MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-02-15

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   7 2011-02-15T00:30:02  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10443:855f1f41fc41 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/__init__.py: storage backends init: add missing import
   8 2011-02-15T00:30:04  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10445:07b4d85cac13 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): merge main
   9 2011-02-15T00:30:06  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10444:155ef30eae1f 2.0-dev/docs/admin/upgrade.rst: docs: upgrade docs, first draft (doesn't work right now)
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  11 2011-02-15T00:31:46  <cosmos_thought> moin
  12 2011-02-15T00:32:15  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: what exactly shall revert do without a revision number?
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  17 2011-02-15T01:29:54  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10446:734433e4bd4e 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py storage/backends/fs19.py): meta 'action' - use unicode consistently
  18 2011-02-15T01:41:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it has a rev_no
  19 2011-02-15T01:41:35  <dreimark> i added it - in the past it was missing
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  23 2011-02-15T01:47:57  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10447:a3298da5e624 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/__init__.py: storage: fix import, try 2
  24 2011-02-15T01:48:01  <dreimark> gn
  25 2011-02-15T02:01:01  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/a3298da5e624/MoinMoin/templates/revert.html#l3
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  40 2011-02-15T07:51:53  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: let me ask first a question why it makes sense in destroy.
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  47 2011-02-15T11:18:39  * Trip_ is disappointed that werkzeug does not implement an exception for HTTP status code "418 I'm a teapot"
  48 2011-02-15T11:22:56  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: destroy whole item, destroy single revision - both makes sense
  49 2011-02-15T12:00:55  <ThomasWaldmann> but revert-to makes only sense for a specific revision
  50 2011-02-15T12:04:46  <dreimark> ok, i have not thought about that rather on removing it the case there too
  51 2011-02-15T12:04:53  <dreimark> s/it//
  52 2011-02-15T12:05:17  <dreimark> i fix that later
  53 2011-02-15T12:17:02  <Trip_> I have worked around some issues with the fs19 backend; I have caught a first glimpse of my ported wiki content :)
  54 2011-02-15T12:25:25  <ThomasWaldmann> ah :)
  55 2011-02-15T12:27:51  <ThomasWaldmann> Trip_: btw, in case you are doing fixes in your local repo, do small steps, get them merged soon
  56 2011-02-15T12:28:07  <ThomasWaldmann> we'll have that repo reboot soon
  57 2011-02-15T12:28:40  <Trip_> I hear you on that. yes, they are small :)
  58 2011-02-15T12:29:34  <Trip_> woot, I think the import succeeded also
  59 2011-02-15T12:29:42  <Trip_> although it took a while
  60 2011-02-15T12:33:27  <Trip_> ThomasWaldmann is the fs19 supposed to bring in the user accounts too? I think those were what the uuid problem was about
  61 2011-02-15T12:37:14  <Trip_> ok, now is the time when I learn how to give you the diffs.  Mercurial has fancy ways to do this?
  62 2011-02-15T12:43:34  <TheSheep> a couple
  63 2011-02-15T12:43:40  <Trip_> or do I do it this way?  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/338845/
  64 2011-02-15T12:44:31  <TheSheep> you can run 'hg export'
  65 2011-02-15T12:50:02  <ThomasWaldmann> Trip_: the user accounts should be in the xml dump
  66 2011-02-15T12:50:26  <ThomasWaldmann> just have a look, it should be readable and even editable
  67 2011-02-15T12:50:56  <Trip_> *nod*
  68 2011-02-15T12:51:36  <ThomasWaldmann> don't wonder about the base64 stuff, that is revision data (so it works for wiki pages as well as binary attachments)
  69 2011-02-15T12:51:50  <Trip_> ohh, we will need to override the old users' preferred theme name to 'modernized'
  70 2011-02-15T12:52:36  <Trip_> and maybe catch KeyError in themes.py :)
  71 2011-02-15T12:53:19  <ThomasWaldmann> yes :)
  72 2011-02-15T12:53:52  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe the KeyError preferably
  73 2011-02-15T12:54:11  <ThomasWaldmann> because themes can also get uninstalled and we need to handle that problem any time later also
  74 2011-02-15T12:55:20  <ThomasWaldmann> and not overwrite it on migration, some org/company COULD hack their theme for moin2 before deploying it
  75 2011-02-15T12:57:31  <Trip_> that makes sense
  76 2011-02-15T13:05:27  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
  77 2011-02-15T13:23:53  <Trip_> seems like maybe backend.iteritems() happens in some places where it might not need to, at least not every time
  78 2011-02-15T13:24:29  <ThomasWaldmann> like?
