1 2011-04-25T00:00:22 * ThomasWaldmann filed a image converter bug
2 2011-04-25T00:07:08 <dreimark> we need at least something which gets the mimetype
3 2011-04-25T00:07:36 * dreimark gets something for dinner
4 2011-04-25T00:17:16 <ThomasWaldmann> the mimetype can sometimes be derived from filename
5 2011-04-25T00:18:00 <ThomasWaldmann> but we maybe want a comment, maybe a way to use a different subitem name than the filename
6 2011-04-25T00:41:17 *** hardy_89
7 2011-04-25T00:47:37 *** hardy_89
8 2011-04-25T00:53:15 <ThomasWaldmann> yay
9 2011-04-25T00:53:29 <ThomasWaldmann> best subitem upload ever starts to work :D
10 2011-04-25T02:39:21 <dreimark> :)
11 2011-04-25T02:46:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i already managed to crash firefox by uploading a ton of pics at once
12 2011-04-25T02:47:00 <ThomasWaldmann> but it works for reasonable amounts
13 2011-04-25T02:54:54 *** MattMaker
14 2011-04-25T02:57:36 <dreimark> re
15 2011-04-25T03:23:47 *** MattMaker
16 2011-04-25T03:40:21 <dreimark> gn
17 2011-04-25T04:56:58 *** MattMaker_
18 2011-04-25T04:59:59 *** MattMaker
19 2011-04-25T04:59:59 *** MattMaker_
20 2011-04-25T05:07:12 *** MattMaker
21 2011-04-25T05:20:12 *** Marchael
22 2011-04-25T05:20:37 <Marchael> moin
23 2011-04-25T05:30:34 *** MattMaker
24 2011-04-25T06:29:30 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: additional info has now been provided. pls2check proposal page.
25 2011-04-25T06:30:05 <hardy_89> dreimark: i need to be guided all the time. i'll do that very often :)
26 2011-04-25T06:32:33 *** Marchael
27 2011-04-25T06:33:17 *** Marchael
28 2011-04-25T06:41:49 *** hardy_89
29 2011-04-25T06:47:46 *** xjjk
30 2011-04-25T06:48:15 *** hardy_89
31 2011-04-25T06:55:59 *** hardy_89
32 2011-04-25T07:04:03 *** kursor
33 2011-04-25T07:40:30 *** xjjk
34 2011-04-25T08:54:13 *** kursor
35 2011-04-25T09:43:47 *** kursor
36 2011-04-25T10:09:55 *** kursor
37 2011-04-25T10:10:26 *** kursor
38 2011-04-25T10:48:26 *** kursor
39 2011-04-25T10:50:54 *** kursor
40 2011-04-25T11:05:32 *** kursor
41 2011-04-25T11:59:03 *** Marchael
42 2011-04-25T12:39:54 *** Marchael
43 2011-04-25T12:41:02 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
44 2011-04-25T12:41:18 <Marchael> hi ThomasWaldmann
45 2011-04-25T12:55:56 *** greg_f
46 2011-04-25T13:00:07 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: btw, have you played with graphviz stuff already, to make diagrams?
47 2011-04-25T13:00:33 <Marchael> yes, but I didn't understand it well
48 2011-04-25T13:01:58 <ThomasWaldmann> might be useful to talk about ideas as a whole
49 2011-04-25T13:02:48 <ThomasWaldmann> and the input format is rather nice for developers and diffs
50 2011-04-25T13:03:02 <Marchael> I have some experience working with graphs on numpy
51 2011-04-25T13:03:18 <Marchael> it is really cool stuff
52 2011-04-25T13:04:13 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, sphinx has graphviz support, so we can easily generate such graphs right inside the docs
53 2011-04-25T13:04:55 <ThomasWaldmann> if you "make docs" from the current repo, you see some rather trivial graph in the admin -> Authorization section
54 2011-04-25T13:06:54 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did you notice that the html docs are integrated in the wiki UI?
