1 2011-09-14T00:14:34 *** brunomartin
2 2011-09-14T01:01:59 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: see latest push
3 2011-09-14T01:08:20 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: whoos has support for sort order groups in tip
4 2011-09-14T01:11:13 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: and probably best of each group by next week
5 2011-09-14T01:12:44 <ThomasWaldmann> cool :)
6 2011-09-14T01:13:20 <ThomasWaldmann> i was just thinking about adding a context manager to Index objects, but the close() of it is just "pass", so ...
7 2011-09-14T01:25:14 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, if i use relpath/mtime as revids of the fileserver backend, i can effectively update the whoosh index :D
8 2011-09-14T01:32:57 <ronny> good thinking
9 2011-09-14T02:06:01 *** MattMaker_
10 2011-09-14T02:10:27 *** MattMaker
11 2011-09-14T02:10:27 *** MattMaker_
12 2011-09-14T04:33:23 *** Marchael
13 2011-09-14T05:19:22 *** Marchael
14 2011-09-14T06:57:44 *** Marchael
15 2011-09-14T07:00:30 *** franklin
16 2011-09-14T07:00:40 *** eSyr
17 2011-09-14T07:06:47 *** jek
18 2011-09-14T07:07:04 *** asaman
19 2011-09-14T07:07:06 *** xorAxAx
20 2011-09-14T07:07:06 *** waldi
21 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** eSyr_
22 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** franklin_
23 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** asaman
24 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** xorAxAx
25 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** jek
26 2011-09-14T07:08:38 *** waldi
27 2011-09-14T07:43:42 *** Marchael
28 2011-09-14T08:00:32 *** Marchael
29 2011-09-14T08:32:46 <dreimark> moin
30 2011-09-14T08:59:36 *** Marchael
31 2011-09-14T09:13:29 <dreimark> bbl
32 2011-09-14T10:15:28 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
33 2011-09-14T10:15:49 *** Marchael
34 2011-09-14T10:42:52 <ronny> moin
35 2011-09-14T10:54:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: looks like mchaput implemented what we need (looked at his latest cs) :)
36 2011-09-14T11:00:48 *** Marchael
37 2011-09-14T11:40:11 *** Marchael
38 2011-09-14T11:46:52 *** greg_f
39 2011-09-14T12:49:04 *** eSyr_
40 2011-09-14T12:55:53 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: pushed acl support proof-of-concept
41 2011-09-14T13:01:27 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: not sure if i can take a look today
42 2011-09-14T13:52:39 <ThomasWaldmann> Item just got much easier and more versatile
43 2011-09-14T14:02:20 <dreimark> re
44 2011-09-14T14:02:22 <dreimark> :)
45 2011-09-14T14:24:52 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: (in case you read this in the backlog) maybe you can help with serialization
46 2011-09-14T14:25:35 <ThomasWaldmann> storage-ng is quite different, so it could use a quite simpler serialization format than moin2 current storage implementation
47 2011-09-14T14:26:23 <ThomasWaldmann> but, there might be people with content in moin2, so i guess we (you :) need a way to get the content out of current storage and back into storage-ng
48 2011-09-14T14:27:13 <ThomasWaldmann> i currently feel quite optimistic that storage-ng will replace current storage
49 2011-09-14T14:31:26 <ThomasWaldmann> 8 weeks left until we should release "something", btw :)
50 2011-09-14T16:04:37 *** brunomartin
51 2011-09-14T16:15:30 <ThomasWaldmann> hi brunomartin
52 2011-09-14T16:15:38 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:23) < ThomasWal> brunomartin: (in case you read this in the backlog) maybe you can help with serialization
53 2011-09-14T16:15:41 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:23) < ThomasWal> storage-ng is quite different, so it could use a quite simpler serialization format than moin2 current storage implementation
54 2011-09-14T16:15:44 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:24) < ThomasWal> but, there might be people with content in moin2, so i guess we (you :) need a way to get the content out of current storage and back into storage-ng
55 2011-09-14T16:15:47 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:25) < ThomasWal> i currently feel quite optimistic that storage-ng will replace current storage
56 2011-09-14T16:15:50 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:29) < ThomasWal> 8 weeks left until we should release "something", btw :)
57 2011-09-14T16:16:57 <brunomartin> hi ThomasWaldmann!
58 2011-09-14T16:22:36 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: Great job!
59 2011-09-14T16:24:03 <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: but you're thinking stop using xml, or simplify the xml?
