1 2011-03-06T00:07:56 <ThomasWaldmann> any objections against killing MoinMoin/search/* ?
2 2011-03-06T00:16:49 *** m4k3r
3 2011-03-06T01:36:42 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 73:d79a50e0a42d 2.0/MoinMoin/ (templates/base.html themes/__init__.py): remove unused output_mimetype, hardcode output_charset (we'll ever use utf-8)
4 2011-03-06T02:09:01 *** izibi
5 2011-03-06T02:28:09 *** Pranav_rcmas
6 2011-03-06T03:16:10 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 74:079c61438b3f 2.0/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): only compute revisions list if navigation is shown
7 2011-03-06T03:35:01 *** ronny
8 2011-03-06T04:20:44 *** Pranav_rcmas
9 2011-03-06T04:25:11 *** kasun
10 2011-03-06T04:31:45 *** Pranav_rcmas
11 2011-03-06T05:50:17 *** Marchael
12 2011-03-06T06:48:14 *** MattMaker
13 2011-03-06T07:38:56 *** Marchael
14 2011-03-06T07:41:27 *** MattMaker
15 2011-03-06T07:45:59 *** Pranav_rcmas
16 2011-03-06T08:02:21 *** Pranav_rcmas
17 2011-03-06T09:03:23 *** kasun
18 2011-03-06T09:24:45 *** Marchael
19 2011-03-06T09:46:16 *** m4k3r
20 2011-03-06T10:05:22 <dreimark> moin
21 2011-03-06T10:05:47 <dreimark> we should have a preview or summary Item support type
22 2011-03-06T10:06:41 <dreimark> that should be shown instead of the big sized item if the user has configured that in his settings
23 2011-03-06T10:08:50 <dreimark> or it should be shown for video and audio items and should require an extra click for fetching the data
24 2011-03-06T10:08:52 <MattMaker> and then, optionally, search results
25
26 could show those
27 2011-03-06T10:09:53 <dreimark> and can be standardized icon/image for a mimetype or a preview in a format fast to access for a browser
28 2011-03-06T10:10:58 <MattMaker> and then tile them on a Google-Maps-style viewer so we can zoom out and fly around
29 2011-03-06T10:11:19 <MattMaker> sorry, I get carried away :D
30 2011-03-06T10:11:23 <dreimark> cu
31 2011-03-06T10:12:03 <MattMaker> I mean, overextend humorously because of enthusiasm
32 2011-03-06T10:15:51 <MattMaker> I seriously do like data visualizations, though, and it would be interesting to see the wiki data transformed in various visual-analysis manners of renderings
33 2011-03-06T10:17:04 <MattMaker> preview or summary item support type is a good idea... maybe even more of a win than indexing, since it could save a lot of data from being transferred
34 2011-03-06T10:18:12 <MattMaker> even faster than looking something up in an index, is not looking at all :D
35 2011-03-06T10:19:45 <MattMaker> Lately I have been following the email discussion lists for waveinabox and waveprotocol ... they are currently wrestling with many of the same design questions as moin2
36 2011-03-06T10:22:34 <dreimark> we should have realtime collaboration
37 2011-03-06T10:23:00 <dreimark> merging and continuing on the mobwrite project would also be nice to have
38 2011-03-06T10:23:20 <dreimark> or plugable and exchangable by etherpad
39 2011-03-06T10:25:08 <MattMaker> indeed
40 2011-03-06T10:25:27 <MattMaker> I was thinking today about what that would mean in terms of Revisions
41 2011-03-06T10:26:09 <dreimark> only if you save then it becomes a real revision
42 2011-03-06T10:26:54 <dreimark> in etherpad also any keystroke is in revision history
43 2011-03-06T10:27:12 <MattMaker> anyone who saves, it is their revision? it might want to have multiple names on that revision if there were changes by multiple authors
44 2011-03-06T10:27:44 <dreimark> no, because you don't need to merge
45 2011-03-06T10:28:06 <dreimark> the one who saves it saves everything
46 2011-03-06T10:28:20 <dreimark> you work always on the same data
47 2011-03-06T10:30:22 <dreimark> the timslider shows by a star when it was saved
48 2011-03-06T10:30:41 <dreimark> I do miss there a comment function to add a milestone message
49 2011-03-06T10:31:47 <MattMaker> realtime might be different enough from wiki, that it wouldn't be a moin2 core feature... but I have used both and I like both
50 2011-03-06T10:33:05 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-storage-editor-amartani/
51 2011-03-06T10:33:15 <dreimark> was a soc project not yet merged
52 2011-03-06T10:33:18 <MattMaker> I like the way soundcloud does comments. it's a little mark on a time bar that shows a tooltip message as speech bubble when you hover over it
53 2011-03-06T10:35:02 <MattMaker> oops, my Firefox crashed
54 2011-03-06T10:38:37 <MattMaker> today I have been learning how different ways of python packaging and virtualenv work, by making two copies of the project, making one change, running the setup in both, and then comparing the two env/ folders using a visual diff application
55 2011-03-06T10:45:00 <dreimark> much differences?