55 2011-04-25T13:07:41 <Marchael> yes, but usually I read the source :)
56 2011-04-25T13:09:27 <ThomasWaldmann> you won't see nice graphs in the src :)
57 2011-04-25T13:10:44 * Marchael installing Sphinx
58 2011-04-25T13:11:25 <Marchael> btw, why quickinstall doesn't install it?
59 2011-04-25T13:11:56 <Marchael> or I just forgot to run it :)
60 2011-04-25T13:12:43 <ThomasWaldmann> it is in install_requires, so it should install it if you run it
61 2011-04-25T13:16:44 <Marchael> sphinx-build: Command not found
62 2011-04-25T13:17:16 <ThomasWaldmann> did you activate?
63 2011-04-25T13:17:57 <Marchael> activate what? quickinstall?
64 2011-04-25T13:18:15 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you should read the fine docs :)
65 2011-04-25T13:18:22 <Marchael> :)
66 2011-04-25T13:18:52 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/admin/install.html start there
67 2011-04-25T13:19:57 <ThomasWaldmann> i thought about maybe putting that activate step in a big red box above everything else
68 2011-04-25T13:20:23 <ThomasWaldmann> because it is not just required there, but basically for everything
69 2011-04-25T13:24:04 <ThomasWaldmann> did someone ever have a html link that doesn't make the browser jump to the target when left-clicked?
70 2011-04-25T13:24:34 <ThomasWaldmann> i checked the html (which is generated by jquery), the link markup and the href is valid
71 2011-04-25T13:24:52 <ThomasWaldmann> and if i use middle button to open it in a new tab, it works as expected
72 2011-04-25T13:25:39 <ThomasWaldmann> so something strange is happening when trying to open it in same tab
73 2011-04-25T13:28:36 <ThomasWaldmann> same thing happens in chrome and ff4 btw
74 2011-04-25T13:31:05 <ThomasWaldmann> server logs show target url has been served with 200, but browser doesn't show it
75 2011-04-25T13:31:27 <Marchael> ctrl+R?
76 2011-04-25T13:34:17 <ThomasWaldmann> doesn't change anything, still shows old page
77 2011-04-25T13:34:35 <ThomasWaldmann> (source page, not target page)
78 2011-04-25T13:35:22 <ThomasWaldmann> strange effect
79 2011-04-25T13:35:29 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: xorAxAx: waldi: any idea?
80 2011-04-25T13:36:26 <waldi> remove jquery from the equation
81 2011-04-25T13:39:09 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: what html?
82 2011-04-25T13:40:07 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: that's hardly possible, because the thing i am testing is based on jquery :)
83 2011-04-25T13:40:33 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: then the culprit is jquery
84 2011-04-25T13:40:41 <ThomasWaldmann> https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload that stuff
85 2011-04-25T13:41:20 <waldi> it is known to interfer with links. as open in new tab works, the logic applied by the browser is correct
86 2011-04-25T13:42:21 <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/377808/ line 29
87 2011-04-25T13:43:08 <waldi> this is no valid html
88 2011-04-25T13:43:38 <TheSheep> waldi: what's invalid in it?
89 2011-04-25T13:44:40 <waldi> TheSheep: there is no data-id attribute in html
90 2011-04-25T13:45:00 <TheSheep> waldi: there is
91 2011-04-25T13:45:25 <TheSheep> waldi: in html5
92 2011-04-25T13:46:00 <TheSheep> waldi: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/#custom
93 2011-04-25T13:46:05 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i guess i start from the original jquery-upload files and see if it makes a difference
94 2011-04-25T13:46:31 <ThomasWaldmann> i have thrown out all stuff i didn't need from their example implementation, maybe i threw out too much
95 2011-04-25T13:46:33 <TheSheep> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/elements.html#embedding-custom-non-visible-data-with-the-data-attributes
96 2011-04-25T13:47:01 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: are you sure the browser is not just downloading the file in the background?
