1 2011-05-05T00:03:30 <pkumar> xorAxAx: hi
2 2011-05-05T00:03:40 <xorAxAx> pkumar: hi, cant sleep? :)
3 2011-05-05T00:03:58 <pkumar> yeah :)
4 2011-05-05T00:05:02 <pkumar> So, our meeting is scheduled at Sunday and Wednesday, right?
5 2011-05-05T00:05:52 <xorAxAx> sunday!?
6 2011-05-05T00:06:15 <xorAxAx> oh, thats old
7 2011-05-05T00:06:19 <xorAxAx> let me fix that
8 2011-05-05T00:06:28 <pkumar> okay
9 2011-05-05T00:07:30 <xorAxAx> removed the sunday stuff :)
10 2011-05-05T00:12:03 <pkumar> I was just curious if you would like to suggest something on my project proposal.
11 2011-05-05T00:12:37 <xorAxAx> not today, but i will think about it :)
12 2011-05-05T00:13:01 <pkumar> okay :)
13 2011-05-05T00:21:45 <dreimark> sinha: the project page is missing on http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011
14 2011-05-05T00:33:17 *** m4k3r
15 2011-05-05T00:34:50 <sinha> dreimark: updated !
16 2011-05-05T00:39:08 <dreimark> sinha: you should give it a better name
17 2011-05-05T00:39:23 <dreimark> e.g. UI improvement
18 2011-05-05T00:39:45 <dreimark> or much better UI improvement 2011
19 2011-05-05T00:40:28 <dreimark> "project page" is too generic, everyone could name it that way
20 2011-05-05T00:40:45 * sinha updating
21 2011-05-05T00:40:58 <sinha> dreimark: i thought to keep it space free, but anyways
22 2011-05-05T00:44:48 <sinha> dreimark: No it wasn't named as ProjectPage, that was just the test, it was named as UIimprovement, but now i have updated it appropriately.
23 2011-05-05T00:45:20 <dreimark> sinha: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/TrustedEditorGroup?action=diff&rev2=40&rev1=39
24 2011-05-05T00:45:28 <dreimark> pkumar: ^
25 2011-05-05T00:46:05 <dreimark> sinha: in the table it was named like that
26 2011-05-05T00:47:23 <dreimark> sinha: btw. the parser has that 1. enumeration staff
27 2011-05-05T00:47:33 <dreimark> and please link to the etherpad page too
28 2011-05-05T00:47:49 <dreimark> from yout project page
29 2011-05-05T00:47:51 * sinha doing that
30 2011-05-05T00:48:02 <dreimark> http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-2-ui
31 2011-05-05T00:53:13 * ThomasWaldmann played with a wacom pad today
32 2011-05-05T00:54:29 <pkumar> dreimark: thanks. Do I need to add something there?
33 2011-05-05T00:59:05 <dreimark> pkumar: no, it is just that you don't get all the time the textcha quuestion
34 2011-05-05T00:59:14 <dreimark> while working in the wiki
35 2011-05-05T00:59:47 <pkumar> oh, that's great :)
36 2011-05-05T01:04:27 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: you join us on etherpad?
37 2011-05-05T01:06:23 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: will copy the stuff from wiki, but i guess i could join you tomorrow because its already 4:35 AM in the morning and i am feeling sleepy
38 2011-05-05T01:06:34 <sinha> if that is not an issue
39 2011-05-05T01:08:40 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
40 2011-05-05T01:10:38 <dreimark> yeah, should sleep too, otherwise i never get off that jetlag
41 2011-05-05T01:11:38 <sinha> gn
42 2011-05-05T01:13:30 *** sinha
43 2011-05-05T01:25:31 <dreimark> gn
44 2011-05-05T01:47:58 *** pkumar
45 2011-05-05T03:47:13 *** MattMaker
46 2011-05-05T05:08:12 *** MattMaker
47 2011-05-05T05:25:57 *** Marchael
48 2011-05-05T05:26:23 <Marchael> moin
49 2011-05-05T06:31:40 *** Marchael
50 2011-05-05T06:32:47 *** Marchael
51 2011-05-05T06:38:58 *** Marchael
52 2011-05-05T06:47:52 *** Marchael
53 2011-05-05T06:50:12 *** Marchael
54 2011-05-05T07:09:23 *** Marchael
55 2011-05-05T07:28:07 *** ThomasWaldmann
56 2011-05-05T07:28:30 *** ThomasWaldmann
57 2011-05-05T07:28:30 *** ThomasWaldmann
58 2011-05-05T08:30:35 <asmodai> morn
59 2011-05-05T08:31:18 <Marchael> moin
60 2011-05-05T09:09:25 *** franklin_
61 2011-05-05T09:13:10 *** franklin
62 2011-05-05T10:56:14 <dreimark> moin
63 2011-05-05T10:59:18 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
64 2011-05-05T10:59:28 <Marchael> hi ThomasWaldmann
65 2011-05-05T10:59:42 <Marchael> do you read about kaa?
