1 2010-12-17T00:01:09 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: have to go.
2 2010-12-17T00:01:16 <m4k3r> What should I do?
3 2010-12-17T00:01:30 <ThomasWaldmann> i had a quick look at abort
4 2010-12-17T00:02:04 <ThomasWaldmann> it raises a proxyexception when you give a non-int
5 2010-12-17T00:03:58 <m4k3r> Yep. And simply the fact handle_login calls a [..]exceptions.Aborter instead of something like show_page(redirect()) is simply wrong.
6 2010-12-17T00:04:25 <ThomasWaldmann> eh?
7 2010-12-17T00:04:30 <m4k3r> But I have no idea about how to display a page from there, using flask and moinmoin.
8 2010-12-17T00:04:50 <ThomasWaldmann> if you want to redirect, it just does a redirect, everything else is next request
9 2010-12-17T00:06:20 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: seems like it doesn't. Or am I missing something in my code?
10 2010-12-17T00:07:17 <m4k3r> Unfortunately the documentation don't cover well these aspects, so may I missed something reading the code.
11 2010-12-17T00:07:26 <ThomasWaldmann> redirect_url = request.redirectURL(...) what's that?
12 2010-12-17T00:07:47 <ThomasWaldmann> request is wsgi request?
13 2010-12-17T00:08:06 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, be careful, moin 1.9 request is very different from moin2 request
14 2010-12-17T00:09:30 <m4k3r> I gave just a quick look to moinmoin1.9; I already answered your question.
15 2010-12-17T00:10:08 <m4k3r> http://openidenabled.com/files/python-openid/docs/1.2.0/openid.consumer.consumer.AuthRequest-class.html#redirectURL
16 2010-12-17T00:10:44 <ThomasWaldmann> uuh, yet another request
17 2010-12-17T00:10:53 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe name it somehow else
18 2010-12-17T00:11:09 <m4k3r> Ok.
19 2010-12-17T00:11:50 <m4k3r> But what can I do to redirect to that page?
20 2010-12-17T00:12:31 <ThomasWaldmann> well, maybe do an abort(500) to see whether it executes that code
21 2010-12-17T00:12:53 <ThomasWaldmann> if it does, it also should work with redirect(target)
22 2010-12-17T00:13:06 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe log target, to see what it wants to redirect to
23 2010-12-17T00:13:24 <ThomasWaldmann> or use a debugger to see why it is not working, if nothing else helps
24 2010-12-17T00:13:47 <m4k3r> I don't understand. I should return a '500' int instead of my url?
25 2010-12-17T00:13:56 <ThomasWaldmann> most cases I've seen when googling, is that they return redirect(target)
26 2010-12-17T00:14:12 <ThomasWaldmann> but that is usally from a view function, not from deep in some code
27 2010-12-17T00:14:38 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: the problem here is from the specific moinmoin authentication method, not a simple flask example.
28 2010-12-17T00:14:52 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: why shall student specify the page_groups? i have given them in the task.
29 2010-12-17T00:15:34 <ThomasWaldmann> sure, that's what I mean with deep in some code :)
30 2010-12-17T00:18:45 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: is it possible for me to contact the writer of that code?
31 2010-12-17T00:18:58 <ThomasWaldmann> of which exactly?
32 2010-12-17T00:19:33 <m4k3r> Also, it seems simply copied from moinmoin1.9, so it's also quite old to have been forgot.
33 2010-12-17T00:19:47 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: of moinmoin.auth.__init__.handle_login.
34 2010-12-17T00:20:20 <ThomasWaldmann> that was initially written by johannes berg (including the openid stuff in 1.9)
35 2010-12-17T00:21:27 <m4k3r> And you said that the authentication methods are handled in a completely different way, right?
36 2010-12-17T00:21:29 <ThomasWaldmann> but as I already told, I did not fully port the multistage stuff to moin2, because I don't use openid and did not port openid auth to moin2.
37 2010-12-17T00:22:10 <ThomasWaldmann> no, code is similar minus openid/multistage.
38 2010-12-17T00:23:07 *** TheSheep
39 2010-12-17T00:23:07 *** TheSheep
40 2010-12-17T00:23:08 <m4k3r> Which is the aspects I was interested in, gh.
41 2010-12-17T00:27:10 <m4k3r> I don't know how to proceed from there, and reviewing that stuff isn't my task. So I'm going to submit my actual work and these chat logs, hope they will be useful later.