97 2011-04-25T13:47:43 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: the target is the show view, so it should show the page, with theme, content area etc
98 2011-04-25T13:47:50 <ThomasWaldmann> it is not a direct download link
99 2011-04-25T13:48:46 <ThomasWaldmann> newbase is the parent item btw (currently hardcoded), all files uploaded are created as subitems there
100 2011-04-25T13:50:58 <dreimark> moin
101 2011-04-25T13:53:12 <ThomasWaldmann> http://awesomescreenshot.com/082bx8311
102 2011-04-25T13:54:49 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: you should use test.moinmo.in for screensc
103 2011-04-25T13:54:52 <dreimark> hots
104 2011-04-25T13:54:55 <dreimark> -c
105 2011-04-25T13:55:13 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i have a nice plugin for those, much better :)
106 2011-04-25T13:55:42 <dreimark> it should send to moin
107 2011-04-25T13:56:06 <ThomasWaldmann> it's temporary stuff, so why should it?
108 2011-04-25T13:56:29 <dreimark> because we can do by moin also this image serving
109 2011-04-25T13:56:38 <dreimark> and generating nice urls and diffs
110 2011-04-25T13:57:41 <ThomasWaldmann> but i can't edit it there :)
111 2011-04-25T13:58:11 * dreimark tries
112 2011-04-25T14:03:39 *** franklin_
113 2011-04-25T14:06:00 *** franklin
114 2011-04-25T14:13:24 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/377818/
115 2011-04-25T14:13:35 <dreimark> why is redirect not working as expected
116 2011-04-25T14:13:59 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: I was looking for "admin -> Authorization section" but didn't find anything, so could you point me to link on wiki or other docs?
117 2011-04-25T14:15:27 <ThomasWaldmann> grep for redirect
118 2011-04-25T14:15:49 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: you need to look in your local sphinx docs
119 2011-04-25T14:16:06 <ThomasWaldmann> i didn't upload the new version yet
120 2011-04-25T14:16:35 <ThomasWaldmann> just make docs, start moin, "More" -> docs :)
121 2011-04-25T14:17:48 <Marchael> oh, cool
122 2011-04-25T14:18:25 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: and i don't think the member= stuff in line 18 would work
123 2011-04-25T14:22:04 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: /Bild6?member=drawing.png
124 2011-04-25T14:22:14 <dreimark> seems to be correct
125 2011-04-25T14:24:11 *** kursor
126 2011-04-25T14:29:01 <dreimark> i don't need the member
127 2011-04-25T14:30:54 * dreimark breakfast
128 2011-04-25T14:38:00 <ThomasWaldmann> https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload/issues/202
129 2011-04-25T14:38:29 <ThomasWaldmann> i could reproduce the issue with mostly original files, so it wasn't due to my simplifications
130 2011-04-25T15:25:45 *** sinha
131 2011-04-25T16:17:16 *** sinha
132 2011-04-25T16:41:57 *** Marchael
133 2011-04-25T18:22:53 *** ronny
134 2011-04-25T18:26:51 *** ronny
135 2011-04-25T18:42:10 *** ronny
136 2011-04-25T18:43:35 *** ronny
137 2011-04-25T18:52:48 *** kursor
138 2011-04-25T19:19:59 *** Marchael
139 2011-04-25T19:23:39 *** greg_f
140 2011-04-25T20:02:20 <ThomasWaldmann> teh final countdown :D
141 2011-04-25T20:03:04 <Marchael> Should I start to be a nervous?
142 2011-04-25T20:03:07 <Marchael> :)
143 2011-04-25T20:04:51 <ThomasWaldmann> it won't change the outcome, so: no :)
144 2011-04-25T20:06:16 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: are you know result beforehand?
145 2011-04-25T20:07:18 <ThomasWaldmann> well, i know the likely outcome. but it will be only sure if google tells you, so we won't.
146 2011-04-25T20:10:50 <Marchael> Well, let's not hurry the inevitable :)
147 2011-04-25T20:15:42 *** Marchael
148 2011-04-25T20:15:48 *** Marchael
149 2011-04-25T20:24:44 *** ronny
150 2011-04-25T20:26:49 *** ronny
151 2011-04-25T20:55:42 *** sinha
152 2011-04-25T20:58:24 *** pyfex
153 2011-04-25T21:03:39 <Marchael> oh
154 2011-04-25T21:04:07 <Marchael> This is one of the greatest days in my life!