56 2011-03-06T10:48:43 <MattMaker> only very small ones between setuptools and distribute; slightly larger ones in the case of pip install -e . vs. python setup.py develop
57 2011-03-06T10:49:13 <MattMaker> (all in the virtualenv)
58 2011-03-06T10:50:01 <MattMaker> There are so many other packaging add-ons to choose from also, I have not tested any of those yet
59 2011-03-06T10:51:55 <MattMaker> bento, buildout, paver...
60 2011-03-06T10:52:49 <MattMaker> although most of them build on top of existing things
61 2011-03-06T10:53:40 <MattMaker> which is aggravating, because my real motivation was finding a consistent way to get rid of the "no previously-included files matching '%s' found under directory '%s'" messages that come from distutils/setuptools egg_info command
62 2011-03-06T10:53:52 <MattMaker> and if you build on top of course those are still there
63 2011-03-06T10:55:46 <MattMaker> and for no particular reason, those particular messages *have* a verbosity level but the higher level commands *don't use that setting* even though it's there
64 2011-03-06T10:57:17 <MattMaker> looking at http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-storage-editor-amartani/ , I see some interesting differences in features, but I am not sure what I am looking at, is there a wiki page telling about this branch?
65 2011-03-06T11:00:07 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/RealTimeEditing2009
66 2011-03-06T11:00:27 <dreimark> this repo is mostly in the state of 2009
67 2011-03-06T11:02:34 <MattMaker> ah, very interesting
68 2011-03-06T11:07:08 <MattMaker> A group of us in a small org use email lists, a wiki, and google wave, all in attempts to communicate and collaborate on shared goals ... I am often looking for ways to make these different formats work together
69 2011-03-06T11:07:36 <MattMaker> with each one, some people are inspired to participate and others not
70 2011-03-06T11:09:53 <MattMaker> I like this idea of keeping the realtime part as a separate feature that feeds into the "base" wiki, much like fckeditor vs. textarea
71 2011-03-06T11:13:24 <dreimark> yes
72 2011-03-06T11:14:42 <dreimark> it is also a difference that every key stroke is visible to anyone else
73 2011-03-06T11:14:53 <MattMaker> yes
74 2011-03-06T11:14:55 <dreimark> some people like to hide that they did typos
75 2011-03-06T11:14:58 * MattMaker changes the feeling
76 2011-03-06T11:15:06 <MattMaker> er, it changes the feeling
77 2011-03-06T11:16:17 <MattMaker> yes, a colleague confided to me that she felt guilty about watching the updates happen live on google wave, seeing the things people wrote but then thought better of and restated differently
78 2011-03-06T11:19:13 *** maker
79 2011-03-06T11:19:35 <dreimark> i have heard from some surveys where not only at the input is shown. they look also on how the data was entered
80 2011-03-06T11:20:00 *** m4k3r
81 2011-03-06T11:22:31 <MattMaker> surveys? like a website using heatmaps to see what questions you spend time on?
82 2011-03-06T11:27:56 <dreimark> not only the time also how you type into the input field
83 2011-03-06T11:30:02 <MattMaker> clever. I wonder what they learn from it.
