1 2011-05-04T00:02:31 <ThomasWaldmann> you can see with hg out :)
2 2011-05-04T00:03:21 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 212:74ed2b466080 2.0/docs/ (admin/requirements.rst intro/features.rst): docs: small fixes/improvements
3 2011-05-04T00:04:34 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: strange, your repo shows quite some incoming changes for me
4 2011-05-04T00:04:54 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, sorry, i was confused
5 2011-05-04T00:05:09 <ThomasWaldmann> i pulled your stuff to try it, i didn't merge it into main repo
6 2011-05-04T00:05:39 <sinha> i haven't updated it for last few days, updating it now
7 2011-05-04T00:05:57 <ThomasWaldmann> so just finish fixing it, see http://codereview.appspot.com/4433075/
8 2011-05-04T00:05:58 *** m4k3r_
9 2011-05-04T00:06:54 <ThomasWaldmann> and please use upload.py to update the stuff on rietveld (codereview), you can give the id 4433075 to push it there before committing
10 2011-05-04T00:07:19 <sinha> okay.
11 2011-05-04T00:09:43 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, mercurial is supported, docs telling otherwise are outdated
12 2011-05-04T00:12:27 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: btw, did you see the link dreimark posted, that was quite nice tree view stuff
13 2011-05-04T00:16:06 <sinha> he showed me one few days back
14 2011-05-04T00:16:24 <sinha> you mean posted today, checking the logs
15 2011-05-04T00:16:49 <ThomasWaldmann> http://labs.abeautifulsite.net/projects/js/jquery/fileTree/demo/ that one, for example
16 2011-05-04T00:18:21 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes, have to figure first how i can get the generator to write no keywords into the form
17 2011-05-04T00:18:43 <dreimark> btw. i think the login form gets optional class instead of required
18 2011-05-04T00:18:52 <dreimark> sinha: please check this too
19 2011-05-04T00:19:35 <sinha> dreimark: yes class optional in both Name and Password field
20 2011-05-04T00:20:25 <dreimark> that is broken
21 2011-05-04T00:20:29 <ThomasWaldmann> why optional?
22 2011-05-04T00:22:48 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann:Reg. treeview link, few of them are using custom load and also having some animation . which one do you suggest ? I guess current one(which i have implemented) was easy to code in view of server side only client side overhead and no ajax/custom load required
23 2011-05-04T00:23:56 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: i didn't look at how the stuff at that link is implemented. it just looked pretty. :)
24 2011-05-04T00:24:42 <ThomasWaldmann> and i think one can always do it either with or without ajax loading.
25 2011-05-04T00:24:56 <sinha> if you want i could also try to add some animation
26 2011-05-04T00:25:11 <sinha> I wanted to do it in first place, but skipped !
27 2011-05-04T00:25:18 <ThomasWaldmann> in general we maybe should try to not reinvent wheel :)
28 2011-05-04T00:25:57 <ThomasWaldmann> like if there is some nice code, with usable license, well maintained, then we should re-use it rather than writing new code which does a very similar thing
29 2011-05-04T00:26:55 <dreimark> this one is also very interesting http://www.jstree.com/
30 2011-05-04T00:27:00 <dreimark> because of the plugins
31 2011-05-04T00:27:25 <dreimark> an example at http://www.jstree.com/demo
32 2011-05-04T00:27:44 <dreimark> we just have to use always folders
33 2011-05-04T00:28:15 <dreimark> it has almost all navigation and tools we also have in mind
34 2011-05-04T00:29:10 * ThomasWaldmann looks
35 2011-05-04T00:29:49 <sinha> dreimark:exactly these two plugins have different requirement than ours at the backend.
36 2011-05-04T00:30:02 <sinha> it works for folders
37 2011-05-04T00:30:53 <ThomasWaldmann> well, yes and no :)
38 2011-05-04T00:31:25 <sinha> and these script may put extra load on client/server, and if we could achieve the same functionality with lesser line of code, should we write it or not ?
39 2011-05-04T00:31:53 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. rename, copy, remove stuff -> you don't need to do that from the tree view. it is a rare operation and you can just first visit the normal item rendering and then rename, copy, etc. it from there.
40 2011-05-04T00:32:15 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean the tree view must not mirror all the functionality we have at other places also.