42 2010-12-17T00:30:30 <ThomasWaldmann> i told you some options about how to debug why it doesn't work
43 2010-12-17T00:30:47 <m4k3r> Which?
44 2010-12-17T00:31:27 <m4k3r> Use a debugger? I already know where the code goes, and which are the values of the variables I'm interested in.
45 2010-12-17T00:31:37 <ThomasWaldmann> (00:12) < ThomasWal> well, maybe do an abort(500) to see whether it executes that code
46 2010-12-17T00:31:41 <ThomasWaldmann> (00:12) < ThomasWal> if it does, it also should work with redirect(target)
47 2010-12-17T00:31:43 <ThomasWaldmann> (00:13) < ThomasWal> maybe log target, to see what it wants to redirect to
48 2010-12-17T00:31:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (00:13) < ThomasWal> or use a debugger to see why it is not working, if nothing else helps
49 2010-12-17T00:32:00 <m4k3r> <m4k3r> I don't understand. I should return a '500' int instead of my url?
50 2010-12-17T00:32:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
51 2010-12-17T00:32:49 <ThomasWaldmann> it won't redirect then of course, but if it doesn't blow up with 500, you'll know that it does not execute the code
52 2010-12-17T00:33:33 <ThomasWaldmann> a logging line might do the same job, see next suggestion
53 2010-12-17T00:33:38 <ThomasWaldmann> + tell url
54 2010-12-17T00:33:56 *** jbills
55 2010-12-17T00:35:40 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: I know that code is executed becouse I've putted many prints in there before.
56 2010-12-17T00:36:05 <m4k3r> And: File "/home/maker/dev/moinmoin/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py", line 384, in handle_login
57 2010-12-17T00:36:05 <m4k3r> url = url.replace('%return_form', url_quote_plus(nextstage))
58 2010-12-17T00:36:05 <m4k3r> AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'replace'
59 2010-12-17T00:36:52 <m4k3r> ^ this is becouse of giving a int('500') to redirect.
60 2010-12-17T00:37:44 <ThomasWaldmann> i said abort(500), not redirect(500)
61 2010-12-17T00:41:32 *** m4k3r
62 2010-12-17T00:42:18 *** m4k3r
63 2010-12-17T00:43:18 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: I'm still getting «File "/home/maker/dev/moinmoin/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/exceptions.py", line 450, in __call__ raise _ProxyException(code) _ProxyException: <unprintable _ProxyException object>»
64 2010-12-17T00:44:40 <ThomasWaldmann> full traceback > pastebin
65 2010-12-17T00:47:00 <m4k3r> http://bpaste.net/show/12345/
66 2010-12-17T00:48:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hah 12345
67 2010-12-17T00:49:01 <m4k3r> Sorry, without the redirect I get an Internal Server Error, as expected.
68 2010-12-17T00:49:13 * m4k3r has to sleep =_=
69 2010-12-17T00:50:18 <m4k3r> http://bpaste.net/show/12346/
70 2010-12-17T00:50:24 <m4k3r> Here's the traceback.
71 2010-12-17T00:52:54 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, it might be because it happens in preprocess_request, not in dispatch_request
72 2010-12-17T00:53:58 <ThomasWaldmann> dispatch_request catches HTTPException internally
73 2010-12-17T00:55:56 <m4k3r> SHould Icareabouttaht?
74 2010-12-17T00:56:28 <m4k3r> *Should I care about
75 2010-12-17T00:56:30 <ThomasWaldmann> that's why abort() doesn't work
76 2010-12-17T00:56:40 <m4k3r> Oh, cool.