84 2011-03-06T11:56:58 <CIA-64> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 553:814c6075c0b0 extensions/data/plugin/macro/ListPages.py: macro.ListPages: reverse order implemented
85 2011-03-06T12:02:59 *** maker
86 2011-03-06T12:09:03 <dreimark> bbl
87 2011-03-06T12:12:09 <CIA-64> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 554:fde88c905588 extensions/data/plugin/macro/ListPages.py: macro.ListPages: doc strings fixed
88 2011-03-06T12:35:47 *** kasun
89 2011-03-06T12:37:53 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: MattMaker: if we want to merge realtime editor we have to solve the licensing issues first
90 2011-03-06T12:58:00 <dreimark> mobwrite has only 3 committed changes las year
91 2011-03-06T13:13:01 <dreimark> http://www.amyeditor.com/
92 2011-03-06T13:13:07 <dreimark> has wtfl
93 2011-03-06T13:13:22 <dreimark> wtfpl
94 2011-03-06T13:18:25 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://www.amyeditor.com/api/embed/test_python.html
95 2011-03-06T13:22:22 <dreimark> http://www.ekoob.com/4-handy-web-based-source-code-editors-7097/
96 2011-03-06T13:27:29 <dreimark> strange that there is no ongoing work
97 2011-03-06T13:29:22 <ThomasWaldmann> mobwrite author has told that recent work has been mostly in the library mobwrite is based on
98 2011-03-06T13:29:46 <ThomasWaldmann> but that focus will change soon back to mobwrite
99 2011-03-06T13:39:52 <dreimark> bbl
100 2011-03-06T13:46:09 *** m4k3r
101 2011-03-06T13:53:24 *** Pranav_rcmas
102 2011-03-06T14:01:20 *** greg_f
103 2011-03-06T14:17:50 *** kasun
104 2011-03-06T14:18:17 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: amy seems to be js/php based
105 2011-03-06T14:33:30 *** Marchael
106 2011-03-06T14:34:06 *** maker
107 2011-03-06T14:34:38 *** m4k3r
108 2011-03-06T14:50:11 *** Marchael
109 2011-03-06T14:53:43 *** RogerHaase
110 2011-03-06T15:07:20 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I am thinking that removing activating the virtual environment from moin.bat last week was a mistake -- instead of dumbing down activate.bat, we should have made ./moin smarter.
111 2011-03-06T15:08:31 <RogerHaase> A better way may be to rename moin to moin.py, create a *nix script called moin to activate the env, run moin, deactivate env, and make a moin.bat that does the same.
112 2011-03-06T15:17:39 <ThomasWaldmann> as i said, running moin is not the only thing you need an active env for
113 2011-03-06T15:18:27 <ThomasWaldmann> so one rather activates the env once and then just stays in it than always activating/deactivating
114 2011-03-06T15:19:18 <ThomasWaldmann> running tests, building docs, working on translations, using the command line ...
115 2011-03-06T15:21:16 <RogerHaase> Wouldn't all of those things also work with moin.bat (it just activates/deactivates more frequently)?
116 2011-03-06T15:22:11 <ThomasWaldmann> no, tests are run by py.test, docs by sphinx, i18n by setup.py/babel
117 2011-03-06T15:22:42 <ThomasWaldmann> also, the virtualenv approach is just what we currently use for development
118 2011-03-06T15:22:47 <RogerHaase> What about the non-python programmer who just wants to run a personal wiki? Why explain that you have to activate the env before running moin - just do it for him.
119 2011-03-06T15:22:58 <ThomasWaldmann> it should be no requirement to use virtualenv if you don't want to
120 2011-03-06T15:23:44 <ThomasWaldmann> currently there are only python programmers using moin :)
121 2011-03-06T15:24:03 <ThomasWaldmann> and later you can also just use python setup.py to install it without virtualenv
122 2011-03-06T15:24:37 <ThomasWaldmann> or debian packages or whatever
123 2011-03-06T15:25:56 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: another thing: could you look at class (moin-)(bad)interwiki, it seems to be not consistent
124 2011-03-06T15:27:48 <ThomasWaldmann> (btw, the scripts like they are right now are maybe not final anyway, setuptools has something for commandline scripts we do not really use currently, but maybe we should - after refactoring all the scripts to flask-script and getting rid of MoinMoin/script/moin.py)
125 2011-03-06T15:37:03 <RogerHaase> I think having a python file without the .py suffix is confusing. Under windows, it is a PITA just to view the moin file -- all of the editors are set up based upon the suffix and will not do the color highlighting etc.