41 2011-05-04T00:33:04 <dreimark> in that tree you can move an item to an other scope
42 2011-05-04T00:33:06 <ThomasWaldmann> (one option to avoid that mirroring would be to remove it at the other place, but that has to be well thought over)
43 2011-05-04T00:33:14 <dreimark> while you see what you want to do
44 2011-05-04T00:33:28 <sinha> yes that is thee
45 2011-05-04T00:33:34 <sinha> s/thee/there
46 2011-05-04T00:34:30 * dreimark reconizes last days that there are lots of jquery plugins with compatible license we may be can use if we "want"
47 2011-05-04T00:34:46 <dreimark> so i suggest to create first an overview
48 2011-05-04T00:34:59 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, first have a good plan :)
49 2011-05-04T00:35:00 <dreimark> i started at http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-2-ui
50 2011-05-04T00:35:31 <dreimark> we also will find out that we may be need to change the convertors for some
51 2011-05-04T00:35:33 <ThomasWaldmann> the whole thing should have some concept, not just arbitrarily throw together stuff just for the effects
52 2011-05-04T00:35:52 <dreimark> yeah
53 2011-05-04T00:37:05 <dreimark> etherpad is easier to reorganize
54 2011-05-04T00:37:35 <dreimark> sinha: we should use it for brainstormint
55 2011-05-04T00:37:43 <dreimark> s/t/g
56 2011-05-04T00:38:00 <sinha> yes ofcourse
57 2011-05-04T00:38:04 <dreimark> there are various fields in m2 we can improve
58 2011-05-04T00:38:21 <dreimark> some are based on tables, some on forms etc.
59 2011-05-04T00:39:10 <dreimark> it often happens that we find other intersting tools while looking at a solution for one
60 2011-05-04T00:39:34 <dreimark> i just want that we also try to collect them and choose later the right one
61 2011-05-04T00:40:04 <sinha> yes for the past few days i was also going through some jquery plugins on several websites.
62 2011-05-04T00:42:23 <sinha> see this one http://webworkflow.co.uk/plugins/detailsRow/
63 2011-05-04T00:42:33 *** RogerHaase
64 2011-05-04T00:42:58 <sinha> and also has a table sorter
65 2011-05-04T00:43:11 <sinha> could be used at appropriate place
66 2011-05-04T00:44:58 <dreimark> interesting
67 2011-05-04T00:45:48 <dreimark> no license; just "Please feel free to use, alter and distribute"
68 2011-05-04T00:46:05 <ThomasWaldmann> but please not the melange-way "do it all with tables" :)
69 2011-05-04T00:47:09 <ThomasWaldmann> is someone using fs backend with windows?
70 2011-05-04T00:47:16 <dreimark> sinha: some jquery plugins can store its state by a cookie.
71 2011-05-04T00:47:46 <sinha> use, but here it is storing as the arguments of the respective tags
72 2011-05-04T00:47:54 <sinha> s/use/yes
73 2011-05-04T00:48:31 <sinha> does cookie saving/retrieving could be time taking ?
