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   5 2011-04-06T00:36:04  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 167:f5028d0f888f 2.0/ (MoinMoin/converter/moinwiki_in.py docs/todo/TODO.dom): inline comments: fix parsing if comment ends at end of line, remove todo
   6 2011-04-06T01:12:04  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 168:7926fa38e797 2.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): update TODO, move some TODOs to the code
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   8 2011-04-06T01:51:35  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 169:0ce973659f45 2.0/docs/todo/ (todo.rst 2.0-TODO TODO.dom TODO.wiki-like-formats-support): merge TODOs into single file
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  11 2011-04-06T02:53:11  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 170:1481cbc12553 2.0/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py util/edit_lock.py wikiutil.py):
  12 2011-04-06T02:53:11  <CIA-25> metadata: only store hostname if we did a successful lookup
  13 2011-04-06T02:53:11  <CIA-25> if lookup fails or is disallowed, do not store fake data.
  14 2011-04-06T02:53:11  <CIA-25> get_hostname: simplify, return None if it is disallowed or fails
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  17 2011-04-06T03:35:15  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 171:0574bae2bf7c 2.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
  18 2011-04-06T03:35:15  <CIA-25> GivenAuth: require correct coding, update docs accordingly
  19 2011-04-06T03:35:15  <CIA-25> remove some unused functions from wikiutil
  20 2011-04-06T03:49:53  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 172:0b2454d84586 2.0/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil: minor changes (reordered stuff, comments)
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  25 2011-04-06T05:27:06  <Marchael> moin
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  28 2011-04-06T05:40:04  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: hi
  29 2011-04-06T05:40:27  <Marchael> does moin have any searching support in sqla?
  30 2011-04-06T05:42:49  <Marchael> Whoosh is using for indexing and searching documents, but it isn`t necessarily to store documents data in whoosh. Sqlalchemy or other moin backend is will be better for it. So I offering to store index documents in whoosh and store content in sqla.
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  56 2011-04-06T11:51:06  <cosmos_thought_> moin :D
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  67 2011-04-06T15:54:46  <sinha> dreimark: tree view for index , now working for all unicode chars , changeset pushed at https://bitbucket.org/sinha/moin-2.0/  repo and a demo could be seen at  http://web.iiit.ac.in/~akash.sinhaug08/moin/Web%20Tutorial.html
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  74 2011-04-06T16:47:47  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 173:89f50aed143f 2.0/MoinMoin/ (6 files in 4 dirs): move mimetype related code from wikiutil to util.mimetype
  75 2011-04-06T17:07:44  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/PagenameContainingColumn that can be funny
  76 2011-04-06T17:07:52  <dreimark> look at the second workaround
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  78 2011-04-06T17:32:45  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: evil bug :)
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  80 2011-04-06T18:30:18  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: why do you use a title for each item? aren't all those bubbles rather annoying (esp. since they do not give anything useful)?
  81 2011-04-06T18:37:55  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: i am using title as identifier
  82 2011-04-06T18:38:27  <sinha> if it is that annoying i can use "name" for the same purpose
  83 2011-04-06T18:45:13  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, please rather less bubbles :)
  84 2011-04-06T18:47:29  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: okay will update it soon !
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  86 2011-04-06T19:10:39  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: hi! Do you read my last comments?
