1 2010-12-04T00:00:12 <ThomasWaldmann> no, it is sys.hexversion < 0x206000
2 2010-12-04T00:00:29 <ThomasWaldmann> just comparing numbers
3 2010-12-04T00:02:20 *** nickr5
4 2010-12-04T00:04:31 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i think we have it now, lets do a practical test
5 2010-12-04T00:10:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, works for me \o/
6 2010-12-04T00:14:44 <CIA-62> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10124:fb825f4a4ff4 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py items/__init__.py): check python version, try simplejson if json does not import (thanks to Jrabbit, GCI 2010)
7 2010-12-04T00:14:49 <CIA-62> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10125:3ad4d7c19abb 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/static/applets/svg-edit/extras/update-langs.py: custom svg-edit patch: try simplejson if json does not import (thanks to Jrabbit, GCI 2010)
8 2010-12-04T00:20:42 *** jrabbit
9 2010-12-04T00:25:18 *** m4k3r
10 2010-12-04T01:06:02 <dreimark> re
11 2010-12-04T01:07:13 <moin2> this moin2, for wanted items, how can i sort the items and return it as a dict in the template
12 2010-12-04T01:11:07 <dreimark> google is your friend http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=python+sort&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
13 2010-12-04T01:12:02 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: a dict itself has no order (thus no being-sorted)
14 2010-12-04T01:12:58 <dreimark> you can sort the keys in a separate list
15 2010-12-04T01:12:59 <ThomasWaldmann> but you could get all keys of it and sort them
16 2010-12-04T01:13:04 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
17 2010-12-04T01:13:51 <moin2> yes but you wanted me to return the only 1 dict in the template, not as a list of keys and then the dictionary of values as i did
18 2010-12-04T01:13:56 <moin2> that is the problem
19 2010-12-04T01:15:07 <ThomasWaldmann> you could check whether you can sort in the template
20 2010-12-04T01:15:55 <ThomasWaldmann> no ordered dict in py 2.6 (comes in 2.7)
21 2010-12-04T01:18:24 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: can you show your current code? url?
22 2010-12-04T01:21:53 <moin2> yes, it is in editing process though: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300066/
23 2010-12-04T01:22:10 <moin2> i just took the sort out of it
24 2010-12-04T01:23:15 <dreimark> http://jinja.pocoo.org/templates/ look at dictsort
25 2010-12-04T01:23:19 <moin2> that problem is solved
26 2010-12-04T01:23:23 <moin2> found it in jinja
27 2010-12-04T01:23:26 <moin2> thanks
28 2010-12-04T01:24:29 *** Kapace_
29 2010-12-04T01:25:52 <dreimark> line 15 is strange
30 2010-12-04T01:26:25 <dreimark> you are in a loop you always create a list first and then append in the next line one item.name
31 2010-12-04T01:27:49 <moin2> if a list does not exist for that item because it has just been found to be wanted, then it creates a spot for it in dict mapping to a new list
32 2010-12-04T01:28:00 <moin2> the nobr has been fixed
33 2010-12-04T01:30:32 <CIA-62> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10126:0bd0b6db24f9 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py themes/__init__.py): add orphaned items to menu, disallow it in robots.txt
34 2010-12-04T01:30:36 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: ^^ you should to the same thing for your stuff
35 2010-12-04T01:31:02 <moin2> do what exactly?
36 2010-12-04T01:33:44 <dreimark> read the changeset
37 2010-12-04T01:37:09 <moin2> ok
38 2010-12-04T01:42:53 <dreimark> gn
39 2010-12-04T01:46:01 <moin2> now, about the bug what exactly do you see as the problem in it?
40 2010-12-04T01:50:27 <moin2> anyone there?
41 2010-12-04T01:54:36 <ThomasWaldmann> what bug?
42 2010-12-04T01:57:36 <moin2> you said there was a bug in your last message on melange
43 2010-12-04T01:58:04 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, i described what the problem is
44 2010-12-04T02:00:12 <moin2> if an item that has previously been considered wanted, turns up in the items list in flaskg, then it will be removed which is the purpose of del
45 2010-12-04T02:02:09 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, ok
46 2010-12-04T02:03:10 <moin2> so is it good enough?
47 2010-12-04T02:09:59 <ThomasWaldmann> + elif linked_item in wanteds:
48 2010-12-04T02:10:00 <ThomasWaldmann> + del wanteds[linked_item]
49 2010-12-04T02:10:04 <ThomasWaldmann> explain that
50 2010-12-04T02:10:10 <moin2> i removed it
51 2010-12-04T02:10:37 <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300066/ this is current?