66 2011-05-05T11:00:15 <ThomasWaldmann> no, where?
67 2011-05-05T11:00:35 <Marchael> http://doc.freevo.org/2.0/Kaa
68 2011-05-05T11:00:38 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: please continue refining the stuff in the pad. add questions, ideas, details.
69 2011-05-05T11:00:59 <Marchael> It can get metas from different types of files
70 2011-05-05T11:01:41 <ThomasWaldmann> add the link to the right section on etherpad
71 2011-05-05T11:04:00 <ThomasWaldmann> (and focus on the search / framework, you don't need to search for all sort of metadata extraction code for binaries, you just need to provide the framework, so that such stuff is possible)
72 2011-05-05T11:09:03 <Marchael> also there is simillar stuff calling mmpython, but looks like it is dead
73 2011-05-05T11:10:09 <Marchael> http://mmpython.sourceforge.net/
74 2011-05-05T11:12:20 <ThomasWaldmann> see what i said above
75 2011-05-05T12:16:48 *** greg_f
76 2011-05-05T12:34:24 *** Marchael
77 2011-05-05T13:21:07 <asmodai> ThomasWaldmann: oi
78 2011-05-05T13:26:54 *** Marchael
79 2011-05-05T13:40:23 *** Marchael
80 2011-05-05T13:42:12 *** Marchael
81 2011-05-05T13:53:30 <ronny> sup
82 2011-05-05T13:54:48 <ronny> Marchael: mmpython is now part of kaa as it seems
83 2011-05-05T13:55:10 <Marchael> ronny: do you working with it?
84 2011-05-05T13:55:29 <ronny> Marchael: no, i just took a look on the stuff
85 2011-05-05T15:20:40 *** MattMaker
86 2011-05-05T15:26:43 *** MattMaker
87 2011-05-05T15:27:07 *** MattMaker
88 2011-05-05T15:57:03 <dreimark> ronny: xorAxAx waldi MattMaker TheSheep ThomasWaldmann http://moinmo.in/EuroPython2011
89 2011-05-05T16:10:16 *** asmodai
90 2011-05-05T16:38:18 *** asmodai
91 2011-05-05T16:46:24 <ThomasWaldmann> re
92 2011-05-05T16:49:17 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: thank for your answer on etherpad but I don't understand what we will doing with documetns duplication if we want content=TEXT(stored=True)
93 2011-05-05T16:49:42 <Marchael> except binaries of course
94 2011-05-05T16:51:26 <Marchael> if content=TEXT(stored=False) then document will be stored in index and in backend simultaneously
95 2011-05-05T16:51:36 <Marchael> s/False/True/
96 2011-05-05T17:00:33 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: And if document was found, why we can not get it from backend and highlight desired text
97 2011-05-05T17:00:41 <Marchael> ?
98 2011-05-05T17:06:53 *** greg_f
99 2011-05-05T17:08:07 *** greg_f
100 2011-05-05T17:12:57 *** greg_f
101 2011-05-05T17:13:39 *** greg_f
102 2011-05-05T17:13:55 <dreimark> greg_f: something is wrong with your client
103 2011-05-05T17:14:33 <greg_f> dreimark: thanks, sorry
104 2011-05-05T17:20:45 *** greg_f
105 2011-05-05T17:21:58 *** greg_f
106 2011-05-05T17:26:58 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: for text items, it will duplicate, yes. for "binary" items, it will only store what the filter code outputs (e.g. if it is a PDF, it will only store what pdftotext outputs as text, if it is a mp3, it will only store title/author/genre [not the whole mp3, of course))
107 2011-05-05T17:27:34 <ThomasWaldmann> for the text items, that is of course a bit redundant (but as they are rather short, no big deal)
108 2011-05-05T17:28:24 <ThomasWaldmann> for the binary items, it is required if we want to show highlighted search results - because filtering them is rather expensive, so one usually does not want to do that at search time
109 2011-05-05T17:29:03 <ThomasWaldmann> and as the schema only allows True or False (not both), this means stored=True for us
110 2011-05-05T17:30:31 <ThomasWaldmann> (if we or some admin thinks this is a problem, we can later make that configurable, but I don't see a reason for that right now)
111 2011-05-05T17:31:08 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: please add all from this ^^^^^ you need to the etherpad
112 2011-05-05T17:31:35 <Marchael> ok
113 2011-05-05T18:30:13 *** Marchael
114 2011-05-05T18:42:16 *** m4k3r
115 2011-05-05T18:52:47 *** Marchael
116 2011-05-05T19:26:54 <dreimark> bbl
117 2011-05-05T19:41:00 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: ping > etherpad :)
118 2011-05-05T19:41:21 <Marchael> ok
119 2011-05-05T19:44:48 *** greg_f
120 2011-05-05T19:48:53 <ronny> sup
121 2011-05-05T20:25:34 *** ronny
122 2011-05-05T20:27:40 *** ronny
123 2011-05-05T20:33:16 *** m4k3r
124 2011-05-05T20:38:05 *** m4k3r
125 2011-05-05T21:35:20 *** Marchael
126 2011-05-05T21:53:42 <dreimark> re
127 2011-05-05T21:56:34 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I'll rename mimetype -> contenttype at most places
128 2011-05-05T21:56:59 *** RogerHaase
129 2011-05-05T22:12:03 <dreimark> ok
130 2011-05-05T22:12:25 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0#Processing_Instructions
131 2011-05-05T22:12:47 <dreimark> do we have replacements for refreh and redirect in meta already?