60 2011-09-14T16:25:11 <brunomartin> \me is taking a look at storage-ng
61 2011-09-14T16:25:18 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe for the data migration you need (right?) something xml based would be easier
62 2011-09-14T16:25:32 <ThomasWaldmann> we can later either do simpler xml or json
63 2011-09-14T16:35:42 <ThomasWaldmann> brb
64 2011-09-14T16:40:44 <brunomartin> maybe would be easier to convert actual xml to simpler xml or json after it's specified and then load it.
65 2011-09-14T16:43:19 <ronny> isnt there need for legacy importers later on anyway?
66 2011-09-14T16:48:37 *** Marchael
67 2011-09-14T16:49:54 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: we won't support migration for different alphas of moin2
68 2011-09-14T16:50:25 <ThomasWaldmann> but for own needs, we might do some quick hacks
69 2011-09-14T16:50:38 <ThomasWaldmann> we need to support migration from 1.9.latest, though
70 2011-09-14T16:51:34 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: how does 1.9 latest export stuff?
71 2011-09-14T16:51:41 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe first specifying new serialization format and then doing some quick hack for current storage api is best
72 2011-09-14T16:51:51 <ronny> hmk
73 2011-09-14T16:52:31 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: the current moin2 storage code has fs19, which makes a 1.9 storage usable read-only for moin2
74 2011-09-14T16:53:15 <ThomasWaldmann> that still needs to be done for storage-ng at some time
75 2011-09-14T16:54:20 <ThomasWaldmann> but I think we can do that after implanting storage-ng
76 2011-09-14T16:55:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, there's a sqlite3 storage now :D
77 2011-09-14T16:55:53 <ThomasWaldmann> fun to write storages for -ng
78 2011-09-14T16:56:25 <ronny> then its correct i guess :)
79 2011-09-14T16:57:11 <ThomasWaldmann> typical code size: 2kB
80 2011-09-14T17:01:26 <ronny> how much was it before?
81 2011-09-14T17:01:43 <ronny> i dont remember, so probably much
82 2011-09-14T17:11:29 <dreimark> wow
83 2011-09-14T17:38:55 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: MUCH more
84 2011-09-14T17:39:52 <ThomasWaldmann> fs2 16K, hg 28K, sqla 26K, flatfile 6K, fileserver 7K
85 2011-09-14T17:40:13 <ThomasWaldmann> but: those were full backends, not just stores
86 2011-09-14T17:40:35 <ThomasWaldmann> storages backend storage-ng = 5K
87 2011-09-14T17:40:54 <ThomasWaldmann> fileserver backend storage-ng = 4K
88 2011-09-14T17:41:06 <ronny> so we got a pretty good ratio :)
89 2011-09-14T18:14:48 *** Marchael
90 2011-09-14T19:02:22 *** jek
91 2011-09-14T19:02:42 *** jek
92 2011-09-14T19:15:20 *** greg_f
93 2011-09-14T20:53:07 *** raignarok
94 2011-09-14T21:46:25 *** MattMaker_
95 2011-09-14T21:50:04 *** MattMaker
96 2011-09-14T21:50:04 *** MattMaker_
97 2011-09-14T22:05:26 *** eSyr
98 2011-09-14T22:05:32 *** jek
99 2011-09-14T22:06:02 *** raignarok
100 2011-09-14T22:06:25 *** franklin_
101 2011-09-14T22:06:27 *** asaman
102 2011-09-14T22:06:29 *** xorAxAx
103 2011-09-14T22:06:30 *** waldi
104 2011-09-14T22:06:47 *** aa__
105 2011-09-14T22:07:02 *** xjjk
106 2011-09-14T22:07:05 *** ronny
107 2011-09-14T22:07:15 *** dreimark
108 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** raignarok
109 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** jek
110 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** dreimark
111 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** xjjk
112 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** ronny
113 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** aa__
114 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** eSyr
115 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** franklin_
116 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** asaman
117 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** xorAxAx
118 2011-09-14T22:07:25 *** waldi
119 2011-09-14T22:18:00 *** xjjk
120 2011-09-14T22:21:19 *** ronny
121 2011-09-14T22:21:27 *** aa__
122 2011-09-14T22:21:33 *** dreimark
123 2011-09-14T22:21:34 *** raignarok_
124 2011-09-14T22:21:36 *** aa__
125 2011-09-14T22:21:40 *** xjjk
126 2011-09-14T22:21:48 *** dreimark
127 2011-09-14T22:21:50 *** ronny
128 2011-09-14T22:22:38 *** raignarok
129 2011-09-14T23:26:21 *** raignarok_
130 2011-09-14T23:31:38 <ThomasWaldmann> re
131 2011-09-14T23:45:45 *** raignarok
132 2011-09-14T23:54:47 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, looks like we maybe will have GAE compatibly storage in reach
133 2011-09-14T23:55:21 <ThomasWaldmann> using a kvstore backend for that, like available for django