126 2011-03-06T15:38:53 <ThomasWaldmann> under posix os, it is annoying to have to enter extensions for commandline scripts
127 2011-03-06T15:39:15 <ThomasWaldmann> (and they are not needed, first line tells the interpreter)
128 2011-03-06T15:40:42 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the setup.py commandline stuff i mentioned above creates the platform script automatically
129 2011-03-06T15:41:28 <ThomasWaldmann> so it'll be moin for posix, moin.(bat|cmd) for windows and there'll be nothing to edit there
130 2011-03-06T15:42:16 <ThomasWaldmann> i thought about doing that stuff yesterday, but then noticed not all old moin scripts are ready yet
131 2011-03-06T15:45:10 *** kasun
132 2011-03-06T15:47:25 <RogerHaase> OK, I will leave moin.bat as it is. I either don't understand where you are going with these start up scripts, or disagree.
133 2011-03-06T15:51:15 <RogerHaase> ThosmanWaldmann: will take a look at the bad-interwiki css.
134 2011-03-06T15:51:49 <ThomasWaldmann> (if you don't understand something specific, just ask)
135 2011-03-06T15:53:48 *** maker
136 2011-03-06T15:55:29 *** m4k3r
137 2011-03-06T16:30:24 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: btw, do you think it is good to merge all css files (maybe except msie.css) into 1 file?
138 2011-03-06T16:31:48 * ThomasWaldmann tries to get rid of old search code
139 2011-03-06T16:32:11 <RogerHaase> Yes, that was my original intent, but I thought there were objections, so I left it for later. (I understand it is later...)
140 2011-03-06T16:32:55 *** Marchael
141 2011-03-06T16:33:17 <RogerHaase> I was intending to work a bit on RTL languages and cssjanus next. But I do not have much time.
142 2011-03-06T16:33:51 <RogerHaase> I also know very little about RTL languages.
143 2011-03-06T16:37:32 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe someone who can read that stuff should do that
144 2011-03-06T16:38:04 <ThomasWaldmann> and how has a better feeling about how it should look like
145 2011-03-06T16:38:57 <ThomasWaldmann> i sometimes tried to fix some minor errors in some rtl language translations and always get very confused when trying to edit such stuff
146 2011-03-06T16:42:21 <ThomasWaldmann> @media print { ... } (same for screen, projection) should be all what's needed, right?
147 2011-03-06T16:42:21 <moinBot> ThomasWaldmann: Error: "media" is not a valid command.
148 2011-03-06T16:43:15 <ThomasWaldmann> and maybe after that simple approach, moving stuff around so that same classes/ids are grouped together?
149 2011-03-06T16:46:19 <RogerHaase> Yes all can be combined into one file. I tried to group and label similar classes and IDs. There is more to do -- I left in diffs and month-calendar thinking those functions will eventually return.