74 2011-05-04T00:48:55 <dreimark> not much, depends on organisation and amount
75 2011-05-04T00:50:00 <dreimark> probably not everything must go into the session cookie part
76 2011-05-04T00:50:35 <dreimark> but if you reload a page and it remembers the old state that is somtimes usefull
77 2011-05-04T00:52:18 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://www.jstree.com/documentation
78 2011-05-04T00:52:39 <dreimark> sinha: ThomasWaldmann on bottom you see that this functionality is made with plugins
79 2011-05-04T00:53:22 <dreimark> we have currently a flat json data structure in meta
80 2011-05-04T00:53:40 <dreimark> otherwise the JSON_DATA plugin may be also interesting
81 2011-05-04T00:55:59 <ThomasWaldmann> that we also use json currently to serialize metadata doesn't mean it is a tree structure
82 2011-05-04T00:56:12 <ThomasWaldmann> or that it makes sense to feed it into a tree view
83 2011-05-04T00:56:25 <dreimark> i meant that by a flat structure
84 2011-05-04T00:56:45 <dreimark> no sense
85 2011-05-04T01:01:44 <sinha> gn
86 2011-05-04T01:01:51 <ThomasWaldmann> gn sinha
87 2011-05-04T01:02:04 *** sinha
88 2011-05-04T01:02:13 * ThomasWaldmann looks at fs backend again, whether the open files issue can be fixed
89 2011-05-04T01:29:24 <dreimark> gn
90 2011-05-04T01:29:59 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
91 2011-05-04T01:34:03 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 213:1c835a7297ea 2.0/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 2 dirs): file handling: use context managers to make sure files are closed
92 2011-05-04T03:43:41 *** MattMaker
93 2011-05-04T04:50:38 *** Marchael
94 2011-05-04T04:51:45 <Marchael> moin
95 2011-05-04T05:35:16 *** Marchael
96 2011-05-04T07:11:28 *** Marchael
97 2011-05-04T08:26:14 *** Marchael
98 2011-05-04T08:37:31 *** Marchael
99 2011-05-04T08:59:14 *** Marchael
100 2011-05-04T09:09:45 *** gwork
101 2011-05-04T09:26:01 *** MattMaker
102 2011-05-04T09:44:08 <dreimark> moin
103 2011-05-04T10:34:54 *** Marchael
104 2011-05-04T10:45:07 *** MattMaker
105 2011-05-04T12:01:53 *** ronny
106 2011-05-04T12:30:11 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: xorAxAx: waldi: in case there is already a meeting today (the wiki page is not very clear about it, sounds rather like for coding phase only, but it likely would make sense beginning earlier), I'll be likely unavailable, have to do hw work at a customer site
107 2011-05-04T12:30:58 <waldi> xorAxAx: we still need to do some brainstorming how to split the two testing tasks. sorry, I did not come to that yet
108 2011-05-04T12:31:34 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: xorAxAx: make a etherpad :)
109 2011-05-04T12:32:07 <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
110 2011-05-04T12:32:26 <asmodai> now
111 2011-05-04T12:32:34 <asmodai> to debug my issue
112 2011-05-04T12:47:16 * dreimark has also to solve a hardware issue but hopefully it is done in an hour
113 2011-05-04T12:49:24 <asmodai> ok, fixed part one
114 2011-05-04T12:49:45 <asmodai> but lighttpd's error reporting sucks ass at times.
115 2011-05-04T12:50:02 <xorAxAx> waldi: well, lets also ask our students :)
116 2011-05-04T12:50:07 <asmodai> Was focusing too much on my setup on the moinmoin side
117 2011-05-04T12:50:13 <asmodai> If it would just have said:
118 2011-05-04T12:50:23 <asmodai> can't spawn fcgi process: file not found
119 2011-05-04T12:50:30 <asmodai> I knew I made a typo >_<
120 2011-05-04T12:51:21 <asmodai> now I get normal 500 errors
121 2011-05-04T13:09:01 <asmodai> aha, but the #!/usr/bin/python needs to go as well.
122 2011-05-04T13:10:23 *** ronny
123 2011-05-04T13:10:28 *** ronny
124 2011-05-04T13:11:06 *** ronny
125 2011-05-04T13:18:53 <xorAxAx> waldi: looks like our students wont join us for today, should we both meet instead?
126 2011-05-04T13:20:08 <waldi> sure
127 2011-05-04T13:22:33 * Marchael will be free through 40 minutes
128 2011-05-04T13:24:04 <xorAxAx> Marchael: "through"? there is no meeting in 40 minutes
129 2011-05-04T13:26:42 <Marchael> I think what "meeting" means communication student with mentor.
130 2011-05-04T13:27:12 <xorAxAx> no, meeting means that all students and mentors meet
131 2011-05-04T13:27:18 <xorAxAx> but not in 34 minutes
132 2011-05-04T13:28:29 <Marchael> ok, I'm not too busy right now.
133 2011-05-04T13:46:12 *** greg_f
134 2011-05-04T14:04:22 <asmodai> Aha, more progress
135 2011-05-04T14:04:37 <asmodai> moved from 500 errors to a different internal server error.
136 2011-05-04T14:05:06 <asmodai> the 500 internal server error came from wiki/data being owned by root instead of www -- wonder if some uid checks would need to be added
137 2011-05-04T14:06:22 <asmodai> So it now rewrote my base URL from / to /Home - so that goes well, but then errors out
138 2011-05-04T14:16:46 <waldi> asmodai: why? this is elementary knowledge
139 2011-05-04T14:22:01 <asmodai> What is?
