1 2011-02-11T00:04:35 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
2 2011-02-11T00:06:48 <dreimark> if one don't want to give credits, he needs to have an empty macro now
3 2011-02-11T00:07:08 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, and the problem is ...?
4 2011-02-11T00:07:26 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/336137/
5 2011-02-11T00:07:56 <dreimark> but i understand
6 2011-02-11T00:08:04 <dreimark> the overwriting works that way
7 2011-02-11T00:10:38 <dreimark> if you only want to overwrite a few of the macros then you have to keep the others
8 2011-02-11T00:10:56 <dreimark> you can't not overwrite only the logo macro
9 2011-02-11T00:11:15 <ThomasWaldmann> copy + modify
10 2011-02-11T00:11:21 <ThomasWaldmann> the whole file
11 2011-02-11T00:11:51 <dreimark> if it is minimized then you don't need to adapt it for the updated version
12 2011-02-11T00:12:26 <dreimark> if we have in 2.1 more macros or so
13 2011-02-11T00:13:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
14 2011-02-11T00:15:00 <dreimark> the file must be in the future manually migrated if we change the master
15 2011-02-11T00:15:58 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that's no different from a config change
16 2011-02-11T00:16:48 <dreimark> besides that you don't get working defaults if you remove something
17 2011-02-11T00:16:58 <dreimark> e.g. page_group_regex in the past
18 2011-02-11T00:18:58 <dreimark> empty macro definition should overwrite, no macro definition keep default
19 2011-02-11T00:21:08 <dreimark> gn
20 2011-02-11T00:21:39 <ThomasWaldmann> if we want that, we need to move stuff to snippetbase.html
21 2011-02-11T00:22:01 <ThomasWaldmann> inherit snippet.html from that, and use stuff from snippet
22 2011-02-11T00:22:38 <ThomasWaldmann> if you override snippet.html then, you can still inherit that also from snippetbase.html (has to be tried, but i hope so)
23 2011-02-11T00:23:28 <dreimark> ok, i think that is better.
24 2011-02-11T00:24:16 *** maker
25 2011-02-11T00:24:50 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
26 2011-02-11T00:25:07 <dreimark> i have to think on the other open questions. I have currently no example where i would need that
27 2011-02-11T00:25:16 <dreimark> thx, cu tom.
28 2011-02-11T00:31:43 * ThomasWaldmann goes killing some settings
29 2011-02-11T00:52:09 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10435:9f2a2cb350c5 2.0-dev/ (4 files in 3 dirs): replace external_scripts config setting by macro scripts in snippets.html
30 2011-02-11T01:27:20 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10436:ff025621ce8b 2.0-dev/ (4 files in 3 dirs): replace stylesheets config setting by macro stylesheets in snippets.html
31 2011-02-11T02:30:14 *** grzywacz
32 2011-02-11T04:15:07 *** Trip_
33 2011-02-11T04:16:44 *** Trip_
34 2011-02-11T04:17:02 *** MattMaker
35 2011-02-11T04:46:49 *** Trip
36 2011-02-11T04:47:15 *** Trip
37 2011-02-11T04:47:44 *** Guest4926
38 2011-02-11T04:49:35 *** MattMaker
39 2011-02-11T05:01:25 *** Trip_
40 2011-02-11T05:07:25 *** Marchael
41 2011-02-11T05:44:27 *** Trip_
42 2011-02-11T06:53:40 *** Marchael
43 2011-02-11T08:04:39 *** Marchael
44 2011-02-11T08:25:06 *** Marchael
45 2011-02-11T08:25:56 *** Marchael
46 2011-02-11T08:28:53 *** kasun
47 2011-02-11T08:34:35 <Marchael> moin
48 2011-02-11T08:42:07 <Marchael> after last commit 10436:ff025621ce8b in repo I getting TemplateSyntaxError: Encountered unknown tag 'stylesheets'. Jinja was looking for the following tags: 'endblock'. The innermost block that needs to be closed is 'block'.
49 2011-02-11T08:43:19 <Marchael> > summary: replace stylesheets config setting by macro stylesheets in snippets.html
50 2011-02-11T08:48:51 <Marchael> full traceback here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/336319/
51 2011-02-11T09:20:12 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
52 2011-02-11T09:20:14 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10437:4da507ba9a23 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/base.html: fix syntax error in base.html
53 2011-02-11T09:20:17 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: ^^
54 2011-02-11T09:35:01 <Marchael> ;)
55 2011-02-11T09:52:37 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, one should never think a change is easy enough to just commit it :|
56 2011-02-11T10:10:13 <dreimark> moin
57 2011-02-11T10:22:30 *** greg_f
58 2011-02-11T11:33:27 <Marchael> Why we can`t unify do_modify() method in MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py? For example, initialize do_modify() in base class with some additional params and calls it in descendant classes?