150 2011-03-06T16:48:05 <ThomasWaldmann> diffs should work
151 2011-03-06T16:48:26 <ThomasWaldmann> (just go to history of an item)
152 2011-03-06T16:48:33 *** m4k3r
153 2011-03-06T17:33:11 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 77:ce42dfe12227 2.0/ (18 files in 10 dirs):
154 2011-03-06T17:33:11 <CIA-64> remove non-working search code, see moin/1.9 or moin/2.0-dev for reference
155 2011-03-06T17:33:11 <CIA-64> left some search-related css in place, maybe it can be useful
156 2011-03-06T17:33:11 <CIA-64> the search box itself and the js related to it is also still there
157 2011-03-06T17:33:13 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 75:26d320fc12a2 2.0/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): move search.term to storage.terms, including tests
158 2011-03-06T17:33:15 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 76:dab51965d605 2.0/MoinMoin/ (8 files in 6 dirs): import terms module from new location
159 2011-03-06T17:54:34 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 78:6f39926c7d7c 2.0/MoinMoin/translations/MoinMoin.pot: update MoinMoin.pot
160 2011-03-06T17:54:35 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 79:8a9ac24e59e5 2.0/MoinMoin/translations/ (MoinMoin.pot de/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po): update translation file headers, update german translation
161 2011-03-06T18:00:40 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 80:81eb3905d8b4 2.0/ (docs/devel/development.rst setup.py): remove parsedatetime requirement (unused)
162 2011-03-06T18:05:20 *** greg_f
163 2011-03-06T18:05:20 *** greg_f
164 2011-03-06T18:10:29 * ThomasWaldmann thinks about whether we need MoinMoin/script/migration/backend.py
165 2011-03-06T18:11:38 <ThomasWaldmann> there could be just a special option to MoinMoin/script/maint/xml.py to construct and use a fs19 backend
166 2011-03-06T18:12:45 <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: ^^
167 2011-03-06T18:51:19 *** kasunbg
168 2011-03-06T19:18:27 *** kasunbg
169 2011-03-06T19:40:12 *** m4k3r
170 2011-03-06T19:44:09 *** greg_f
171 2011-03-06T19:55:52 *** kasun
172 2011-03-06T20:24:22 <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann yes... for me at least I have been able to use the fs19 backend as a good migration path. My current preferred hack simply gives a node (uniquely named item) all of the Revisions that have ever existed for it, no matter what renames have occurred, and it also (redundantly) creates smaller histories for each of the nodes at the old names.
173 2011-03-06T20:25:10 <MattMaker> it would make sense for a script to carry out the three steps involved in the current approach to migrating fs19 to fs2.0
174 2011-03-06T20:25:52 <MattMaker> regarding virtualenv, I think the use of a virtualenv should be considered a configurable option in a similar manner to what pip currently does
175 2011-03-06T20:26:55 <MattMaker> with the options/environment variables PIP_REQUIRE_VIRTUALENV and PIP_VIRTUALENV_BASE
176 2011-03-06T20:28:38 <MattMaker> it could be helpful for wiki farms, to support this in an integrated way
177 2011-03-06T20:33:50 <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann also I think you have a good idea about the setup.py and the commandline scripts. although if I understand correctly, it seems that "entry points" are a setuptools thing, and that distribute2 doesn't support them yet, but will in some way
178 2011-03-06T20:34:43 <MattMaker> and I have learned enough now about setuptools to believe that although it is clever and it "works", setuptools is kind of an embarrassment to Python
179 2011-03-06T20:39:04 <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: with 3 steps you mean dumping xml, loading xml and ...?
180 2011-03-06T20:39:34 <MattMaker> and then forgetting about those and using the fs2.0 that was created
181 2011-03-06T20:40:15 <MattMaker> that's the third step :)
182 2011-03-06T20:40:53 <MattMaker> (currently each step requires a change to wikiconfig_local and a restart)
183 2011-03-06T20:42:24 <ThomasWaldmann> i thought about changing the xml.py script to just dump from a fs19 backend
184 2011-03-06T20:43:03 <ThomasWaldmann> i tried it with something configured in wikiconfig, but it maybe also could just take a path and do that assembling in the script
185 2011-03-06T20:43:59 *** not-xjjk
186 2011-03-06T20:49:42 <dreimark> re
187 2011-03-06T20:50:31 <dreimark> ah good, i haven't refactore the migration script - unclear what should left over
188 2011-03-06T20:51:48 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is the xml script currently not able to dumo from any backend?
189 2011-03-06T20:52:01 <dreimark> s/dumo/dump
190 2011-03-06T20:56:12 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: yes, but it needs be setup
191 2011-03-06T21:14:56 <ThomasWaldmann> duplicate users are an issue :|
192 2011-03-06T21:16:03 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: btw, the xml dump is about 10% larger than the data/ dir tar file
193 2011-03-06T21:19:59 <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/349125/
194 2011-03-06T21:20:51 <dreimark> that is not much more
195 2011-03-06T21:21:36 <dreimark> rather a constant amount more because of descriptive xml
196 2011-03-06T21:23:08 <MattMaker> it can take quite a while to generate the xml file, btw. maybe a progress display would be appropriate for maintenance scripts that do so
197 2011-03-06T21:23:58 <dreimark> is there a limit in the size of the xml file? e.g. need to fit in memory?