140 2011-05-04T14:39:59 <Marchael> hi ThomasWaldmann
141 2011-05-04T14:40:25 <Marchael> I found lib for getting metadata from files http://doc.freevo.org/2.0/Kaa
142 2011-05-04T14:47:16 <Marchael> but seems like it doesn't support doc,docx,pdf and other text formats
143 2011-05-04T14:47:24 <Marchael> :(
144 2011-05-04T15:07:47 <xorAxAx> waldi: so?
145 2011-05-04T15:08:02 <waldi> yep
146 2011-05-04T15:49:48 *** hardy_89
147 2011-05-04T16:15:20 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: all it needed to run on my Mac was virtualenv
148 2011-05-04T16:15:26 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: very trivial :)
149 2011-05-04T16:16:15 <hardy_89> waldi: hey
150 2011-05-04T16:16:31 <waldi> ah, hi
151 2011-05-04T16:16:34 <hardy_89> waldi: i got your mail. will do that. although i'm here most of the time
152 2011-05-04T16:26:50 *** gwork
153 2011-05-04T16:27:22 *** gwork
154 2011-05-04T16:29:09 *** gwork
155 2011-05-04T16:29:31 *** gwork
156 2011-05-04T16:31:24 *** gwork
157 2011-05-04T16:31:47 *** gwork
158 2011-05-04T16:32:02 <hardy_89> waldi: whenever i run py.test, i get this on my terminal
159 2011-05-04T16:32:05 <hardy_89> waldi: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/382806/
160 2011-05-04T16:32:16 <hardy_89> waldi: pls2explain
161 2011-05-04T16:32:37 <hardy_89> waldi: if you're free right now.
162 2011-05-04T16:32:54 <dreimark> hardy_89: do you have activated env ?
163 2011-05-04T16:33:29 <hardy_89> dreimark: ah...No.
164 2011-05-04T16:33:39 *** gwork
165 2011-05-04T16:36:15 *** gwork
166 2011-05-04T16:38:08 *** gwork
167 2011-05-04T16:38:31 *** gwork
168 2011-05-04T16:40:22 *** gwork
169 2011-05-04T16:40:45 *** gwork
170 2011-05-04T16:41:58 <hardy_89> dreimark: now i get this -->http://paste.pocoo.org/show/382815/
171 2011-05-04T16:42:38 *** gwork
172 2011-05-04T16:43:05 <hardy_89> dreimark: i guess i triggered the venv correctly :S
173 2011-05-04T16:43:21 *** gwork
174 2011-05-04T16:44:52 *** gwork
175 2011-05-04T16:45:15 <dreimark> hardy_89: this is not moin-2 or ?
176 2011-05-04T16:45:15 *** gwork
177 2011-05-04T16:45:30 <dreimark> because of /Users/himanshuawasthi/Downloads/moin-1.9.3/MoinMoin/conftest.py
178 2011-05-04T16:46:18 <hardy_89> dreimark: ah..the root folder says moin-2.0
179 2011-05-04T16:46:45 <hardy_89> dreimark: or is it just named that way although its not
180 2011-05-04T16:46:51 <hardy_89> dreimark: i cloned it
181 2011-05-04T16:47:07 *** gwork
182 2011-05-04T16:47:30 *** gwork
183 2011-05-04T16:49:21 *** gwork
184 2011-05-04T16:49:48 *** gwork
185 2011-05-04T16:52:06 *** gwork
186 2011-05-04T16:52:17 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: this is what i'm supposed to clone sarge. right?
187 2011-05-04T16:52:27 <dreimark> hardy_89: what is sarge?