155 2011-04-25T21:04:16 <Marchael> I was accepted
156 2011-04-25T21:04:36 <ThomasWaldmann> hey :)
157 2011-04-25T21:05:03 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like they sent out emails in-time
158 2011-04-25T21:05:20 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: the greatest thx to you!
159 2011-04-25T21:05:55 <ThomasWaldmann> you're welcome. thanks to google for doing SOC. :)
160 2011-04-25T21:07:03 * sinha so happy :)
161 2011-04-25T21:07:21 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: Thanks :)
162 2011-04-25T21:09:38 <diofeher> congratz for all students accepted :P
163 2011-04-25T21:10:20 <Marchael> ok, looks like I will get a lot of work this summer, So I need to celebrate this
164 2011-04-25T21:10:49 <Marchael> drink some vodka and fed up my bear.
165 2011-04-25T21:10:55 <Marchael> :)
166 2011-04-25T21:11:20 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, for all the accepted students: we have about a month now to think through your proposals a bit more
167 2011-04-25T21:11:43 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: how many students got selected ?
168 2011-04-25T21:11:44 <ThomasWaldmann> (more than what was possible in the sometimes short time before your acceptance)
169 2011-04-25T21:11:53 <sinha> and btw my name isnt showing on the list
170 2011-04-25T21:11:57 <sinha> but i got the mail
171 2011-04-25T21:12:01 <sinha> is something wrong
172 2011-04-25T21:12:41 <diofeher> http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011
173 2011-04-25T21:12:45 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: maybe a melange bug :)
174 2011-04-25T21:13:01 <diofeher> sinha, u got accepted
175 2011-04-25T21:13:17 <sinha> diofeher : okay i take your word.
176 2011-04-25T21:13:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: it shows your name in the list
177 2011-04-25T21:13:49 <ThomasWaldmann> but the server seems a bit loaded, so it takes a while
178 2011-04-25T21:13:51 <diofeher> 4 students in moin, same the last year
179 2011-04-25T21:13:53 <sinha> yes now it does
180 2011-04-25T21:13:58 <sinha> okay
181 2011-04-25T21:14:08 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann, hey, i got accepted too this year ^^ gonna work with javascript
182 2011-04-25T21:14:12 * ThomasWaldmann imagines 5000 people pressing reload now and then :)
183 2011-04-25T21:14:33 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: congrats :)
184 2011-04-25T21:14:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i also played with js the last 2 days, bit got nothing for it :D
185 2011-04-25T21:14:53 <ThomasWaldmann> but*
186 2011-04-25T21:15:04 <sinha> i guess i will also work with js
187 2011-04-25T21:15:13 <sinha> Jquery i guess
188 2011-04-25T21:15:24 <ThomasWaldmann> jquery-file-upload it was in my case
189 2011-04-25T21:15:40 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, sinha, we have to think about where we use what :)
190 2011-04-25T21:15:55 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann, thanks ^^
191 2011-04-25T21:15:56 <sinha> yes ofcourse
192 2011-04-25T21:16:15 <sinha> now i should inform my firends
193 2011-04-25T21:16:28 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: the tree view you made is useful to browser the hierarchy, and have a short listing by default
194 2011-04-25T21:16:51 <sinha> have you merged it ?
195 2011-04-25T21:16:56 <sinha> means in mean repo
196 2011-04-25T21:16:58 <ThomasWaldmann> not yet
197 2011-04-25T21:17:36 <ThomasWaldmann> what i am experimenting with with j-f-u is very nice for upload (and also download)
198 2011-04-25T21:18:17 <ThomasWaldmann> but I think that stuff should be done only flat (only one level of subitems, otherwise it might get too confusing)
199 2011-04-25T21:18:38 *** hardy_89
200 2011-04-25T21:18:55 <ThomasWaldmann> but it will automatically show a flat subitems index also
201 2011-04-25T21:19:18 <ThomasWaldmann> I'll just implement it in parallel for now so we can see what to make out of it.
