MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-02-22

   1 2011-02-22T00:00:15  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: depends. re-reading comments (as well as diffs) before shooting is appreciated to avoid typos. :)
   2 2011-02-22T00:00:43  <ThomasWaldmann> if all important is said in a line, use one line
   3 2011-02-22T00:01:15  <ThomasWaldmann> if you need more, use a short comment in first line, then empty line, then the longer comment
   4 2011-02-22T00:03:42  <MattMaker> thanks
   5 2011-02-22T00:28:10  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5765:cf5fd8bbed5b 1.9/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
   6 2011-02-22T00:33:54  <MattMaker> ok, it's at https://bitbucket.org/MattMaker/moin-2.0/changeset/adc90500600b ... does it tell you automatically, or do I say something in here, or do I send a pull request, or ... ?
   7 2011-02-22T00:36:52  <ThomasWaldmann> you can either tell here or send pull request
   8 2011-02-22T00:37:07  <ThomasWaldmann> now and then i also do a hg bbforks -i
   9 2011-02-22T00:37:26  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: 500 on MM
  10 2011-02-22T00:37:58  <ThomasWaldmann> looking at MattMaker/moin-2.0
  11 2011-02-22T00:37:58  <ThomasWaldmann> 1 incoming changeset found in bb+http://MattMaker/moin-2.0
  12 2011-02-22T00:38:22  <ThomasWaldmann> oops
  13 2011-02-22T00:43:00  <ThomasWaldmann> hi translation is broken
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  16 2011-02-22T00:47:17  <ThomasWaldmann> Pranav_rcmas: do you speak hindi?
  17 2011-02-22T00:48:14  <Pranav_rcmas> I'm not great at it. It's not my first language.
  18 2011-02-22T00:48:35  <Pranav_rcmas> I do know some basic stuff though :)
  19 2011-02-22T00:51:48  <ThomasWaldmann> problem is that currently our hi translation is broken and crashes moin .|
  20 2011-02-22T00:54:45  <Pranav_rcmas> Oh, I really can't help you with Hindi, though, my vocabulary sucks, and I take time to think and frame sentences :(
  21 2011-02-22T00:55:22  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, might be more some syntax error, i try to fix it
  22 2011-02-22T00:59:11  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5766:88fb5b6d4684 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/hi.MoinMoin.po: trying to fix hindi translation (syntax error in po file)
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  24 2011-02-22T01:07:10  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5767:d01747be4a29 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/hi.MoinMoin.po: revert hindi translation to 5753:09e6d2748472 (does not crash)
  25 2011-02-22T01:08:27  <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/hi < crap .(
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  27 2011-02-22T01:09:45  <cosmos_thought> back
  28 2011-02-22T01:11:46  <ThomasWaldmann> wb :)
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  48 2011-02-22T09:21:20  <dreimark> moin
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  58 2011-02-22T12:17:41  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  68 2011-02-22T14:43:42  <ThomasWaldmann>  http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/virtaal/features -> see "machine translation"
  69 2011-02-22T14:44:09  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: m4k3r: now we have 2 makers :)
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  71 2011-02-22T15:13:12  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i'm not sure about http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/97208f67798f
  72 2011-02-22T15:13:36  <eSyr> somewhere in config there is option with list of supported schemes, may be, it should be used?
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  79 2011-02-22T15:42:19  <cosmos_thought> moin
  80 2011-02-22T15:43:18  <cosmos_thought> and gn8
  81 2011-02-22T15:58:19  <dreimark> night cosmos_thought
  82 2011-02-22T15:59:51  <dreimark> eSyr: not sure about those schemas. it can happen that various plugins do have different ones.
  83 2011-02-22T16:00:38  <eSyr> hmmm.
  84 2011-02-22T16:00:51  <eSyr> dreimark: plugins means parsers?
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  88 2011-02-22T16:46:44  <dreimark> eSyr: yes parser and where all the schemas can be used
  89 2011-02-22T16:47:50  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: good idea
  90 2011-02-22T16:48:41  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: but what do you do exactly if it is not in the supported list?