188 2011-05-04T16:52:38 <hardy_89> dreimark: well :)
189 2011-05-04T16:52:46 <hardy_89> dreimark: that means Sir
190 2011-05-04T16:52:57 <dreimark> you should do http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/admin/install.html
191 2011-05-04T16:53:16 <dreimark> ongoing from downloading section
192 2011-05-04T16:53:31 *** gwork
193 2011-05-04T16:54:09 <hardy_89> dreimark: i had https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0 till now
194 2011-05-04T16:54:13 <hardy_89> dreimark: will do it
195 2011-05-04T16:54:20 *** gwork
196 2011-05-04T16:54:34 <dreimark> hardy_89: discuss with thomas if he wants that title, usually we just use our names
197 2011-05-04T16:54:57 <dreimark> hardy_89: bitbucket is fine too
198 2011-05-04T16:55:08 <hardy_89> dreimark: i've been using that for quite a while now..yet i'll ask him :)
199 2011-05-04T16:55:47 *** gwork
200 2011-05-04T16:56:35 *** gwork
201 2011-05-04T16:56:57 *** gwork
202 2011-05-04T16:58:50 *** gwork
203 2011-05-04T16:59:12 *** gwork
204 2011-05-04T17:01:05 *** gwork
205 2011-05-04T17:01:26 *** gwork
206 2011-05-04T17:03:19 *** gwork
207 2011-05-04T17:03:43 *** gwork
208 2011-05-04T17:04:11 <hardy_89> dreimark: i guess this is how it should run --> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/382827/
209 2011-05-04T17:05:34 *** gwork
210 2011-05-04T17:05:56 *** gwork
211 2011-05-04T17:06:04 *** Marchael
212 2011-05-04T17:07:49 *** hardy_89
213 2011-05-04T17:07:49 *** gwork
214 2011-05-04T17:08:10 *** gwork
215 2011-05-04T17:10:25 *** gwork
216 2011-05-04T17:12:18 *** gwork
217 2011-05-04T17:12:41 *** gwork
218 2011-05-04T17:33:06 <dreimark> hardy_89_afk: this is not py.test 1.3.4
219 2011-05-04T17:33:19 <dreimark> do you have run quickinstall ?
220 2011-05-04T17:33:51 <dreimark> of course you have to refactor the tests for py.test-2.x
221 2011-05-04T17:38:57 *** hardy_89_afk
222 2011-05-04T17:39:08 <hardy_89> dreimark: quickinstall?
223 2011-05-04T17:54:19 <dreimark> hardy_89: you readed the page I showed ?
224 2011-05-04T17:54:50 <dreimark> http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/admin/install.html#developer-install
225 2011-05-04T17:55:32 <hardy_89> dreimark: i has Mac
226 2011-05-04T17:57:20 <hardy_89> dreimark: i have pytest-2.0.2 installed currently
227 2011-05-04T17:57:34 <hardy_89> dreimark: now how do i install a lower version
228 2011-05-04T17:57:49 <hardy_89> dreimark: cos sudo pip install gave me this version by default
229 2011-05-04T18:00:38 *** ronny
230 2011-05-04T18:07:45 <dreimark> hardy_89: can't u execute quickinstall ?
231 2011-05-04T18:07:59 <dreimark> waldi: ^
232 2011-05-04T18:08:33 <dreimark> hardy_89: you need much more than py.test for moin
233 2011-05-04T18:09:44 <hardy_89> dreimark: i did it
234 2011-05-04T18:10:40 <dreimark> and why do you have now pytest-2.0.2 ?
235 2011-05-04T18:11:10 <hardy_89> dreimark: i had. i did quickinstall after you gave me that link
236 2011-05-04T18:11:29 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/1c835a7297ea/setup.py#l91
237 2011-05-04T18:11:42 <dreimark> that is the version matching in setup.py
238 2011-05-04T18:12:06 <dreimark> quickinstall makes the env dir
239 2011-05-04T18:12:46 <dreimark> and did not install site-packages
240 2011-05-04T18:13:15 <dreimark> then it installs everything needed
241 2011-05-04T18:13:32 <dreimark> by using setup.py
242 2011-05-04T18:13:48 <hardy_89> dreimark: seems so. its still installing all required dependencies,
243 2011-05-04T18:15:53 <dreimark> ok, but why do you have pytest-2.0.2 ?
244 2011-05-04T18:17:27 <hardy_89> dreimark: i installed it earlier.
245 2011-05-04T18:20:39 <hardy_89> dreimark: let this quickinstall unpack and finish off. I'll then check what all new things i got.
246 2011-05-04T18:20:45 <hardy_89> and let you know
247 2011-05-04T18:24:56 <hardy_89> dreimark: quickinstall is done.
