1 2011-04-08T00:00:11  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: could I ask about searching? If I understand right searching module should be able to convert queries coming from searchbox to whoosh and also show results on separate page.
   2 2011-04-08T00:01:02  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: yes, there should be likely 2 ways to enter queries:
   3 2011-04-08T00:01:29  <ThomasWaldmann> via the search box for simple stuff, via some search query view for complex queries
   4 2011-04-08T00:01:55  <Marchael> second can be done with jinja2 template
   5 2011-04-08T00:02:12  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
   6 2011-04-08T00:02:28  <ThomasWaldmann> but for the beginning, one would start with the search box
   7 2011-04-08T00:03:02  <ThomasWaldmann> and of course, after submitting the query, whoosh will search and come back with results
   8 2011-04-08T00:03:37  <Marchael> ok, do I need implement parser for special queries such as "mimetype:image moin.jpg"?
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  10 2011-04-08T00:06:52  <ThomasWaldmann> afaics, whoosh has a query parser
  11 2011-04-08T00:07:34  <Marchael> I know :)
  12 2011-04-08T00:07:49  <yufra> ThomasWaldmann, I tried using the fs19 backend in moin2 and noticed that there is a linux-specific dependency on /dev/shm
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  15 2011-04-08T00:09:01  <Marchael> then queries can be delivered to whoosh without any changes
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  17 2011-04-08T00:10:26  <ThomasWaldmann> yufra: suggest a fix :)
  18 2011-04-08T00:11:19  <yufra> I have used tempfile.mkdtemp for now
  19 2011-04-08T00:11:43  <yufra> on linux/mac that gets put into something that resembles shared memory (I think)
  20 2011-04-08T00:16:22  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, publish a patch or changeset :)
  21 2011-04-08T00:17:29  <yufra> I want to test it on linux first... the fs19 backend is still broken on mac but I think that is something else to fix first
  22 2011-04-08T00:24:55  <ThomasWaldmann> do you have a traceback?
  23 2011-04-08T00:27:28  <yufra> it was a few days ago, just looking into it again now
  24 2011-04-08T00:27:41  <yufra> testing the patch on linux and then I'll look at the mac one again
  25 2011-04-08T00:29:43  <yufra> hmm, nope same error on my linux copy... do you have a preferable paste site?  or is pastebin.com ok?
  26 2011-04-08T00:29:53  <yufra> ah, I see the topic nevermind :-)
  27 2011-04-08T00:31:40  <yufra> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367538/
  28 2011-04-08T00:32:15  <yufra> I don't know a lot about SQL so I was having trouble debugging the traceback
  29 2011-04-08T00:39:04  <ThomasWaldmann> that's a bug and not platform specific
  30 2011-04-08T00:39:29  <yufra> ok, I'll post a /dev/shm patch in a second
  31 2011-04-08T00:39:34  <ThomasWaldmann> it tries to insert "UserName" twice into a column that should be unique
  32 2011-04-08T00:40:37  <yufra> here is the patch: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367541/
  33 2011-04-08T00:42:51  <yufra> I'll try to figure out where the second UserName is being put in, too
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  35 2011-04-08T00:45:27  <ThomasWaldmann> yufra: instead of tempfile, can you try sqlite:// ?
  36 2011-04-08T00:45:57  <ThomasWaldmann> see where that path finally ends up being used
  37 2011-04-08T00:46:34  <moin5> Hi developers. Could you consider including my cheap patch from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/MonthCalendarMouseOverBrokenWithAmpersandInPageName for 1.9 ?
  38 2011-04-08T00:50:07  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: you are referring to formatter.url, where is it?
  39 2011-04-08T00:52:51  <moin5> It's called a few lines later, with fmtlink = formatter.url(1, daypage.url(request, query), csslink, **attrs) + str(day) + formatter.url(0)
  40 2011-04-08T00:53:37  <moin5> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/70dfb3dea12d/MoinMoin/macro/MonthCalendar.py#l392
  41 2011-04-08T00:56:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, did you do some experiments whether some stuff is now not escaped although it should be?
  42 2011-04-08T00:57:53  <moin5> I am running it live on a productive wiki farm since Do Nov  4 04:59:00 2010 . No problems were reported from our users, and the users first found the problem.
  43 2011-04-08T00:58:16  <moin5> I tested the code with all examples that came to my mind.
  44 2011-04-08T00:58:31  * ThomasWaldmann tries
  45 2011-04-08T00:59:04  <moin5> I did not test with pagenames in languages I don't speak ...
  46 2011-04-08T01:04:04  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, looks good. shall i tell your name in the changeset?