  91 2011-02-22T16:49:27  <dreimark> and what if you don't want all schemas for all plugins
  92 2011-02-22T16:49:56  <dreimark> this looks like a bit that we want some parts separate configurabel for each plugin
  93 2011-02-22T16:49:56  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that is another problem
  94 2011-02-22T16:49:58  <eSyr> iirc, moin parser recognised link with unsupported scheme as local.
  95 2011-02-22T16:51:46  <eSyr> we can left text as is or generate empty link (href="#") with appropriate title, for example.
  96 2011-02-22T16:54:09  <ThomasWaldmann> if i understood the rst parser right, it uses docutils for parsing
  97 2011-02-22T16:54:23  <ThomasWaldmann> moin only does some postprocessing of the parsetree
  98 2011-02-22T16:55:28  <ThomasWaldmann> but yes, patching the link with "#" is also an idea.
  99 2011-02-22T16:55:51  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: do you want to fix it?
 100 2011-02-22T16:56:25  <eSyr> i try to do this.
 101 2011-02-22T16:57:36  <ThomasWaldmann> (we likely have to fix that in 1.8 also, btw, but I first wanted to wait for comments about the 1.9 change :)
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 112 2011-02-22T18:57:45  <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: :)
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 114 2011-02-22T18:58:34  <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: do you know anything about when tshirt+money wil be sent?
 115 2011-02-22T18:59:55  <ThomasWaldmann> no idea
 116 2011-02-22T19:00:47  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe ask some fellow students whether they got it already
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 119 2011-02-22T19:14:08  <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: even the ones close to google hq didn't get it yet
 120 2011-02-22T19:14:22  <ThomasWaldmann> (see posts on gci-discuss)
 121 2011-02-22T19:14:33  <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: strange; btw thank you.
 122 2011-02-22T19:18:07  <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: if you are bored waiting, helps us with moin2, so time goes by faster :D
 123 2011-02-22T19:21:04  <m4k3r> Look, I dont' hang out with my girlfriend from about 4 weeks, I really don't have enough time :D
 124 2011-02-22T19:21:46  <ThomasWaldmann> sounds like :)
 125 2011-02-22T19:22:07  <m4k3r> Ufortunately I have maturity this year, so I can't just leave school for some time and then study like hell.
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 127 2011-02-22T19:26:58  <ThomasWaldmann> m4k3r: aren't students required to attend school?
 128 2011-02-22T19:27:21  <m4k3r> yep.
 129 2011-02-22T19:27:39  <ThomasWaldmann> sounded different :D
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 132 2011-02-22T19:46:16  <dreimark> at reducewiki
 133 2011-02-22T19:49:41  <ThomasWaldmann> first check whether we need it :)
 134 2011-02-22T20:05:26  <dreimark> it is still usefull
 135 2011-02-22T20:20:13  <ThomasWaldmann> a) we currently have NO system / help pages
 136 2011-02-22T20:20:29  <ThomasWaldmann> b) xml serialization might be able to replace it?
 137 2011-02-22T20:22:22  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
 138 2011-02-22T20:33:39  <dreimark> hmm?