77 2010-12-17T00:57:00 <ThomasWaldmann> /join #pocoo
78 2010-12-17T00:57:13 <m4k3r> /join #bed
79 2010-12-17T00:57:19 <m4k3r> gn :)
80 2010-12-17T00:58:33 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
81 2010-12-17T00:58:36 <ThomasWaldmann> gn
82 2010-12-17T01:04:10 *** m4k3r
83 2010-12-17T01:08:07 *** grzywacz
84 2010-12-17T01:29:46 <CIA-62> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10132:3cba8e72dbd5 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/ (common.css screen.css): box-shadow: add browser specific attrs for browsers not supporting this css3
85 2010-12-17T01:29:48 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ^^
86 2010-12-17T01:30:08 <ThomasWaldmann> (that is why that border stuff did not work on ff3.6)
87 2010-12-17T03:41:44 *** eSyr
88 2010-12-17T03:54:29 *** eSyr
89 2010-12-17T05:19:05 *** kursor
90 2010-12-17T05:19:30 *** kursor
91 2010-12-17T05:19:50 *** kursor_
92 2010-12-17T05:23:40 *** kursor__
93 2010-12-17T05:23:58 *** kursor
94 2010-12-17T05:23:58 *** kursor__
95 2010-12-17T05:24:24 *** kursor_
96 2010-12-17T07:17:31 *** kursor
97 2010-12-17T07:24:32 *** CIA-62
98 2010-12-17T07:36:46 *** raignarok
99 2010-12-17T07:48:16 *** m4k3r
100 2010-12-17T07:49:17 <m4k3r> ThomasWaldmann: last night you suggested me to join #poocoo. But why?
101 2010-12-17T07:52:48 *** CIA-56
102 2010-12-17T08:03:00 *** m4k3r
103 2010-12-17T08:09:29 *** raignarok
104 2010-12-17T08:18:51 <dreimark> moin
105 2010-12-17T08:20:07 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i found not a amount of what to translate
106 2010-12-17T08:28:58 *** maker900
107 2010-12-17T08:29:08 <maker900> re.
108 2010-12-17T08:34:17 *** franklin
109 2010-12-17T08:34:21 *** franklin
110 2010-12-17T08:44:36 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the amount varies by language. and that doesn't necessarily improve by requesting the groups.
111 2010-12-17T08:45:12 <ThomasWaldmann> maker900: because i discussed the redirect issue there
112 2010-12-17T08:46:48 <ThomasWaldmann> (one can return the response object (result of redirect(url)), but raising an exception with abort() is not supported)
113 2010-12-17T08:48:09 <maker900> Uhm. But we neither need to return the redirect, becouse there's a loop which must continue.
114 2010-12-17T08:51:45 <ThomasWaldmann> it must?
115 2010-12-17T08:53:14 <maker900> Yep. After the redirect, another login handler is called. This is the way moinmoin expects you login using redirects.
116 2010-12-17T08:54:08 <maker900> If you break the loop with a return, you are going to skip the next call to the loginhandler.
117 2010-12-17T08:54:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i am speaking of the return value of before() btw
118 2010-12-17T08:55:12 *** maker900
119 2010-12-17T08:55:34 *** maker900
120 2010-12-17T08:55:46 <maker900> Re.
121 2010-12-17T08:55:54 <ThomasWaldmann> i am speaking of the return value of before() btw
122 2010-12-17T08:56:11 <maker900> Mh?
123 2010-12-17T08:56:23 <ThomasWaldmann> look in the code
124 2010-12-17T08:56:30 <maker900> K.
125 2010-12-17T09:03:41 *** maker900
126 2010-12-17T09:04:07 *** maker900
127 2010-12-17T09:05:01 <maker900> Ok, I should look at?
128 2010-12-17T09:06:38 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i comment on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037970175
129 2010-12-17T09:09:37 *** maker900
130 2010-12-17T09:09:53 *** maker900
131 2010-12-17T09:10:34 <maker900> Re. My connection really sucks >.<
132 2010-12-17T09:13:36 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: as long as we don't have a markup converter to remove attachment: we need to support that. so the question rather is whether it works correctly.
133 2010-12-17T09:13:45 *** maker900
134 2010-12-17T09:14:41 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ok, then i am fine with the result of the task
135 2010-12-17T09:16:07 <dreimark> hmm, after christmas we may be can collect ideas for the next gsoc
136 2010-12-17T09:16:35 <dreimark> or better after berlin
137 2010-12-17T09:24:37 <dreimark> bbl
138 2010-12-17T09:29:58 *** maker900
139 2010-12-17T10:00:25 <dreimark> re
140 2010-12-17T10:05:06 *** greg_f
141 2010-12-17T10:08:29 *** maker900
142 2010-12-17T10:08:55 *** maker900
143 2010-12-17T10:20:06 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: as we want to release near end of year, soc might be primarily about getting it release-ready
144 2010-12-17T10:20:54 * ThomasWaldmann added some more comments to the creole docs task
145 2010-12-17T10:30:08 <maker900> ThomasWaldmann: where should I look at?
