MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-10-01

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   4 2011-10-01T12:54:03  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
   5 2011-10-01T12:54:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: i am reading that io lib got much faster in 2.7. so that means it was much slower in 2.6.
   6 2011-10-01T12:55:04  <ronny> i see
   7 2011-10-01T12:58:16  <ThomasWaldmann> problem: 2.7 support on stable distributions
   8 2011-10-01T13:09:45  <ThomasWaldmann> like debian
   9 2011-10-01T13:10:02  <ThomasWaldmann> and not even a backport or a python2.7 package
  10 2011-10-01T13:12:14  <ronny> do we use anything othrt thn bytesio?
  11 2011-10-01T13:13:18  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc, i never used io module before, so your new stuff is likely the only usage
  12 2011-10-01T13:13:56  <ThomasWaldmann> one could check whether that speed issue also relates to that (or just to other stuff)
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  15 2011-10-01T15:01:14  <brunosmartin> mion
  16 2011-10-01T15:01:18  <brunosmartin> moin
  17 2011-10-01T15:02:30  <ThomasWaldmann> miau :)
  18 2011-10-01T15:02:53  <brunosmartin> :-)
  19 2011-10-01T15:03:01  <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: how's pycon brazil?
  20 2011-10-01T15:03:04  <brunosmartin> we are here in python Brasil!
  21 2011-10-01T15:03:06  <brunosmartin> yeah!
  22 2011-10-01T15:03:13  <brunosmartin> I'm here now! :-)
  23 2011-10-01T15:04:10  <ThomasWaldmann> greetings to all pythonistas, esp. the moin using ones :)
  24 2011-10-01T15:04:20  <ronny> hmm
  25 2011-10-01T15:04:30  <ronny> oh my, io.BytesIO is python code
  26 2011-10-01T15:04:35  <ronny> and in a strange inheritance
  27 2011-10-01T15:05:12  <brunosmartin> :-)
  28 2011-10-01T15:05:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: the changelog says it was replaced/supplemented with a C implementation in 2.7
  29 2011-10-01T15:05:42  <brunosmartin> can I use your presentation here? http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTalks/EuroPython-2010-07-21
  30 2011-10-01T15:07:14  <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: yes, but it is not quite uptodate
  31 2011-10-01T15:07:35  <brunosmartin> its ok...
  32 2011-10-01T15:08:05  <ThomasWaldmann> the big picture is ok, but some details are different meanwhile
  33 2011-10-01T15:08:18  <brunosmartin> yeah, I know..
  34 2011-10-01T15:09:16  <brunosmartin> it's just to get the big picture, to convince more developer to join our sprint here in brazil!
  35 2011-10-01T15:09:20  <brunosmartin> :-D
  36 2011-10-01T15:09:42  <ThomasWaldmann> that would be great :)
  37 2011-10-01T15:10:21  <ThomasWaldmann> i am currently working on the 1.9 -> 2.0 storage-ng conversion
  38 2011-10-01T15:11:12  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
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  41 2011-10-01T15:35:50  <brunosmartin> bbl
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  47 2011-10-01T17:31:39  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> storage-ng * 912:751e70074df4 2.0/MoinMoin/storage/middleware/serialization.py: serialization code: make it reusable
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  50 2011-10-01T20:56:10  <brunosmartin> moin
  51 2011-10-01T21:03:35  <dreimark> moin :)
  52 2011-10-01T21:06:22  <dreimark> brunosmartin: do yo u have some theme developers in your group?
  53 2011-10-01T21:06:41  <brunosmartin> yeah!
  54 2011-10-01T21:06:49  <brunosmartin> we have 2 designers here!
  55 2011-10-01T21:11:33  <dreimark> are they interested in the sprint too? because we have some parts "meta ui" which need some good designer
  56 2011-10-01T21:12:36  <dreimark> also a general refactoring of modernizes as just "default" similiar to sphinx theming struncture would help us
  57 2011-10-01T21:16:07  <brunosmartin> yeah, they are interested and involved...
  58 2011-10-01T21:16:11  <brunosmartin> ;-)
  59 2011-10-01T21:16:52  <brunosmartin> one designer (Catia) will be in the sprint, bot the other one is on vacation...
  60 2011-10-01T21:18:10  <dreimark> :)
  61 2011-10-01T21:20:19  <brunosmartin> in about a hour, I'm gonna present moin2 here in python brasil, in lightning talk, to call more developer to the sprint!
  62 2011-10-01T21:20:23  <brunosmartin> :-D
  63 2011-10-01T21:20:41  <ThomasWaldmann> yay :)
  64 2011-10-01T21:21:04  <ThomasWaldmann> just add a note to the backend/storage slide that it recently got even easier
  65 2011-10-01T21:30:56  <brunosmartin> I don't know if I will have time for that, cause we are coding another software that we will publish today e present on same talk! ;-) but I explain it, ok?
  66 2011-10-01T21:31:50  <brunosmartin> we have done a jabber bot to monitor and control servers!
  67 2011-10-01T21:38:22  <dreimark> brunosmartin: what kind of servers ?
  68 2011-10-01T21:40:26  <ThomasWaldmann> brunosmartin: irc used to used for that :D
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  70 2011-10-01T21:40:51  <ThomasWaldmann> (usually by people one does not even know)
  71 2011-10-01T21:42:45  <ThomasWaldmann> global history is crap slow
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  73 2011-10-01T21:43:43  * ThomasWaldmann has loaded a small 1.9 wiki into moin2 storage-ng
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  77 2011-10-01T22:30:21  <ThomasWaldmann> 2011-10-01 22:13:18,464 INFO MoinMoin.util.clock:40 timer total(0): 61398.33ms
  78 2011-10-01T22:30:21  <ThomasWaldmann> 2011-10-01 22:13:18,465 INFO werkzeug:116 127.0.0.1 "GET /+history HTTP/1.1" 200 -
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  81 2011-10-01T22:55:28  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> storage-ng * 913:10a358208aba 2.0/MoinMoin/app.py: use the content backend directly until router works correct
  82 2011-10-01T22:55:28  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> storage-ng * 914:7d8785cd04b7 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: diff: remove ':' hack
  83 2011-10-01T23:25:15  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, logging in first makes it worse (produce all historical changes on +history), but better after one has set a bookmark
  84 2011-10-01T23:25:32  <ThomasWaldmann> then it is down to a few seconds, which is still too slow somehow
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  86 2011-10-01T23:36:25  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: can you comment on current global history implementation?
  87 2011-10-01T23:52:30  <ThomasWaldmann> 2011-10-01 23:45:48,010 INFO MoinMoin.util.clock:40 timer gh search(0): 0.05ms
  88 2011-10-01T23:52:30  <ThomasWaldmann> 2011-10-01 23:47:20,902 INFO MoinMoin.util.clock:40 timer gh postprocess(0): 92891.96ms