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  12 2011-10-24T09:38:51  <dreimark> moin
  13 2011-10-24T09:39:21  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  14 2011-10-24T09:41:47  <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: will try to talk to you later today, before I catch my flight from SFO
  15 2011-10-24T11:24:23  <gemile> ThomasWaldmann, dreimark, A lazy question please. It would save me some searching. In the More Actions menu, what exactly should I add before 'raw' above "menu = [ ..." and what exactly should I add above 'raw': _('View Source') in order to add a "What links here" entry (self.pageLinkTo)?
  16 2011-10-24T11:25:38  <gemile> ThomasWaldmann, dreimark, A lazy question please. It would save me some searching. In the More Actions menu, what exactly should I add above 'raw' under "menu = [ ..." and what exactly should I add above 'raw': _('View Source') under "titles = { ..." in order to add a "What links here" entry (self.pageLinkTo)?
  17 2011-10-24T11:25:44  <gemile> Sorry, I had to correct it.
  18 2011-10-24T11:31:14  <gemile> Clarification: I mean I want to add the "What links here" entry just above the "Raw Text" entry.
  19 2011-10-24T11:31:57  <dreimark> gemile: i am at work currently. you find the action by looking at the url if you select that
  20 2011-10-24T11:53:19  <gemile> The problem is that it wouldn't be a simple action ("fullsearch"). I'd have to also integrate value='linkto:"%s" % d['page_name']" and "context=180" (I'm not sure what the latter means).
  21 2011-10-24T12:14:41  <gemile> Will I have to create my own action?
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  24 2011-10-24T15:27:13  <gemile> dreimark, All right, then let me put it this way: I can't wait for you to finish work. :D
  25 2011-10-24T15:30:59  <brunomartin> moin
  26 2011-10-24T16:37:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  27 2011-10-24T17:04:11  * ThomasWaldmann will travel to brazil today \o/
  28 2011-10-24T18:21:34  <gemile> ThomasWaldmann, Could you help me a bit?
  29 2011-10-24T18:22:23  <gemile> Oh, sorry. I guess you're busy with your journey.
  30 2011-10-24T18:51:20  <brunomartin> gemile:maybe I can help you!
  31 2011-10-24T19:00:00  <gemile> Did you see my few messages above?
  32 2011-10-24T19:00:22  <gemile> brunomartin
  33 2011-10-24T19:01:11  <brunomartin> no... let me see the logs...
  34 2011-10-24T19:05:01  <brunomartin> gemile: sorry, but I doesn't understand what you are trying to do...
  35 2011-10-24T19:13:06  <gemile> brunomartin, Could you quote the part(s) where I wasn't clear enough?
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  38 2011-10-24T21:12:02  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  39 2011-10-24T21:12:24  * ThomasWaldmann sits at sfo airport and has power and free wireless. great. :)
  40 2011-10-24T21:13:10  <ThomasWaldmann> gemile: I'll have a look if you're still here
  41 2011-10-24T21:14:24  <gemile> ThomasWaldmann, I am; faithfully watching the channel and witnessing your enjoyment with the voyage. ;)
  42 2011-10-24T21:15:31  <ThomasWaldmann> gemile: you know that 1.9 does the "what links here" thing by clicking on the last part of the page name in the title area?
  43 2011-10-24T21:15:57  <gemile> I know...
  44 2011-10-24T21:16:17  <gemile> But I was thinking to make it a bit more Wikipedia-like... :)
  45 2011-10-24T21:16:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  46 2011-10-24T21:17:12  <ThomasWaldmann> well, 2 ways
  47 2011-10-24T21:17:48  <ThomasWaldmann> if you just want it to be somewhere, i guess you could just add a plugin action to data/plugin/action/WhatLinksHere.py
  48 2011-10-24T21:18:17  <ThomasWaldmann> if you want more precise placement and nameing, you maybe need to modify some places in the code
  49 2011-10-24T21:19:05  <ThomasWaldmann> or, you could make a special theme, that also would work as a plugin
  50 2011-10-24T21:20:23  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i would like to have a WP-like neat looking theme for moin2
  51 2011-10-24T21:21:15  <ThomasWaldmann> or even a neat looking default theme
  52 2011-10-24T21:22:23  <gemile> Oh, by the way, I've always wondered one thing, and you're the right person to ask this: why is the current default theme so ugly? (I really hope my question doesn't sound offending. If it does, I am truly sorry.)