146 2010-12-17T10:31:07 <maker900> I didn't see any answer.
147 2010-12-17T10:31:16 *** rfw
148 2010-12-17T10:34:48 <ThomasWaldmann> maker900: you didn't find the before() function?
149 2010-12-17T10:39:04 <maker900> No. I'm looking at moinmoin.auth.__init__. Right now I can look only from the source on my bitbucket repo.
150 2010-12-17T10:41:31 <ThomasWaldmann> if you are searching for something, you need the right tools and a local checkout.
151 2010-12-17T10:41:44 <ThomasWaldmann> just for this time: before is in MoinMoin/__init__.py
152 2010-12-17T10:47:47 <maker900> Yeah. It calls setup_user.
153 2010-12-17T10:52:26 <maker900> What'is interesting in that function?
154 2010-12-17T10:53:22 <ThomasWaldmann> if you return redirect(url) there, it might work.
155 2010-12-17T10:56:17 <maker900> I have no idea about how to retrive the url from the login form there.
156 2010-12-17T11:03:58 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if you can do it in the way it was intended (abort()-like), you could just catch that exception there
157 2010-12-17T11:08:43 <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
158 2010-12-17T11:13:17 *** maker900
159 2010-12-17T11:20:33 *** maker900
160 2010-12-17T12:05:00 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037966331 i think this is done with the latest changeset there:
161 2010-12-17T12:05:21 <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/pavel_vinogradov/gci10-moin-2.0-dev/changeset/eafcbf5cc205
162 2010-12-17T12:06:34 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, the review, was this done?
163 2010-12-17T12:38:36 * dreimark looks at tasks
164 2010-12-17T13:09:31 *** Samm
165 2010-12-17T13:23:30 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: xorAxAx: http://www.pythonsecurity.org/wiki/hashing/ see "multiple rounds" - what's your opinion on this?
166 2010-12-17T13:25:55 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, our salt is a random string of 32 chars
167 2010-12-17T13:26:01 <ThomasWaldmann> (for sha256)
168 2010-12-17T13:30:13 <waldi> nothing
169 2010-12-17T13:31:01 <ThomasWaldmann> does that mean "no opinion"?
170 2010-12-17T13:31:19 <waldi> 1. to do it correct you need to apply the salt on every round, hmac specifies why
171 2010-12-17T13:32:00 <waldi> 2. we have to do it ourself, so we need to waste cpu cycles, not the attacker
172 2010-12-17T13:32:37 <ThomasWaldmann> ad 2.: we only need to compute it at login, so rather rarely
173 2010-12-17T13:33:18 <ThomasWaldmann> and I am thinking whether this is maybe pointless anyway - doesn't salting effectively countermeasure usage of e.g. rainbox tables?
174 2010-12-17T13:33:23 <ThomasWaldmann> bow*
175 2010-12-17T13:33:36 <waldi> yes
176 2010-12-17T13:34:11 <waldi> and rainbow tables will still work with many iterations
177 2010-12-17T13:34:45 <waldi> they need more time to generate, but the usability is the same
178 2010-12-17T13:34:45 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but they take even longer to compute then :) and your need n tables for n different round counts
179 2010-12-17T13:35:24 <waldi> most likely the round count would be rather fixed. so it is only m, with m <<< n
180 2010-12-17T13:36:09 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so do we agree that we do not need to follow this "1000 rounds advisory"?
181 2010-12-17T13:37:01 <ThomasWaldmann> (current best method after pavel's patch will be salted-sha256)
182 2010-12-17T13:38:44 <ThomasWaldmann> pvinogradov: ^^ we are doing the review together :D
183 2010-12-17T13:42:05 *** maker900
184 2010-12-17T13:56:49 <pvinogradov> ThomasWaldmann: Hi. I'm glad to see new comments and suggestion about my code.
185 2010-12-17T14:22:05 <pvinogradov> where i can read about existing guidelines for code security review in moin?
186 2010-12-17T14:35:07 *** m4k3r
187 2010-12-17T14:39:38 *** skylamer`
188 2010-12-17T14:40:10 <jbills> dreimark: The title does not show?