202 2011-04-25T21:19:25 *** hardy_89
203 2011-04-25T21:19:35 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm
204 2011-04-25T21:19:59 <sinha> currently the index is showing for all the levels
205 2011-04-25T21:20:11 *** hardy_89
206 2011-04-25T21:20:51 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: Thank you sarge :)
207 2011-04-25T21:21:10 <ThomasWaldmann> hardy_89: you got mail? :)
208 2011-04-25T21:21:18 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: yes :)
209 2011-04-25T21:21:19 *** m4k3r
210 2011-04-25T21:22:19 *** hardy_89
211 2011-04-25T21:22:25 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you any of you did not create a homepage on moinmo.in yet, it would be a good time now
212 2011-04-25T21:23:02 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: should i remove that proposal page i created earlier
213 2011-04-25T21:23:10 <sinha> means change the content ?
214 2011-04-25T21:27:21 <happy_hardy89> ThomasWaldmann: done sarge
215 2011-04-25T21:30:01 <ThomasWaldmann> wait a sec, i am preparing the main page right now
216 2011-04-25T21:30:24 <ThomasWaldmann> give me links to your project wiki pages, please
217 2011-04-25T21:31:06 <ThomasWaldmann> (if you did not create them already, you can either create them top-level as Projectname or as YourName/ProjectName
218 2011-04-25T21:32:16 <Marchael> bbl
219 2011-04-25T21:32:27 *** Marchael
220 2011-04-25T21:40:57 <ronny> sup
221 2011-04-25T21:44:49 *** m4k3r
222 2011-04-25T21:50:06 *** happy_hardy89
223 2011-04-25T21:50:21 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011 see the projects table there. create home page / project page as needed.
224 2011-04-25T21:53:38 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: dreimark: xorAxAx: if you want your irc nick documented in that table there, please add it yourself
225 2011-04-25T22:00:19 *** hardy_89
226 2011-04-25T22:13:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hardy_89: http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011 please edit that / create your homepage / your project page
227 2011-04-25T22:14:01 <ThomasWaldmann> and if hardy_89 is your usual irc nick, please fix that also on the wiki page
228 2011-04-25T23:03:08 <sinha> where to subscribe with moin-user mailing list ,means what is the complete address to subscribe ?
229 2011-04-25T23:04:20 <ThomasWaldmann> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
230 2011-04-25T23:10:05 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: is the weekly meeting time already fixed?
231 2011-04-25T23:10:33 <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: done ! but is there any separate list for moin-devs or moin-user is common place
232 2011-04-25T23:12:27 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: i just copied the stuff from last year
233 2011-04-25T23:12:38 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: maybe we should doodle again?
234 2011-04-25T23:12:50 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, please do so :)
235 2011-04-25T23:13:20 <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: most communication happens here, but you should subscribe to moin-user and say hello there also
236 2011-04-25T23:13:39 <ThomasWaldmann> here = on IRC
237 2011-04-25T23:14:30 <sinha> okay
238 2011-04-25T23:14:38 <xorAxAx> sinha: we closed the dev mailinglist because it wasnt used as a way for central developer communication anymore
239 2011-04-25T23:15:45 <sinha> and in moin-user there are only devs or general moin user also ?
240 2011-04-25T23:15:59 <ThomasWaldmann> general
241 2011-04-25T23:17:51 <sinha> so should they know about all the developments ? means wont it be kind of unnecessary notifications to them regarding any development issue.
242 2011-04-25T23:18:02 * ThomasWaldmann often writes stuff on the wiki and posts a link to the ml :)
243 2011-04-25T23:18:28 <xorAxAx> sinha: well, they probably want to know about new developers :)
244 2011-04-25T23:18:55 <ThomasWaldmann> the list is low traffic, if you post there, people will be happy :)
245 2011-04-25T23:19:05 <sinha> :)
246 2011-04-25T23:19:16 <sinha> i am fine with it :)
247 2011-04-25T23:41:59 *** sinha
248 2011-04-25T23:51:21 *** pyfex
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