198 2011-03-06T21:24:31 <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann currently I don't get duplicate users (perhaps I fixed that?), but I do get the users all being named as uuids instead of sensible names
199 2011-03-06T21:26:47 <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann I have not yet used many moin maintenance scripts, but that change you linked looks useful.
200 2011-03-06T21:27:56 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: no
201 2011-03-06T21:28:41 <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: userids always have been numeric. the fs19 just changes them to another sort of uuid.
202 2011-03-06T21:29:47 <MattMaker> I mean for example in the display of History -- surely the user's chosen name should appear there, not the uuid/path
203 2011-03-06T21:29:52 <ThomasWaldmann> we could store the user item under its name, but we'ld still have to use the uuid to refer to it.
204 2011-03-06T21:30:28 <ThomasWaldmann> and userprofile changes should not appear in the end anyway
205 2011-03-06T21:31:53 <ThomasWaldmann> (there are some ideas about useritems on my braindump page btw)
206 2011-03-06T21:31:55 <MattMaker> it might be something I am doing in my current patches to fs19, I am not sure how it is supposed to be
207 2011-03-06T21:32:17 <MattMaker> ok, I will revisit the braindump page :)
208 2011-03-06T21:40:50 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 81:d7a0220aba58 2.0/MoinMoin/script/maint/xml.py: maint_xml script: add --moin19data option to setup a fs19 backend (e.g. for --save)
209 2011-03-06T21:40:53 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 82:df1fc8a424e8 2.0/MoinMoin/script/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
210 2011-03-06T21:40:53 <CIA-64> remove old script infrastructure, remove migration script (use xml dump)
211 2011-03-06T21:40:53 <CIA-64> remove stuff needed by moin's old plugin system (replaced by flask-script)
212 2011-03-06T22:03:48 *** m4k3r
213 2011-03-06T22:32:52 <MattMaker> This looks interesting: http://mbostock.github.com/d3/
214 2011-03-06T22:43:34 <dreimark> https://github.com/mbostock/d3/blob/master/LICENSE
215 2011-03-06T22:48:45 <dreimark> nice graphic methods
216 2011-03-06T22:51:16 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ^^
217 2011-03-06T22:51:16 <ThomasWaldmann> please everybody re-run quickinstall to get a correct env/bin/moin (moin.bat) script
218 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 83:8a5be4814a48 2.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
219 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> use console_script entry point - setup.py now installs a "moin" script for the platform
220 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> loading the config file now works like this:
221 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> - from given file (-c path/filename)
222 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> - from env variable MOINCFG
223 2011-03-06T22:53:08 <CIA-64> - from current directory: wikiconfig_local.py, wikiconfig.py (in that order)
224 2011-03-06T22:53:51 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ^^ that was what i meant, cia is a bit slow
225 2011-03-06T22:55:39 <ThomasWaldmann> someone working with windows right now?
226 2011-03-06T23:00:49 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: from openid.store.memstore import MemoryStore
227 2011-03-06T23:00:50 <dreimark> ImportError: No module named openid.store.memstor
228 2011-03-06T23:02:35 <ThomasWaldmann> that maybe means you have no openid python support lib installed
229 2011-03-06T23:02:51 <dreimark> found out too, downloads now
230 2011-03-06T23:03:32 <dreimark> how are extras_require stuff can be easy installed?
231 2011-03-06T23:08:57 *** xjjk
232 2011-03-06T23:12:54 <dreimark> ok, pip does not support it currently
233 2011-03-06T23:13:19 <dreimark> https://bitbucket.org/ianb/pip/src/b9b66726a3c6/pip/req.py#cl-985
234 2011-03-06T23:13:52 <dreimark> https://bitbucket.org/ianb/pip/issue/170/pip-isnt-accounting-for-setuptools
235 2011-03-06T23:15:01 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: fixme at https://bitbucket.org/ianb/pip/src/tip/pip/req.py#cl-995
236 2011-03-06T23:28:29 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, hopefully that'll get fixed soon
237 2011-03-06T23:49:59 <CIA-64> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 84:2f9b41699a7f 2.0/docs/admin/ (install.rst serve.rst): docs: update docs about moin script usage