52 2010-12-04T02:10:38 <moin2> it was pointless, because the second del took care of everything
53 2010-12-04T02:11:06 <moin2> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300075/, is sorry
54 2010-12-04T02:11:16 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, current_item = item.name could save some attr lookup
55 2010-12-04T02:11:40 <moin2> k, will change
56 2010-12-04T02:12:31 <ThomasWaldmann> line 16 wrong indentation
57 2010-12-04T02:13:21 <moin2> fixed, i was messing with the tabs to see if i accidentally mixed spaces, and that happened
58 2010-12-04T02:13:44 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, it wasn't pointless, it was wrong IMHO :)
59 2010-12-04T02:14:02 <ThomasWaldmann> but ok, post your current stuff, i think it is correct now
60 2010-12-04T02:14:16 <ThomasWaldmann> and do same change as in my last commit
61 2010-12-04T02:14:44 <moin2> dreimark wanted me to remove the del and try with sets, should i do that?
62 2010-12-04T02:17:55 <ThomasWaldmann> first post what we already talked about, then we discuss further stuff
63 2010-12-04T02:19:40 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, that is a clever way you implemented this now, with just once iterating over all items
64 2010-12-04T02:20:11 <ThomasWaldmann> you should maybe add a comment that describes the trick
65 2010-12-04T02:21:00 <ThomasWaldmann> like accepting that all_items is building up, accepting wrong wanteds, but fixing (deleting) them once we know they are not really wanteds
66 2010-12-04T02:26:39 <moin2> how should i comment it, with triple quotes or with #
67 2010-12-04T02:27:33 <ThomasWaldmann> """ is a docstring - like api docs
68 2010-12-04T02:27:41 <ThomasWaldmann> # is for commenting
69 2010-12-04T02:27:49 <ThomasWaldmann> this is a comment
70 2010-12-04T02:28:15 <moin2> how should i extend many lines though
71 2010-12-04T02:28:22 <ThomasWaldmann> # foo
72 2010-12-04T02:28:25 <ThomasWaldmann> # bar
73 2010-12-04T02:28:26 <moin2> i'm not used to being worried about formatting
74 2010-12-04T02:28:59 <ThomasWaldmann> 2 lines should be enough. try to be short and informative.
75 2010-12-04T02:29:28 <ThomasWaldmann> you should ever be when writing source
76 2010-12-04T02:30:02 <Kapace_> without formatting, source code quickly becomes a source mess
77 2010-12-04T02:30:15 <ThomasWaldmann> some languages might be more forgiving concerning whitespace, but if it looks like crap, it won't please the human reader :)
78 2010-12-04T02:31:06 <Kapace_> hey ThomasWaldmann, im thinking of doing another moinmoin task
79 2010-12-04T02:31:21 <ThomasWaldmann> and this is why even in other languages than python the good coders are indenting their stuff correctly
80 2010-12-04T02:31:36 <Kapace_> do you know which test would be under "Hard" difficulty to fix?
81 2010-12-04T02:32:11 <ThomasWaldmann> let's run them and see :)
82 2010-12-04T02:32:28 <ThomasWaldmann> do it in parallel with me, so you can have a look
83 2010-12-04T02:32:35 <ThomasWaldmann> ./pytest | less
84 2010-12-04T02:33:06 <Kapace_> ok, running
85 2010-12-04T02:34:45 <ThomasWaldmann> the really hard ones can be because something in the code is rather wrong / not there still, but some of them might be too hard
86 2010-12-04T02:35:32 <ThomasWaldmann> fan spinning faster :)
87 2010-12-04T02:35:37 <Kapace_> same here lol
88 2010-12-04T02:35:44 <Kapace_> but only using one core :/
89 2010-12-04T02:36:49 <ThomasWaldmann> one usually should run this while doing other stuff :)
90 2010-12-04T02:36:57 <moin2> submitted
91 2010-12-04T02:37:35 <moin2> i'm running it
92 2010-12-04T02:38:04 <Kapace_> what does "s" mean in the testing output?
93 2010-12-04T02:38:28 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: use .... # blah
94 2010-12-04T02:38:34 <ThomasWaldmann> not ##
95 2010-12-04T02:38:39 <ThomasWaldmann> and not #blah
96 2010-12-04T02:39:16 <moin2> can you paste an example
97 2010-12-04T02:39:27 <ThomasWaldmann> and you could start that comment above "del"
98 2010-12-04T02:39:37 <ThomasWaldmann> so it fits in one line
99 2010-12-04T02:39:59 <ThomasWaldmann> # this is a comment
100 2010-12-04T02:40:04 <ThomasWaldmann> del ...