189 2010-12-17T14:44:40 <ThomasWaldmann> pvinogradov: there is a link in your task description
190 2010-12-17T14:44:52 <ThomasWaldmann> but feel free to google for other stuff
191 2010-12-17T15:03:47 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10133:f3fb8a488dac 2.0-dev/docs/user/ (creolewiki.rst markups.rst mediawiki.rst): add sphinx/rst docs for creole wiki and mediawiki markup (thanks to Sam T. and Peter Hoffmann, GCI 2010)
192 2010-12-17T15:13:45 <jbills> dreimark: Sorry my js was in a different copy of moinmoin2
193 2010-12-17T16:08:59 <dreimark> jbills: i have no title, only a [+] last time I tried it
194 2010-12-17T16:09:10 <jbills> dreimark: Sorry my js was in a different copy of moinmoin2
195 2010-12-17T16:09:37 <jbills> I will make a new patch from the latest moinmoin
196 2010-12-17T16:09:54 <dreimark> :)
197 2010-12-17T16:10:48 <jbills> tortoisehg takes forever to clone
198 2010-12-17T16:12:06 <ThomasWaldmann> you should only need to clone once (from our repo), next clone you need can be done locally then
199 2010-12-17T16:16:54 <dreimark> jbills: if you want to update your already existing clone
200 2010-12-17T16:17:11 <dreimark> you can execute hg pull -u
201 2010-12-17T16:17:15 <jbills> no I have used the zips from the mirror
202 2010-12-17T16:17:21 <dreimark> in the directory
203 2010-12-17T16:18:21 <dreimark> jbills: you can also try to clone from https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0-dev
204 2010-12-17T16:18:43 <jbills> I know
205 2010-12-17T16:26:30 *** kursor
206 2010-12-17T16:27:00 *** kursor
207 2010-12-17T16:36:03 <dreimark> bbl
208 2010-12-17T16:48:39 *** Samm
209 2010-12-17T16:50:00 *** raignarok
210 2010-12-17T17:15:57 *** kursor
211 2010-12-17T17:39:58 *** eSyr
212 2010-12-17T17:39:59 *** aa_
213 2010-12-17T17:39:59 *** waldi
214 2010-12-17T17:41:49 *** eSyr
215 2010-12-17T17:41:49 *** aa_
216 2010-12-17T17:41:49 *** waldi
217 2010-12-17T18:13:30 *** fucheeno
218 2010-12-17T18:18:05 *** fucheeno
219 2010-12-17T18:18:05 *** fucheeno_
220 2010-12-17T18:18:05 *** fucheeno_
221 2010-12-17T18:25:29 *** pvinogradov
222 2010-12-17T18:36:34 *** raignarok
223 2010-12-17T18:46:30 *** fucheeno
224 2010-12-17T18:47:54 *** grzywacz
225 2010-12-17T18:47:54 *** grzywacz
226 2010-12-17T18:48:16 *** fucheeno_
227 2010-12-17T18:48:17 *** fucheeno_
228 2010-12-17T19:18:29 *** fucheeno_
229 2010-12-17T19:18:29 *** fucheeno
230 2010-12-17T19:18:29 *** fucheeno_
231 2010-12-17T19:46:21 *** fucheeno
232 2010-12-17T19:50:12 *** greg_f
233 2010-12-17T19:52:15 *** raignarok
234 2010-12-17T20:19:13 *** jdwcornell
235 2010-12-17T20:24:02 *** jdwcornell
236 2010-12-17T20:40:33 *** raignarok
237 2010-12-17T21:13:09 *** rfw
238 2010-12-17T21:15:35 *** skylamer`
239 2010-12-17T21:22:22 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you rebuild the sphinx docu please
240 2010-12-17T21:37:50 *** NikitaUtiu
241 2010-12-17T21:46:20 <NikitaUtiu> hello, all!
242 2010-12-17T21:48:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hi NikitaUtiu
243 2010-12-17T21:48:45 <NikitaUtiu> i have looked over the code several times, but i'm not sure i can complete it
244 2010-12-17T21:51:16 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/redesign%20theme%20footer comments please
245 2010-12-17T21:51:32 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: give a url what your are referring to
246 2010-12-17T21:52:02 <ThomasWaldmann> and ask more specific questions, we are here to help you :)
247 2010-12-17T21:52:47 *** raignarok
248 2010-12-17T21:53:01 <NikitaUtiu> i am little confused by the code of the converter, the one that extracts all the outgoing links
249 2010-12-17T21:53:18 <NikitaUtiu> i don't know exactly how the function is called
250 2010-12-17T21:54:30 <ThomasWaldmann> that's normal :D
251 2010-12-17T21:55:39 <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/f3fb8a488dac/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py#l1074 see there
252 2010-12-17T21:56:08 <ThomasWaldmann> and 1081/1082
253 2010-12-17T22:03:10 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: clearer now?