59 2011-02-11T11:59:34 *** Marchael
60 2011-02-11T12:12:46 *** Marchael
61 2011-02-11T13:14:50 *** Marchael
62 2011-02-11T13:50:52 *** Trip_
63 2011-02-11T14:34:42 <Trip_> any recommendations on specialized tools, environments, IDEs, log viewers, debuggers, and similar, for use when working with the MoinMoin code?
64 2011-02-11T15:12:03 <dreimark> Trip_: eclipse with pydev
65 2011-02-11T15:12:43 <dreimark> vim with python.vim from http://moinmo.in/CodingStyle
66 2011-02-11T15:12:59 <dreimark> and werkzeug debugger
67 2011-02-11T15:18:35 <dreimark> bbl
68 2011-02-11T15:32:32 <ThomasWaldmann> Trip_: matter of taste. i usually use mc and vim, and only for very large changes / refactorings ecplipse/pydev
69 2011-02-11T15:39:05 *** Marchael
70 2011-02-11T16:10:15 *** Trip_
71 2011-02-11T16:15:00 *** eSyr
72 2011-02-11T16:15:01 *** xjjk
73 2011-02-11T16:15:02 *** aa_
74 2011-02-11T16:15:03 *** ChanServ
75 2011-02-11T16:15:03 *** kasun
76 2011-02-11T16:15:06 *** ronny
77 2011-02-11T16:15:12 *** franklin_
78 2011-02-11T16:15:12 *** waldi
79 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** not-xjjk
80 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** ronny
81 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** franklin_
82 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** aa_
83 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** eSyr
84 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** waldi
85 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** ChanServ
86 2011-02-11T16:22:06 *** leguin.freenode.net
87 2011-02-11T16:25:30 *** franklin_
88 2011-02-11T16:25:31 *** waldi
89 2011-02-11T16:26:57 *** franklin_
90 2011-02-11T16:26:57 *** waldi
91 2011-02-11T17:11:16 <dreimark> and screen is also important
92 2011-02-11T17:12:20 <MattMaker> I definitely use screen, and vim
93 2011-02-11T17:12:37 <dreimark> eclipse is nice if you have a ssd and lots of mem
94 2011-02-11T17:34:31 *** izibi
95 2011-02-11T18:02:02 *** zynox
96 2011-02-11T18:03:18 <eSyr> tmux
97 2011-02-11T18:03:33 <eSyr> "ssd, lots of them"
98 2011-02-11T18:03:49 <Marchael> only vim
99 2011-02-11T18:07:39 <ThomasWaldmann> lots of SSDs are always nice. But you don't necessarily need that for eclipse. :)
100 2011-02-11T18:14:18 <dreimark> no but it starts then like a rocket
101 2011-02-11T18:14:25 <dreimark> bbl
102 2011-02-11T18:15:16 <MattMaker> I have one of the hybrid drives installed in my macbook pro -- uses special controller and 4GB of SSD to cache the 500GB drive
103 2011-02-11T18:15:40 *** Marchael
104 2011-02-11T18:15:52 <MattMaker> it's not insanely fast, but it's at least 2x
105 2011-02-11T18:20:34 <ThomasWaldmann> Yeah, maybe nice if one needs lots of storage.
106 2011-02-11T18:21:13 * ThomasWaldmann lived with 8GB mass storage for a while (Compactflash with IDE adapter) and now has 64GB. :)
107 2011-02-11T18:41:55 *** Marchael
108 2011-02-11T18:49:34 *** ronny_
109 2011-02-11T18:51:34 *** ronny
110 2011-02-11T18:51:37 *** ronny_
111 2011-02-11T18:51:37 *** ronny_
112 2011-02-11T19:24:38 *** grzywacz
113 2011-02-11T19:55:30 *** greg_f
114 2011-02-11T20:08:48 <MattMaker> I am having trouble getting the full url of the current page from inside a macro. macro.formatter.page.url(macro.request, None, None, False) doesn't seem to do the trick, it just returns "/PageName".
115 2011-02-11T20:10:11 <MattMaker> request.script_root seems to be empty
116 2011-02-11T20:17:29 *** zynox
117 2011-02-11T20:36:17 <MattMaker> Page(macro.request, macro.formatter.page.page_name).url(macro.request) -- same thing!
118 2011-02-11T20:36:48 <MattMaker> it must be in here somewhere
119 2011-02-11T20:40:50 *** Marchael
120 2011-02-11T20:43:31 <MattMaker> aha, macro.request.url_root has the root part
121 2011-02-11T20:47:32 <MattMaker> all right, '%s%s' % (macro.request.url_root, macro.formatter.page.page_name) is how it'll be for now
122 2011-02-11T21:02:34 *** not-xjjk
123 2011-02-11T21:43:37 <ThomasWaldmann> re