 139 2011-02-22T20:34:02  <dreimark> i often used it to remove old stuff from the data revisions
 140 2011-02-22T20:34:39  <dreimark> and now with some more big sized items i need it even more
 141 2011-02-22T20:43:47  <ThomasWaldmann> well, there is destroy now, in case you keep ISOs in the wiki
 142 2011-02-22T20:44:20  <ThomasWaldmann> and for some other applications the xml dump could only have the latest revision
 143 2011-02-22T20:44:30  <ThomasWaldmann> if you restore that, you have same effect
 144 2011-02-22T20:46:53  <dreimark> but you need to do it manually, that script does it for all items
 145 2011-02-22T20:48:01  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/342953/
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 147 2011-02-22T20:51:21  <dreimark> if you agree i push it - i am not sure currently about xml dump
 148 2011-02-22T20:51:48  <dreimark> it may be at the end because of a copy of the content what one wants (also for backup)
 149 2011-02-22T20:52:01  <dreimark> but i am not sure yet about the amount
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 151 2011-02-22T21:27:30  <ThomasWaldmann> the docstring needs improvement
 152 2011-02-22T21:28:47  <ThomasWaldmann> and i didn't understand your last 2 lines here
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 183 2011-02-22T22:07:55  <dreimark> if you want to do the same with the xml dump may  be you want to do it twice
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 186 2011-02-22T22:07:56  <dreimark> one with full revisions and one with the last
 187 2011-02-22T22:08:02  <dreimark> and i have no idea how big the xml file becomes
 188 2011-02-22T22:11:28  <ThomasWaldmann> it becomes about as big as the data you dump :D
 189 2011-02-22T22:12:06  <dreimark> i guess bigger
 190 2011-02-22T22:12:41  <dreimark> This script removes all revisions but the last one from all selected items.
 191 2011-02-22T22:12:44  <dreimark> better ?
 192 2011-02-22T22:13:14  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
 193 2011-02-22T22:26:20  <CIA-65> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 10:400c6c6fd03a 2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): script.maint.reducewiki: refactored to flask-script and renamed to reduce_revisions
 194 2011-02-22T22:26:26  <CIA-65> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 11:cee0044428ff 2.0/moin: PEP8 whitespace fix
 195 2011-02-22T22:27:04  <dreimark> no idea how i have added that tab in that line
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 199 2011-02-22T22:41:47  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 12:ce00ee7625b2 2.0/MoinMoin/converter/link.py: link converter: remove unused imports
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 201 2011-02-22T23:50:36  <MattMaker> at present, http://moinmo.in/ is loading slowly or not at all for me
 202 2011-02-22T23:51:23  <ThomasWaldmann> works ok for me
 203 2011-02-22T23:51:27  <dreimark> for me too
 204 2011-02-22T23:51:48  <dreimark> MattMaker: what does Page.execute and total tell?
 205 2011-02-22T23:52:10  <MattMaker> pardon?
 206 2011-02-22T23:52:35  <MattMaker> I cannot ping it, even
 207 2011-02-22T23:53:14  <MattMaker> DNS resolves it, but no reply for the IP
 208 2011-02-22T23:53:24  <CIA-65> MattMaker <trip@entropyreductionservices.com> default * 13:adc90500600b 2.0/MoinMoin/ (storage/backends/indexing.py util/kvstore.py):
 209 2011-02-22T23:53:24  <CIA-65> use sqla's inserted_primary_key[0] rather than deprecated last_inserted_ids()[0]
 210 2011-02-22T23:53:24  <CIA-65> see also http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/core/connections.html#sqlalchemy.engine.base.ResultProxy.inserted_primary_key
 211 2011-02-22T23:54:09  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: traceroute?
 212 2011-02-22T23:54:37  <MattMaker> trying
 213 2011-02-22T23:55:25  <MattMaker> hmm, it got literally nothing except my router
 214 2011-02-22T23:55:38  <ThomasWaldmann> are you sure you still have internet? :D
 215 2011-02-22T23:55:54  <MattMaker> well, I am here, yes? :)
 216 2011-02-22T23:56:05  <MattMaker> checking now from a remote site
 217 2011-02-22T23:56:15  <ThomasWaldmann> I IRC thus I am. OK. :)
 218 2011-02-22T23:56:32  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: give me your up
 219 2011-02-22T23:56:35  <ThomasWaldmann> ip
 220 2011-02-22T23:58:06  <MattMaker> which one? :)
 221 2011-02-22T23:58:17  <ThomasWaldmann> where you sit
 222 2011-02-22T23:58:40  <MattMaker> 70.113.29.187 at present
 223 2011-02-22T23:59:30  <MattMaker> good grief, both my remote ISPs provide no ping command