248 2011-05-04T18:41:01 <hardy_89> dreimark: is this how a test session should be --> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/382881/
249 2011-05-04T18:41:06 <hardy_89> dreimark: pls2check
250 2011-05-04T18:47:58 *** ronny
251 2011-05-04T19:19:25 *** pkumar
252 2011-05-04T19:22:26 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/382881/
253 2011-05-04T19:22:40 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: this how a test session should be?
254 2011-05-04T19:23:38 <dreimark> hardy_89: :)
255 2011-05-04T19:24:02 <hardy_89> dreimark: how should i take it? :)
256 2011-05-04T19:24:22 <dreimark> as good
257 2011-05-04T19:24:49 <dreimark> later on it did not have to test "env"
258 2011-05-04T19:25:08 <dreimark> but that is how it currently is
259 2011-05-04T19:25:20 <dreimark> hardy_89: ^
260 2011-05-04T19:26:24 <dreimark> bbl
261 2011-05-04T19:26:37 <hardy_89> dreimark: all right. i did not paste the error part here.
262 2011-05-04T19:26:44 <hardy_89> dreimark: thats for me actually :)
263 2011-05-04T19:27:05 <hardy_89> dreimark: thanks Reimar :)
264 2011-05-04T19:27:15 <dreimark> well we have only to take care on MoinMoin tests, not on stuff of the env dirs
265 2011-05-04T19:27:19 *** greg_f
266 2011-05-04T19:27:30 <hardy_89> ok
267 2011-05-04T19:27:49 <hardy_89> that reduces the job a bit
268 2011-05-04T19:29:01 <hardy_89> pkumar: hey
269 2011-05-04T19:29:30 <pkumar> hardy_89: hi
270 2011-05-04T20:25:45 *** ronny
271 2011-05-04T20:27:26 *** ronny
272 2011-05-04T20:37:41 *** MattMaker
273 2011-05-04T20:46:50 *** hardy_89
274 2011-05-04T21:13:05 *** sinha
275 2011-05-04T21:13:21 *** m4k3r
276 2011-05-04T21:34:34 *** MattMaker
277 2011-05-04T21:34:48 *** MattMaker
278 2011-05-04T21:49:47 *** MattMaker
279 2011-05-04T22:24:17 <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 214:0f501a426b50 2.0/MoinMoin/templates/ (5 files):
280 2011-05-04T22:24:17 <CIA-25> HTML5 <input> Tag attribute "required" added additional to the required class definition.
281 2011-05-04T22:24:17 <CIA-25> This indicates that the input field's value is required in order to submit the form. On HTML5 capable browsers the form is not send until the value is set.
282 2011-05-04T22:24:54 * dreimark that is pretty nice for the "forgotten" textcha cycle, it needs not to reload the content
283 2011-05-04T22:36:06 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: sinha: I think we should solve #18 with the autofocus attribute of HTML5
284 2011-05-04T22:37:46 <dreimark> see my last comment on that issue
285 2011-05-04T22:41:37 <sinha> dreimark: yes it works as desired. should we also keep some fallback script for html5 non-compliant browsers ?
286 2011-05-04T22:49:25 <dreimark> yes, we need that for some time - i am not sure how long
287 2011-05-04T22:50:45 <dreimark> we have to discuss this compatibility stuff with all devs.
288 2011-05-04T22:51:26 <dreimark> sometimes i think we should not do that, because moin-2 is in very much things very different and requireing a html5 capable browser makes sense
289 2011-05-04T22:52:35 *** pkumar
290 2011-05-04T22:56:26 * sinha going through HTML5 guidebooks to get the idea of whats new there !
291 2011-05-04T22:56:33 <dreimark> :)
292 2011-05-04T22:57:35 <dreimark> sinha: http://wiki.python-forum.de/PythonBarCamp2011/HTML5
293 2011-05-04T22:58:02 <dreimark> some stuff from the barcamp
294 2011-05-04T22:59:43 * sinha will go through the links, just bought the book HTML5 Up and Running - Mark Pilgrim
295 2011-05-04T23:09:05 <ThomasWaldmann> re
296 2011-05-04T23:24:09 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: later we need also http://slides.html5rocks.com/#drag-out
297 2011-05-04T23:56:59 *** pkumar
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