  87 2011-04-06T19:12:21  <Marchael> about storing documents in sqla
  88 2011-04-06T19:13:22  <Marchael> I try to think my words and decided what it is will look strange
  89 2011-04-06T19:15:15  <Marchael> I need advice about where I can store documents and how I can do search in them
  90 2011-04-06T19:16:38  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: you have to differentiate between "authoritative" (real) storage backends and index (which may also store some stuff, but can be deleted and rebuilt without data loss)
  91 2011-04-06T19:17:29  <ThomasWaldmann> so, for us that means: storage.backends minus "indexing", "router", "acl", etc -> real storage backends
  92 2011-04-06T19:17:49  <ThomasWaldmann> whoosh, sqlalchemy-based index -> just index
  93 2011-04-06T19:22:56  * Marchael confused
  94 2011-04-06T19:25:49  <Marchael> I understand differeance between storage backend and indexes, but if full text search search using whoosh then I have no choice except storing whole document with it/
  95 2011-04-06T19:26:10  <Marchael> s/if/if I need/
  96 2011-04-06T19:26:45  <Marchael> or perform search in backend
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  98 2011-04-06T19:32:32  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: i don't think that's true
  99 2011-04-06T19:32:59  <ThomasWaldmann> usually you have that stored=True option, but it can also be false
 100 2011-04-06T19:33:18  <ThomasWaldmann> then it WILL index all you give to it, but not store the text 1:1
 101 2011-04-06T19:33:27  <Marchael> mmm
 102 2011-04-06T19:34:26  <Marchael> heh, then I can just design schema with index of document`s content and additional field `link` to backend
 103 2011-04-06T19:36:18  <ThomasWaldmann> you should already have that "link" :)
 104 2011-04-06T19:36:57  <Marchael> I mean link to document`s location in backend(table or absolute path)
 105 2011-04-06T19:43:52  <ThomasWaldmann> totally wrong way
 106 2011-04-06T19:46:05  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
 107 2011-04-06T19:46:21  <Marchael> why? I I found document in index then I can get this by value in search results.
 108 2011-04-06T19:46:32  <Marchael> :(
 109 2011-04-06T19:47:39  <Marchael> s/I/If/
 110 2011-04-06T19:56:06  <Marchael> или забить и взять Wild Fire а потом отдельно купить планшетник
 111 2011-04-06T19:56:27  <Marchael> oops, wrong channel :)
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 113 2011-04-06T20:16:12  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: Tree view updated.No more bubble on hovering over links.here https://bitbucket.org/sinha/moin-2.0/
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 118 2011-04-06T21:16:11  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: also can you answer my question please?
 119 2011-04-06T21:23:10  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: you don't store absolute pathes or table names
 120 2011-04-06T21:23:48  <ThomasWaldmann> the only good way to "address" an item / revision is by name/uuid and revno
 121 2011-04-06T21:24:02  <ThomasWaldmann> if one indexes more than one wiki, additionally the interwikiname
 122 2011-04-06T21:31:26  <Marchael> so i can use select query to get content from sqla
 123 2011-04-06T21:40:59  <ThomasWaldmann> depends what you mean by "content". row content, yes. :)
 124 2011-04-06T21:46:32  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: sorry, If I become very annoying...but what I say about this search schema? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/366735/
 125 2011-04-06T21:46:45  <Marchael> s/I/you/
 126 2011-04-06T21:47:28  <Marchael> oh. looks like I`m need get back to bed :)
 127 2011-04-06T21:55:41  * ThomasWaldmann looks
 128 2011-04-06T21:57:35  <ThomasWaldmann> well, there is quite some stuff missing. e.g. the name? why id and uuid (what's the difference?)?
 129 2011-04-06T21:59:15  <Marchael> If I understand right each revision have own uuid
 130 2011-04-06T21:59:39  <Marchael> but it is the same for all revision, isn`t?
 131 2011-04-06T22:02:56  <Marchael> *but id
 132 2011-04-06T22:06:38  <ThomasWaldmann> no, each revision has item's uuid
 133 2011-04-06T22:06:44  <ThomasWaldmann> (same)
 134 2011-04-06T22:08:30  <Marchael> so id will be odd
 135 2011-04-06T22:13:05  <Marchael> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/366754/
 136 2011-04-06T22:23:06  <ThomasWaldmann> well, name as text is maybe overkill. but one might use a special analyser
 137 2011-04-06T22:27:04  * Marchael reading http://packages.python.org/Whoosh/analysis.html
 138 2011-04-06T22:40:57  <Marchael> bbl
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