  47 2011-04-08T01:05:48  <moin5> nty
  48 2011-04-08T01:06:15  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  49 2011-04-08T01:06:57  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5777:fa44b15b1ff1 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/MonthCalendar.py: Fix MonthCalendar mouseover for pages with Ampersand in page name (was double-escaping)
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  51 2011-04-08T01:07:19  <yufra> ThomasWaldmann, here is your sqlite:// patch (it crashes at the same username insertion) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367550/
  52 2011-04-08T01:07:53  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: ^^
  53 2011-04-08T01:08:10  <moin5> tyvm
  54 2011-04-08T01:08:22  <ThomasWaldmann> yufra: but it works as well as tempfile would, right?
  55 2011-04-08T01:08:24  <yufra> I had to modify fs19.Index's __init__ method, but a quick grep through the rest of the code looks like there are no other calls to fs19.Index that need to be updated
  56 2011-04-08T01:08:31  <yufra> ThomasWaldmann, correct
  57 2011-04-08T01:09:17  <moin5> The next 1.9 bug on my list is http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/ACLNotWorkingAutoAdminNewPageMailNotification , but I wasn't able to fix it..
  58 2011-04-08T01:10:14  <yufra> but if you can look at that fs19.Index change I would appreciate it... I am not sure if there are indirect calls to it that assume the previous %s/index.db format
  59 2011-04-08T01:10:33  <ThomasWaldmann> yufra: maybe we should just give the full db url
  60 2011-04-08T01:11:05  <yufra> that is what I am doing now, no?
  61 2011-04-08T01:11:31  <yufra> my knowledge of sqlalchemy is poor
  62 2011-04-08T01:12:25  <ThomasWaldmann> i mean including the sqlite://
  63 2011-04-08T01:12:29  <ThomasWaldmann> not just ''
  64 2011-04-08T01:12:32  <yufra> gotcha
  65 2011-04-08T01:12:42  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: I'll have a look
  66 2011-04-08T01:13:08  <moin5> If there is anything I can do :-) ...
  67 2011-04-08T01:13:47  <yufra> your call of course... I think it makes sense to have path actually be a file path (and not require the sqlite prefix)
  68 2011-04-08T01:14:24  <yufra> someone (like me) who is not versed in SQL can ignore the fact that it is an SQL database and treat it as a black box that way
  69 2011-04-08T01:15:22  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: maybe the problem is due to the acl getting effective AFTER the save (and not already at the time when it creates the notification)
  70 2011-04-08T01:15:44  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: can you try to reproduce without autoadmin, just using acls in config and on page?
  71 2011-04-08T01:16:18  <moin5> Nope. I tried that but the problem only occurs with AutoAdmin.
  72 2011-04-08T01:16:36  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, yeah, just continued reading that on the bug page
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  74 2011-04-08T01:17:03  <moin5> kk
  75 2011-04-08T01:27:42  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: i don't see why this should behave strange. maybe something related to __getattr__
  76 2011-04-08T01:31:52  <yufra> ThomasWaldmann, ok I think I found the issue and it is probably specific to me... I have two entries in wiki/data/user, both with the same name
  77 2011-04-08T01:32:00  <moin5> I wasn't able to find the root cause ... At first I though tit might be as MoinMoin/security/autoadmin.py only extends admin, and that is not used when evaluationg the acls for notifications ...
  78 2011-04-08T01:32:17  <yufra> not sure how I managed that, but probably not something that needs to be handled in general
  79 2011-04-08T01:36:15  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: it subclasses the normal Permissions class. so if you use it instead, .read() should behave the same as it is inherited
  80 2011-04-08T01:37:36  <moin5> Yes, but something must be diffrent as it doesn't behave in the same way.
  81 2011-04-08T01:40:03  <yufra> ThomasWaldmann, now I am getting metadata/UUID issues: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/367556/
  82 2011-04-08T01:40:49  <yufra> these probably shouldn't be instances of StoredRouterRevision when being converted, right?
  83 2011-04-08T01:42:32  <ThomasWaldmann> no, seems to be unrelated to __getattr__
  84 2011-04-08T01:42:57  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: well, it calls .read() before sending notifies, so something must be wrong
  85 2011-04-08T01:45:17  <ThomasWaldmann> yufra: looks broken. i still need to find a good place for the uuid stuff, looks like my last 2 tries don't work.