  79 2011-02-15T13:28:18  <Trip_> actually, now that I think about it, I'm probably just seeing it repeatedly trying to index some items that my patch was excluding
  80 2011-02-15T13:28:27  <Trip_> still cleaning it up a bit
  81 2011-02-15T13:29:26  <ThomasWaldmann> in the end, indexing revision data/meta shall happen (or at least being scheduled) when that revision is stored
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  90 2011-02-15T17:55:39  <dreimark> https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-implementing-device-and-stream-management-webkit
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  92 2011-02-15T18:27:47  <ThomasWaldmann> in soviet russia, the web is watching you :P
  93 2011-02-15T18:29:10  <TheSheep> good one
  94 2011-02-15T18:31:04  <ThomasWaldmann> could give interesting security issues
  95 2011-02-15T18:31:55  <ThomasWaldmann> and not every cam manufacturor is sane enough to couple a LED to the cam power / cam enable line
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 114 2011-02-15T19:28:48  <CIA-65> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 10448:cf62b9db867f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/revert.html: revert template: remove pointless case for rev_no == None
 115 2011-02-15T19:32:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:  i often find "-" in controll structures of the templates
 116 2011-02-15T19:32:45  <dreimark> e.g. http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/cf62b9db867f/MoinMoin/templates/editbar.html#l7
 117 2011-02-15T19:33:05  <dreimark> what is the meaning for that?
 118 2011-02-15T19:36:13  <dreimark> But you can also strip whitespace in templates by hand. If you put an minus sign (-) to the start or end of an block (for example a for tag), a comment or variable expression you can remove the whitespaces after or before that block:
 119 2011-02-15T19:36:18  <dreimark> ok found
 120 2011-02-15T19:37:45  <dreimark> hmm, do we want to have a global history entry on each rename?
 121 2011-02-15T19:38:10  <dreimark> rename back to the older name clears all entries
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 123 2011-02-15T19:54:24  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: should we copy pytest also into 1.9 ?
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 127 2011-02-15T20:10:51  <Trip_> there should be a coherent user story for why there is history and history features
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 129 2011-02-15T20:11:24  <Trip_> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiMindWipe
 130 2011-02-15T20:11:45  <dreimark> hmm, currently i try to figure if we have syntax for multiline dicts
 131 2011-02-15T20:13:16  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339113/ ?
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 134 2011-02-15T20:42:19  <dreimark> for now i solve it in my macro by http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339121/
 135 2011-02-15T20:42:41  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: no 1.9 changes without good reason
 136 2011-02-15T20:44:04  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: rename history should automatically be given as the name change is a metadata change
 137 2011-02-15T20:54:25  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes agreed for 1.9, adding it to dictcolumns only
 138 2011-02-15T20:54:56  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: rename a to a1 and back to a
 139 2011-02-15T20:55:05  <dreimark> this removes all new history entries
 140 2011-02-15T21:17:23  <ThomasWaldmann> that stuff is not yet in the final state, there is still this uuid idea, but it is not fully implemented yet
 141 2011-02-15T21:18:21  <ThomasWaldmann> (partly due to missing feedback about its compatibility/feasability with revcontrol backends)
 142 2011-02-15T21:21:43  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: description list stuff is partly unclear and partly broken
 143 2011-02-15T21:21:57  <ThomasWaldmann> we have some failing tests there
 144 2011-02-15T21:24:11  <ThomasWaldmann> (also indexing might have still some issues, so if one fetches history from index...)
 145 2011-02-15T21:25:33  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the MoinMoin/script stuff is currently not functional in case you search for some todo.
 146 2011-02-15T21:26:01  <ThomasWaldmann> should use flask-script
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 148 2011-02-15T21:53:09  <dreimark> have to refactor currently a tool which we use for replacing xls files
 149 2011-02-15T21:53:23  <dreimark> will look afterwards on script stuff
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 152 2011-02-15T22:56:59  <CIA-65> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 545:946737f9eb1b extensions/data/plugin/macro/ (DictColumns.py _tests/test_DictColumns.py):
 153 2011-02-15T22:56:59  <CIA-65> DictColumns: new parser for multiline definition list (markup=mdl) introduced,
 154 2011-02-15T22:56:59  <CIA-65> Books:: Einstieg in Python 3
 155 2011-02-15T23:21:30  <dreimark> Until our packaging ecosystem knows how to handle properly development releases, the best practice for mature projects is to avoid publishing anything that is not a final release at PyPI.
 156 2011-02-15T23:21:41  <dreimark> from ppo
 157 2011-02-15T23:25:07  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, read that also