  53 2011-10-24T21:23:35  <ThomasWaldmann> it is so ugly because we have no active good designer who can do a great looking, accessible, compatible theme
  54 2011-10-24T21:24:19  <ThomasWaldmann> (and I personally am rather a coder than a designer)
  55 2011-10-24T21:24:22  <gemile> I am basing my theme on FixedLeft. So what's your opinion about FixedLeft, in the first place?
  56 2011-10-24T21:25:00  <ThomasWaldmann> well, I am not ery much interesteted in 1.9 any more as moin2 will be very different
  57 2011-10-24T21:25:23  <ThomasWaldmann> (sorry, big latecncy here, typing sucks)
  58 2011-10-24T21:25:35  <gemile> Oh, no problem. :)
  59 2011-10-24T21:26:49  <gemile> I don't think the transition between 1.9 and 2.0 matters when it comes to theming. I think it's easy to port most of the theme to 2.0. Or am I wrong?
  60 2011-10-24T21:27:14  <ThomasWaldmann> well, depends on definition of easy
  61 2011-10-24T21:27:37  <ThomasWaldmann> moin2 is very different, it uses templates, it has other functionality
  62 2011-10-24T21:28:20  <ThomasWaldmann> so most python code that is done for 1.9 will have to be rewritten for 2
  63 2011-10-24T21:28:39  <ThomasWaldmann> similar for html (in code vs. in templates)
  64 2011-10-24T21:28:52  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe some css stuff could work for both
  65 2011-10-24T21:29:25  <gemile> Still, do you have any reason to assume the FixedLeft developers won't be interested in a port?
  66 2011-10-24T21:30:27  <ThomasWaldmann> who is it?
  67 2011-10-24T21:31:44  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, roger haaase
  68 2011-10-24T21:32:11  <ThomasWaldmann> well, he has been working with us on css/js related moin2 stuff, but i haven't seen him recently
  69 2011-10-24T21:33:01  <gemile> There is a FixedLeft version for 1.9.3.
  70 2011-10-24T21:33:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (another issue currently is that we have no moin2 plugin system yet. although different themes might stil be possible)
  71 2011-10-24T21:34:54  <ThomasWaldmann> but much higher prio than adding themes to moin2 is to have 1 nice one as default
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  73 2011-10-24T21:38:37  <gemile> I think I'll send you one for 1.9.3 for now and you could tell me what you'd like to see changed in it for a potential 2.0 port.
  74 2011-10-24T21:39:17  <gemile> I know there will be different things under the hood and different/more features. I'm just talking looks.
  75 2011-10-24T21:39:48  <ThomasWaldmann> ok. a screenshot and a wiki page linked from ThemeMarket would be welcome.
  76 2011-10-24T21:42:49  <ThomasWaldmann> gemile: what i was thinking about (but without result yet) is whether starting a theme from scratch for moin2 makes sense
  77 2011-10-24T21:43:12  <ThomasWaldmann> so like having 0 css and just add what's needed
  78 2011-10-24T21:44:40  <ThomasWaldmann> the current default theme was somehow migrated from 1.9 and then changed. but i am not sure if all css we have is still used / needed or whether it might get some refactoring anyway.
  79 2011-10-24T22:18:06  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 971:c396343c640a 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: fix AttributeError exception that happened when searching
  80 2011-10-24T22:22:27  <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: could you create an etherpad somewhere for our sprint, fill in some stuff and post url here?
  81 2011-10-24T22:24:36  <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin2brazil
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