254 2010-12-17T22:03:59 <NikitaUtiu> i think i'm getting a little hang of it
255 2010-12-17T22:04:49 <ThomasWaldmann> it operates on a "moin-dom" tree in memory, the input wiki markup was already converted to that tree representation
256 2010-12-17T22:05:49 <NikitaUtiu> oh, i thought it is given markup
257 2010-12-17T22:05:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (that makes this task a lot easier, just imagine you had to modify n different parsers to do that)
258 2010-12-17T22:07:10 <ThomasWaldmann> see 1079 - that converts input markup to the tree (doc is a tree)
259 2010-12-17T22:14:03 <ThomasWaldmann> is it clear what wiki.local means?
260 2010-12-17T22:14:45 <NikitaUtiu> i have to leave now, but i'll be more free this weekend
261 2010-12-17T22:14:48 <NikitaUtiu> bye
262 2010-12-17T22:14:53 <ThomasWaldmann> cu
263 2010-12-17T22:17:10 *** Roboraider
264 2010-12-17T22:18:28 <Roboraider> what program should I use for debugging pytest?
265 2010-12-17T22:19:21 *** NikitaUtiu
266 2010-12-17T22:20:56 <ThomasWaldmann> what's the problem?
267 2010-12-17T22:22:51 <Roboraider> I'm using pytest to look at the unittests and understand where they fail. I'm currently trying to do this without a debugger.
268 2010-12-17T22:22:54 <Roboraider> Is there a way to start a debugger to set a break point and look at the values
269 2010-12-17T22:23:34 <ThomasWaldmann> if a unit test fails and you have no idea why, it is maybe a bad test
270 2010-12-17T22:23:50 <ThomasWaldmann> it should at least give some information
271 2010-12-17T22:24:43 <Roboraider> It gives information, but I'm trying to do another find a failing test, determine problem, fix it and a debugger would really help
272 2010-12-17T22:25:13 <ThomasWaldmann> eclipse/pydev has a debugger
273 2010-12-17T22:25:34 <jbills> is the background supposed to be #F3F7FD
274 2010-12-17T22:26:08 <ThomasWaldmann> jbills: that very light bluecyan?
275 2010-12-17T22:27:00 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that is intended. we'll test if for a while, maybe it needs some minor adjustment.
276 2010-12-17T22:30:33 <jbills> its th same color as the toc
277 2010-12-17T22:30:59 <Roboraider> I have an editor eric running. Should I switch to eclipse?
278 2010-12-17T22:32:35 *** raignarok
279 2010-12-17T22:34:06 <ThomasWaldmann> eric has also a debugger, didn't use that recently, though
280 2010-12-17T22:34:59 *** kursor
281 2010-12-17T22:36:07 <Roboraider> How would I run pytest in an IDE?
282 2010-12-17T22:36:41 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess i would use google :)
283 2010-12-17T22:37:13 <Roboraider> How would I run it in eclipse?
284 2010-12-17T22:37:50 <ThomasWaldmann> debug ...
285 2010-12-17T22:38:29 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you need some python entry point, use google :)
286 2010-12-17T22:45:51 <Roboraider> I see that pytest has a --pdb option. Can I use that for setting break points?
287 2010-12-17T22:46:05 <Roboraider> If so, how would I set break points?
288 2010-12-17T22:47:45 <ThomasWaldmann> if nothing else helps, try the docs :D
289 2010-12-17T22:48:07 <Roboraider> Which docs?
290 2010-12-17T22:49:02 <ThomasWaldmann> py.test docs?
291 2010-12-17T23:03:08 *** raignarok
292 2010-12-17T23:16:47 *** Roboraider
293 2010-12-17T23:25:43 <ThomasWaldmann> any comments on the easytodo tasks that are pending for upload?
294 2010-12-17T23:42:13 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: this are the translation tasks?
295 2010-12-17T23:42:35 <dreimark> we should define a minimum amount
296 2010-12-17T23:45:16 <dreimark> gn
297 2010-12-17T23:47:43 <ThomasWaldmann> we don't need to accept if it's not enough
