrate all work soon, so just tell if you think your stuff is ready and post it on codereview
74 2011-11-05T18:50:17 <ThomasWaldmann> or if you already committed it, just tell so
75 2011-11-05T18:51:09 <grzywacz> uh,
76 2011-11-05T18:51:30 <grzywacz> I'm currently too busy with one, erm, student. ;-)
77 2011-11-05T18:51:56 <grzywacz> but hm. translation?
78 2011-11-05T18:52:17 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, does Polish translation need work?
79 2011-11-05T18:52:53 <ThomasWaldmann> yes. http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/pl
80 2011-11-05T18:53:15 <grzywacz> Sounds like 1 task?
81 2011-11-05T18:54:20 <grzywacz> I recall someone mentioning ~250 strings per task?
82 2011-11-05T18:54:27 <ThomasWaldmann> i can't tell the exact metrics yet, but yes, maybe
83 2011-11-05T18:54:32 <grzywacz> But, I can see there are probably some fixes to be made to the translated strings too.
84 2011-11-05T18:54:56 <ThomasWaldmann> problem is that we want to avoid to get fake translations like last time, so we first need a mentor that can check it
85 2011-11-05T18:55:00 <vpv> ThomasWaldmann: I'm a bit busy this evening, but I could mentor a student for Finnish translations if someone shows up
86 2011-11-05T18:55:14 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, I can check it just fine.
87 2011-11-05T18:56:23 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GCI2011 can you both add yourselves as mentors (put "xx translation" after your name, if you only want to help on that)
88 2011-11-05T18:57:19 <ThomasWaldmann> if you are here rather often, we can just ping you, otherwise we also need some alternative way to contact you
89 2011-11-05T18:58:26 <ThomasWaldmann> and if you are enthusiastic about moin2 and want to have it translated also, tell so, but there's a little catch for that still.
90 2011-11-05T18:59:31 <ThomasWaldmann> translations can be done for moin 2.0. This is a bit delicate thing
91 2011-11-05T18:59:31 <ThomasWaldmann> though, as much stuff is still in flux there. So we need to be careful
92 2011-11-05T18:59:32 <ThomasWaldmann> to only do translations that have a good community backing,
93 2011-11-05T18:59:38 <ThomasWaldmann> so that they
94 2011-11-05T18:59:38 <ThomasWaldmann> will get permanent maintenance/updating as needed (without just relying
95 2011-11-05T18:59:38 <ThomasWaldmann> on the gci student). This requires some people passionate about having
96 2011-11-05T18:59:38 <ThomasWaldmann> such a translation early, even if it means some work keeping it updated
97 2011-11-05T18:59:40 <ThomasWaldmann> and having to retranslate strings as they change.
98 2011-11-05T19:00:38 <ThomasWaldmann> vpv: http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/fi yes, that needs also some work
99 2011-11-05T19:02:11 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you didn't see moin2 code yet, have a look, it is quite different from moin 1.x
100 2011-11-05T19:02:38 *** sinha
101 2011-11-05T19:03:18 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: Hello, seen your mail regarding translation mentors for Code In
102 2011-11-05T19:03:26 <vpv> ThomasWaldmann: the GCI page is write-protected, at least for me
103 2011-11-05T19:04:18 <ThomasWaldmann> wb sinha :)
104 2011-11-05T19:04:22 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: If you consider Hindi as one of the language for the translation then i might be helpful as i am a native speaker
105 2011-11-05T19:04:37 <ThomasWaldmann> vpv: oops
106 2011-11-05T19:05:05 <sinha> for pas few months i got very much indulged in academics so didnt get much time to come back, nonetheless i will be getting freed soon :)
107 2011-11-05T19:05:07 <sinha> *past
108 2011-11-05T19:05:44 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/hi looks like quite a lot to do
109 2011-11-05T19:06:03 <ThomasWaldmann> and for moin2 see the ML post
110 2011-11-05T19:09:24 <ThomasWaldmann> * Ville-Pekka Vainio (fi native speaker, moin 1.9 translation update mentor)
111 2011-11-05T19:09:24 <ThomasWaldmann> * KarolNowak (pl native speaker, moin 1.9 translation update mentor)
112 2011-11-05T19:09:25 <ThomasWaldmann> * AkashSinha (hi native speaker, moin 1.9 translation update mentor)
113 2011-11-05T19:09:29 <ThomasWaldmann> ok like that?
114 2011-11-05T19:09:44 <grzywacz> fine with me
115 2011-11-05T19:09:55 <vpv> ThomasWaldmann: my moin wiki user name is VillePekkaVainio
116 2011-11-05T19:10:29 <ThomasWaldmann> yup, just found it, was unsure about exact spelling
117 2011-11-05T19:11:57 * ThomasWaldmann saved
118 2011-11-05T19:13:10 <ThomasWaldmann> we can also dynamically add student tasks. so in case there is a student doing really good work on 1.9 translation, we could create a moin2 task also.
119 2011-11-05T20:00:58 * ThomasWaldmann changes aliasname to display_name in moin2
120 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> namespaces * 1063:ee71ed6e97c6 2.0/MoinMoin/ (8 files in 7 dirs):
121 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> change user.aliasname to user.display_name
122 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> aliasname is a bit misleading now that name itself can be a list.
123 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> but in moin 1.x, aliasname was always used for display purposes only,
124 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> so display_name is a better name for it (see also displayName in LDAP)
125 2011-11-05T20:13:24 <CIA-80> changed 1.9 importer to rename the key accordingly.
126 2011-11-05T20:19:56 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: what do you think about only having the gci metadata on a moin wiki page (and the short description maybe), but for details just a moin2 issue tracker link?
127 2011-11-05T20:21:04 *** brunosmartin
128 2011-11-05T20:41:32 *** yufra
129 2011-11-05T20:49:05 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: i dont see the point
130 2011-11-05T20:49:44 <ThomasWaldmann> if the task is not taken, we have it in the tracker, as all other moin2 tasks
131 2011-11-05T20:50:09 <ThomasWaldmann> if it is taken and done, we can close it
132 2011-11-05T20:50:18 <xorAxAx> hmm, ok
133 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> namespaces * 1064:c36e869d01a7 2.0/MoinMoin/user.py:
134 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> avoid crash on password change submit if we have no enc_password stored
135 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> can happen e.g. when using GivenAuth to just login in (and autocreate)
136 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> some specific user. that user won't have a enc_password then.
137 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> for the password change form, we require the user to give the old password
138 2011-11-05T21:11:38 <CIA-80> and the new one. if we have no enc_password stored, that should just fail
139 2011-11-05T21:11:39 <CIA-80> (and it does fail now, but not crash).
140 2011-11-05T21:19:17 <CIA-80> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1065:a60595b7ed8c 2.0/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: add info about avatar configuration
141 2011-11-05T22:06:12 *** sinha
142 2011-11-05T22:07:42 <dreimark> vpv: I have added you to the TrustedEditorGroup, no idea why you weren't there
143 2011-11-05T22:09:50 <vpv> dreimark: thanks :)
144 2011-11-05T23:01:10 *** MattMaker_afk
145 2011-11-05T23:47:09 *** MattMaker_afk
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