MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-07-16

   1 2011-07-16T01:01:01  <Marchael> gn/bbl
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   8 2011-07-16T11:33:03  <dreimark> http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/7/15/eppur-si-muove/
   9 2011-07-16T11:56:51  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  14 2011-07-16T17:40:34  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do you think we need a special region for the "upload files" from index2 or can it be everywhere on sinhas index page
  15 2011-07-16T17:41:20  <dreimark> similiar as it is with a file browser, where you drop files into the "white area"
  16 2011-07-16T17:42:37  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it is more clear if it is a special region labelled "drop files here to upload" or some nice "upload" icon
  17 2011-07-16T17:45:40  <dreimark> somehow i like also the idea of using the right mouse button displaying a context menu
  18 2011-07-16T17:46:03  <dreimark> there you could also address downloading
  19 2011-07-16T17:47:35  <dreimark> "save as" of the current browser menu is not very useful now
  20 2011-07-16T17:49:01  <ThomasWaldmann> noone expected the right mousebuton :)
  21 2011-07-16T17:49:36  <dreimark> not sure if really noone.
  22 2011-07-16T17:50:15  <dreimark> svg-edit uses it too
  23 2011-07-16T17:50:53  <dreimark> if I'm on a twiki draw item the current right mouse click with save as stores only the png
  24 2011-07-16T17:51:14  <dreimark> while on index it stores the html of the item
  25 2011-07-16T17:52:17  <dreimark> it would be better it has the right options there
  26 2011-07-16T17:52:52  <dreimark> anywiki draw uses also right mouse button
  27 2011-07-16T17:57:09  <ThomasWaldmann> it's a difference if you operate something that is somehow considered an application (like the drawing stuff) or a normal website
  28 2011-07-16T17:57:42  <ThomasWaldmann> i think people rather see moin as a normal website and not expect that functionality is hidden in right-clicks
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  30 2011-07-16T17:59:00  <ThomasWaldmann> and even for normal applications or desktops, quite some people ask me "shall I click left or right?" because they have no mental concept about when they should do what.
  31 2011-07-16T17:59:30  * dreimark I know those people two, and often I get asked one or two clicks
  32 2011-07-16T18:00:09  <dreimark> s/two/too/ - of course more than only two
  33 2011-07-16T18:02:43  <dreimark> then we need a checkbox or star functionality close to each item to do select them for e.g. a downloading feature
  34 2011-07-16T18:03:05  <dreimark> I try to picture that
  35 2011-07-16T18:05:44  <ThomasWaldmann> just click on a DL link?
  36 2011-07-16T18:07:31  <dreimark> then you have to click on one after the other, while you can upload a bunch at once
  37 2011-07-16T18:08:30  <dreimark> the DL is only one option, may be we should think if there are more first
  38 2011-07-16T18:09:31  <dreimark> (un)subscribe many, add/remove to links maybe
  39 2011-07-16T18:11:51  <dreimark> at least me would have something like, filter by content type e.g. all images, then select all, then download
  40 2011-07-16T18:12:01  <dreimark> and this with less clicks
  41 2011-07-16T18:24:36  <ThomasWaldmann> how does that multi-download work technically?
  42 2011-07-16T18:32:40  <dreimark> one should be able to send them as multipart/related document
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  44 2011-07-16T18:35:43  <dreimark> I am still looking for a better article than http://www.motobit.com/tips/detpg_multiple-files-one-request/
  45 2011-07-16T18:40:33  <ThomasWaldmann> that demo is not downloading multiple files
  46 2011-07-16T18:42:26  * ThomasWaldmann needs to go, bbl
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  48 2011-07-16T19:21:34  <dreimark> at least with an other jquery plugin that should work
  49 2011-07-16T19:21:40  <dreimark> may be this one http://plugins.jquery.com/plugin-tags/download-multiple-files
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  51 2011-07-16T19:46:01  * dreimark tries that
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  54 2011-07-16T20:02:33  * dreimark makes a new XStatic package
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  57 2011-07-16T20:35:31  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/XStatic-multiDownload/20110202.1
  58 2011-07-16T20:35:45  <dreimark> and for a simple test, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440268/
  59 2011-07-16T20:43:43  <pkumar> bbl
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  61 2011-07-16T20:54:54  <dreimark> bbl
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  65 2011-07-16T22:06:10  <dreimark> ok, the patch for enabling this popup downloader http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440327/
  66 2011-07-16T22:06:31  <dreimark> i changed the name similiar to the uploader
  67 2011-07-16T22:07:09  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  68 2011-07-16T22:42:30  <dreimark> with a little bit ajax that can be done without a popup window
  69 2011-07-16T22:44:56  * ThomasWaldmann works on making the converter api more homogeneous
  70 2011-07-16T22:48:31  <dreimark> i have a working example without popups by using that http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex8/dhtmlwindow/index.htm
  71 2011-07-16T22:49:13  <dreimark> May be there more libs like that
  72 2011-07-16T22:50:16  <dreimark> var myWindowHandle = dhtmlwindow.open("Download", "iframe", $(links[i]).attr('href'),"Save "+$(links[i]).attr('href'), "width=700px,height=10px,resize=0,scrolling=0,center=0", "recal");
  73 2011-07-16T22:51:13  <dreimark> just one line changed.
  74 2011-07-16T22:52:39  <dreimark> sinha ^ please look at that too. Currently I think we don't need most of that dhtmlwindow plugin.
  75 2011-07-16T22:53:01  <dreimark> do you know different methods to do that?
  76 2011-07-16T22:57:04  <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in/multipledownload it slides then throuh all selected images and shows Save + name
  77 2011-07-16T23:08:51  <dreimark> myWindowHandle.hide();
  78 2011-07-16T23:09:22  <dreimark> if we hide it we have to show somewhere else what we are downloading
  79 2011-07-16T23:21:47  <dreimark> https://github.com/biesiad/multiDownload/issues/1
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