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   2 2011-02-03T01:08:25  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10358:7af29ce0212a 2.0-dev/docs/devel/development.rst: add some more highlevel docs for new developers
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  22 2011-02-03T08:00:14  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  26 2011-02-03T08:49:25  <dreimark> moin
  27 2011-02-03T08:49:40  <Marchael> I see what templates/register.html contains {{ forms.render_textcha(gen, form) }} but this is not shown on the register page
  28 2011-02-03T08:52:35  <Marchael> is this not implemented yet?
  29 2011-02-03T08:53:55  <dreimark> Marchael: you have to enable in wikiconfig_local
  30 2011-02-03T08:54:06  <dreimark> see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnSpam about the syntax
  31 2011-02-03T08:54:39  <dreimark> on default it is not, because each community have to use their own q/a
  32 2011-02-03T08:54:53  <dreimark> to get the best results
  33 2011-02-03T08:55:15  <Marchael> ok, thx
  34 2011-02-03T08:57:10  <dreimark> Marchael: read wikiconfig.py until the end, there is explained how to do a wikiconfig_local.py
  35 2011-02-03T08:57:27  <dreimark> this is just for not having commits about wikiconfig
  36 2011-02-03T09:01:24  <dreimark> Marchael: if you have a clone of the moin-2 repo please pull often
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  40 2011-02-03T09:49:27  <TripleEntendre> I was going to inquire about the availability of hosting at WikiWikiWeb.de for my nonprofit organization, but from reading (via Google Translate) http://www.wikiwikiweb.de/FreeWiki I see that we are too small/specific to qualify. "restricted to a particular institution in a particular locality".
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  46 2011-02-03T11:58:36  <Marchael> How may times must be exceed before moin load new changes from wikiconfig.py?
  47 2011-02-03T11:59:10  <Marchael> Or all just need, it`s restart ./moin
  48 2011-02-03T11:59:12  <Marchael> ?
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  50 2011-02-03T12:18:15  <TheSheep> Marchael: you need to restart it
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  52 2011-02-03T12:42:23  <dreimark> TheSheep: the autoloader from moin-2 should catch the change
  53 2011-02-03T12:42:47  <dreimark> Marchael: which wikiconfig do you have changed and why don't you use a wikiconfig_local.py ?
  54 2011-02-03T12:44:09  <Marchael> dreimark: I change sitename in wikiconfig.py
  55 2011-02-03T12:44:31  <dreimark> Marchael: if you do hg diff, this will also show up
  56 2011-02-03T12:44:49  <dreimark> and you can change the sitename also in wikiconfig_local
  57 2011-02-03T12:46:09  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  58 2011-02-03T12:50:01  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: TheSheep: moin2 (when started by just ./moin) is started with a reloader, so it detects changes of at least SOME files.
  59 2011-02-03T12:50:51  <ThomasWaldmann> you see it in the log output if it detected your change, it'll automatically restart the app then. if you don't see log entries, you'll have to manually do it.
  60 2011-02-03T12:51:16  <ThomasWaldmann> one maybe could give all usual files somehow, if someone wants to make a patch for that, feel free. :)
  61 2011-02-03T13:05:20  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: big thx for updating delev docs, it very usefull for me.
  62 2011-02-03T13:06:25  <ThomasWaldmann> thought so (in general for SOC students or other contributors)
  63 2011-02-03T13:06:34  <ThomasWaldmann> need to do much more, though...
  64 2011-02-03T13:31:03  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, is everybody seeing that moin2 always requests all static files and gets 304 response? even on 2nd request for same stuff short afterwards?
  65 2011-02-03T13:35:45  <ThomasWaldmann> i think that should not happen, because max-age as well expires is still in the future, so the browser should not do any request at all, right?
  66 2011-02-03T13:36:10  <ThomasWaldmann> as well as expires-header*
  67 2011-02-03T14:10:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, wtf? http 1.0?
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  69 2011-02-03T14:20:29  <dreimark> seen something like that in the past for something which definitly should have 200. we had some discussions earlier
  70 2011-02-03T14:27:12  <ThomasWaldmann> 200 is first request. then it is in browser cache until it expires. then browser requests it again and gets 304 if not modified.
  71 2011-02-03T14:27:38  <ThomasWaldmann> what I am missing is that the browser does NOT request it until it expires.
  72 2011-02-03T14:27:45  <ThomasWaldmann> works for 1.9.3 btw
  73 2011-02-03T14:45:24  <ThomasWaldmann> http://pastebin.com/5JBxc0xX < http headers, also brought this up on #pocoo
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  79 2011-02-03T17:33:01  <Marchael> Is MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py response for rendering MoinMoin/templates/* ?
  80 2011-02-03T17:38:25  <dreimark> Marchael: yes, look for render_template calls
  81 2011-02-03T17:38:48  <Marchael> ok, thx, I`m on right way
  82 2011-02-03T18:07:55  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I think you don't need last-modified if you have etag
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  84 2011-02-03T18:29:28  <dreimark> bbl
  85 2011-02-03T18:51:51  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  86 2011-02-03T18:52:24  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: the problem happens before the etag gets relevant
  87 2011-02-03T18:52:55  <ThomasWaldmann> browser needs etag if it decides to do a (conditional) request
  88 2011-02-03T18:53:18  <ThomasWaldmann> but it shouldn't do that before the resource cache is stale/expired
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