132 2011-05-05T22:14:00 <ThomasWaldmann> refresh was rather crappy stuff
133 2011-05-05T22:14:10 <ThomasWaldmann> and iirc no for redirect
134 2011-05-05T22:21:05 *** m4k3r
135 2011-05-05T22:29:58 *** sinha
136 2011-05-05T22:33:07 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/4477043/
137 2011-05-05T22:33:32 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i don't think we will have an equivalent for "pragma"
138 2011-05-05T22:35:14 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: why is it a new id?
139 2011-05-05T22:35:40 <sinha> you mean issue id
140 2011-05-05T22:36:13 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean 4477043
141 2011-05-05T22:36:44 <sinha> you mean i could have added it your last review
142 2011-05-05T22:36:51 <ThomasWaldmann> http://codereview.appspot.com/4433075/
143 2011-05-05T22:36:56 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
144 2011-05-05T22:37:14 <ThomasWaldmann> otherwise you lose half the functionality there :)
145 2011-05-05T22:37:17 <sinha> I didn't know how to do that
146 2011-05-05T22:37:33 <sinha> okay will do that now.
147 2011-05-05T22:38:15 <ThomasWaldmann> see upload.py --help or so
148 2011-05-05T22:39:59 <sinha> I am getting this error Issue creation errors: {'user': ["You (akash2607) don't own this issue (4433075)"]}
149 2011-05-05T22:40:27 <dreimark> sinha: who owns it
150 2011-05-05T22:40:29 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: want to have a homepage on moinmo.in or shall i add ! to disable the link?
151 2011-05-05T22:40:50 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer/Moin2BrainDump
152 2011-05-05T22:40:53 <sinha> dreimark:ThomasWaldmann
153 2011-05-05T22:42:01 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: hmm, i suppose i should make one
154 2011-05-05T22:42:06 <ronny> gotta make a cname first
155 2011-05-05T22:42:56 <ronny> (i actually need to fix my homepage)
156 2011-05-05T22:43:37 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: hmm, crap. i didn't know that only the original creator can upload stuff.
157 2011-05-05T22:43:47 <dreimark> andialbrecht: ^
158 2011-05-05T22:43:58 <dreimark> can this be changed ?
159 2011-05-05T22:44:08 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: ok, we'll continue with your id, so you don't have that issue
160 2011-05-05T22:44:09 <sinha> oh and i deleted the new one, damn !
161 2011-05-05T22:44:14 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: andi is one of its developer
162 2011-05-05T22:44:20 * sinha re-doing that
163 2011-05-05T22:44:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: you used upload.py?
164 2011-05-05T22:44:40 <sinha> yes
165 2011-05-05T22:47:17 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: new one http://codereview.appspot.com/4470043/
166 2011-05-05T22:48:51 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm
167 2011-05-05T22:49:13 <ThomasWaldmann> please read the comments on the last one. all of them. then submit a new patch.
168 2011-05-05T22:50:38 <ThomasWaldmann> in case you didn't see that yet: you must click on the comment lines to expand them. or use "expand all" function.
169 2011-05-05T22:52:04 <sinha> okay
170 2011-05-05T22:54:28 <ThomasWaldmann> (i commented more than one file btw)
171 2011-05-05T22:55:36 <sinha> yes yes sorry i haven't gone through them, my bad !