  86 2011-04-08T01:46:07  <moin5> ThomasWaldmann: just to be sure, I look at the same place, we talk about that line: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/fa44b15b1ff1/MoinMoin/Page.py#l863
  87 2011-04-08T01:47:13  <yufra> *nod* If you want any coding/testing done let me know... I'll pop off and on IRC as I have time
  88 2011-04-08T01:50:34  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: yes
  89 2011-04-08T01:51:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: that should call autoadmin class and by inheritance methods from default permissions class
  90 2011-04-08T01:57:00  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: if you have a setup that reproduces the problem, maybe put some logging output at these places
  91 2011-04-08T01:58:05  <moin5> Thomas: You mean like here http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/fa44b15b1ff1/MoinMoin/security/autoadmin.py#l77
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  93 2011-04-08T02:03:22  <ThomasWaldmann> moin5: admin() method is only called if it checks for admin rights (when changing acls)
  94 2011-04-08T02:03:37  <ThomasWaldmann> before it notifies, it checks for read right
  95 2011-04-08T02:05:00  <moin5> Yes: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/fa44b15b1ff1/MoinMoin/Page.py#l863
  96 2011-04-08T02:06:32  <moin5> And the acl of th new page is handled at http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/fa44b15b1ff1/MoinMoin/security/__init__.py#l85
  97 2011-04-08T02:11:59  <moin5> And somewhere in all these functions it doesn't use the #acl set by an AutoAdmin, but it does use the #acl from someone with admin in acl_rights_before.
  98 2011-04-08T02:20:32  <ThomasWaldmann> anyway, i need bed() permission now :)
  99 2011-04-08T02:22:43  <moin5> Me too, I hope it's correctly subclassed.
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 122 2011-04-08T08:26:42  <dreimark> moin
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 124 2011-04-08T09:35:08  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 563:de89a01a1bc2 extensions/data/plugin/action/mailto.py: action.mailto: shows the superuser all email addresses of wikiusers in mailto format
 125 2011-04-08T09:59:05  * dreimark dream from an advanced ui so that the user knows which additional functions he has because of attributes, like superuser 
 126 2011-04-08T10:14:28  * Marchael writining proposal for last 3 days and already rewrited it with blank page 4 times
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 132 2011-04-08T11:56:05  <cosmo_> moin :)
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 137 2011-04-08T12:42:49  <moin3> ThomasWaldmann: I have put my findings on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/ACLNotWorkingAutoAdminNewPageMailNotification .
 138 2011-04-08T12:43:29  <moin3> (But I need to get some food now first.)
 139 2011-04-08T12:57:56  <ThomasWaldmann> moin3: well, what you found for reusing page objects doesn't explain why it does not work with autoadmin
 140 2011-04-08T12:58:17  <ThomasWaldmann> or why it works when not using autoadmin
 141 2011-04-08T12:58:45  <ThomasWaldmann> also, without that reuse it might get slower, acls are checked rather often
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 144 2011-04-08T13:28:51  <moin3> ThomasWaldmann: Yes, it is not a real fix for the problem. But did you read my guess on why it happens?
 145 2011-04-08T14:00:50  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but as I said, that is MAYBE another problem.
 146 2011-04-08T14:01:12  <ThomasWaldmann> we still need to point at the place why it misbehaves with the one and works with the other
 147 2011-04-08T14:01:43  <ThomasWaldmann> if you suspect it is the admin() call, maybe do the Permissions.xxx() call earlier, so it happens in any case
 148 2011-04-08T14:01:52  <ThomasWaldmann> moin3:
 149 2011-04-08T14:21:31  <moin3> ThomasWaldmann. I tried with Permissions.__getattr__(self, 'admin')(pagename) in admin() of autoadmin but it didn't solve the problem.
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 163 2011-04-08T18:20:16  <ThomasWaldmann> reminder: Summer of Code applicants have about 2.5hours left until 19:00 UTC
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 165 2011-04-08T18:21:38  <ThomasWaldmann> try to avoid mission critical issues by not depending on melange, your web connection, your pc, whatever in the last hour or minute
 166 2011-04-08T18:22:17  <ThomasWaldmann> so, submit something reasonable early, not last minute.
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 168 2011-04-08T18:25:34  <ThomasWaldmann> hi jek
 169 2011-04-08T18:29:47  <jek> howdy
 170 2011-04-08T18:30:07  <ThomasWaldmann> soon we'll know :)
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 176 2011-04-08T19:29:24  <ronny> soup
 177 2011-04-08T19:39:09  <ThomasWaldmann> steak :)
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 180 2011-04-08T21:09:21  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, looks like application deadline is over
 181 2011-04-08T21:09:47  <Marchael> 8 minutes ^:)
 182 2011-04-08T21:10:04  <pkumar> Yup!
 183 2011-04-08T21:12:40  <ThomasWaldmann> looks like our stuff was somehow most attractive for students from india :)
 184 2011-04-08T21:14:02  * Marchael knows much about indian coding
 185 2011-04-08T21:14:22  <Marchael> it`s joke :)
 186 2011-04-08T21:14:40  <pkumar> Seems like many applicants from India.
 187 2011-04-08T21:17:19  <pkumar> What would be the approx count of applicants?
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 189 2011-04-08T21:18:14  <Marchael> looks like deadline increase! :)
 190 2011-04-08T21:18:19  <Marchael> time machine
 191 2011-04-08T21:20:07  <Marchael> countdown continue increasing :)
 192 2011-04-08T21:20:43  <ThomasWaldmann> can one still submit?
 193 2011-04-08T21:21:04  <pkumar> Not update at least.
 194 2011-04-08T21:21:26  <Marchael> I don`t know, looks like melange bug or Google just waiting for other proposals
 195 2011-04-08T21:21:28  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: btw, the notification email told me you submitted a NEW proposal at 18:57 UTC
 196 2011-04-08T21:21:43  <Marchael> o_0
 197 2011-04-08T21:22:33  <Marchael> no, I submitted my proposal about 18:00 UTC
 198 2011-04-08T21:22:58  <ThomasWaldmann> strange
 199 2011-04-08T21:23:37  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it took an hour to create all that notification spam
 200 2011-04-08T21:24:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, the good news for you students is that we do not have as many applications as usual
 201 2011-04-08T21:24:46  <pkumar> That is comforting.
 202 2011-04-08T21:24:47  <Marchael> and bad?
 203 2011-04-08T21:24:59  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe due to the fact that it was a bit harder this year to just copy and paste some stuff together :)
 204 2011-04-08T21:25:16  <sinha> its closed now !
 205 2011-04-08T21:25:32  <ThomasWaldmann> the (maybe?) bad news is that we have multiple proposals for same topics
 206 2011-04-08T21:26:22  <ThomasWaldmann> we are allowed to do multiple projects for same topic though, if we think it should be done
 207 2011-04-08T21:27:39  <sinha> how many projects will be mentored (selected) ?
 208 2011-04-08T21:27:53  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, does someone now a person named jesingani?
 209 2011-04-08T21:28:31  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: we do not know yet (and we also do not know yet how many slots we will get)
 210 2011-04-08T21:29:16  <sinha> okay
 211 2011-04-08T21:30:02  <ThomasWaldmann> so, for the next days, keep cool, do impress us by some little moin fixes, look at stuff, communicate with us
 212 2011-04-08T21:31:12  <pkumar> How many students are assigned to a project in general?
 213 2011-04-08T21:32:13  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: I am thinking of going through the documentations (moin,jinja2 etc) more clearly and will go through the functions implementation on which i may have to work ? is it good ? or should i do some coding stuff ?
 214 2011-04-08T21:33:00  <ThomasWaldmann> pkumar: usually one. but for some stuff it might make sense doing it multiple times.
 215 2011-04-08T21:34:04  <ThomasWaldmann> either to choose the better one in the end, or because the proposals are for same big topic, but internally different enough in detail
 216 2011-04-08T21:37:01  <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann: What do you say of the idea about having all the tests inside a single dir?
 217 2011-04-08T21:37:36  <ThomasWaldmann> http://blog.jitbit.com/2011/04/chinese-magic-drive.html lol
 218 2011-04-08T21:37:40  <pkumar> Though it may take some initial effort.
 219 2011-04-08T21:38:48  <sinha> yeah seen that today,chinese really do such nice things :P
 220 2011-04-08T21:38:57  <ThomasWaldmann> matter of taste. but we have bigger issues with the tests than that.
 221 2011-04-08T21:39:22  <Marchael> ;D
 222 2011-04-08T21:42:07  <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann:could you direct me to some link where I could know more about leaking problems of current tests
 223 2011-04-08T21:48:27  <ThomasWaldmann> $ top
 224 2011-04-08T21:48:39  <ThomasWaldmann> then just run them
 225 2011-04-08T21:48:53  <ThomasWaldmann> there is also a related issue on bitbucket issue tracker
 226 2011-04-08T21:49:05  <Marchael> htop is rather better them top
 227 2011-04-08T21:53:44  <pkumar> yup, I just looked both of it.
 228 2011-04-08T21:53:53  <pkumar> htop seems better.
 229 2011-04-08T21:56:21  <pkumar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htop
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