101 2010-12-04T02:40:49 <ThomasWaldmann> don't use item_names=wanteds
102 2010-12-04T02:41:04 <ThomasWaldmann> this is misleading, it is not just the (list of) names
103 2010-12-04T02:41:09 <Kapace_> ThomasWaldmann: I hate to ask then leave, but dinner is ready, if you could hang on for a few minutes and Ill join you at looking at the output?
104 2010-12-04T02:41:19 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe just use wanteds=wanteds
105 2010-12-04T02:41:29 <moin2> ok, i'll be looking at it, take your time
106 2010-12-04T02:41:30 <ThomasWaldmann> Kapace_: yeah
107 2010-12-04T02:41:38 <ThomasWaldmann> not too long though, sleep time here
108 2010-12-04T02:41:47 <Kapace_> alright, thanks
109 2010-12-04T02:42:41 <moin2> oh never mind i got confused
110 2010-12-04T02:42:55 <ThomasWaldmann> please indent template correctly
111 2010-12-04T02:43:07 <moin2> i have validated it, am looking through it
112 2010-12-04T02:44:14 <ThomasWaldmann> \ No newline at end of file
113 2010-12-04T02:44:19 <ThomasWaldmann> also fix that
114 2010-12-04T02:44:28 <moin2> what does it mean
115 2010-12-04T02:44:35 <ThomasWaldmann> i am not saying it is invalid, it just doesn't look good
116 2010-12-04T02:44:39 <moin2> ok
117 2010-12-04T02:45:12 <ThomasWaldmann> just hit enter after your last non-whitespace char in the file
118 2010-12-04T02:45:55 <moin2> how does this look: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300081/
119 2010-12-04T02:49:07 <Kapace_> ok back
120 2010-12-04T02:49:49 <ThomasWaldmann> fast food? :D
121 2010-12-04T02:50:20 <Kapace_> heh, roast beef wolfed it down..
122 2010-12-04T02:51:21 <moin2> does that paste look okay
123 2010-12-04T02:53:58 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: line18 -> current_item
124 2010-12-04T02:54:32 <ThomasWaldmann> and use "# xx", not "#xx"
125 2010-12-04T02:55:06 <ThomasWaldmann> other than that, it looks good
126 2010-12-04T02:55:12 <ThomasWaldmann> do a full diff next time
127 2010-12-04T02:55:32 <moin2> on tortoise?
128 2010-12-04T02:56:54 <moin2> and the validator is confusing me
129 2010-12-04T02:58:02 <ThomasWaldmann> Kapace_: how about fixing the html_out tests (most look rather similar)
130 2010-12-04T02:58:29 <ThomasWaldmann> you'll have to look at converters, moin dom, xpath stuff, but i guess it is doable
131 2010-12-04T02:58:54 <ThomasWaldmann> in case it is unexpectedly easy, we maybe could find some more xpath work :)
132 2010-12-04T02:59:32 <Kapace_> ok sounds good, i forgot to hg pull -u, so pytest is still running
133 2010-12-04T03:00:12 <ThomasWaldmann> did you work with xml stuff yet?
134 2010-12-04T03:01:12 <Kapace_> in MoinMoin, or XML in general?
135 2010-12-04T03:03:46 <ThomasWaldmann> in general
136 2010-12-04T03:04:08 <Kapace_> I have some expirience, but not a lot of Xpath
137 2010-12-04T03:05:35 <Kapace_> pytest says "/_tests/test_html_in.py S"
138 2010-12-04T03:06:09 <ThomasWaldmann> MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_html_out.py ............................FF...FFFF..............F
139 2010-12-04T03:06:11 <Kapace_> erm "/_tests/test_html_out.py S"
140 2010-12-04T03:06:18 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean these failures
141 2010-12-04T03:06:29 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you need lxml
142 2010-12-04T03:06:32 <Kapace_> i don't see that,
143 2010-12-04T03:06:36 <Kapace_> ah ok
144 2010-12-04T03:07:12 <ThomasWaldmann> doesn't it tell that?
145 2010-12-04T03:07:51 <ThomasWaldmann> py.test.skip("lxml module required to run test for html_out converter.")
146 2010-12-04T03:09:40 <Kapace_> hmm, i don't see that in the output, but i see the failures now
147 2010-12-04T03:12:11 <ThomasWaldmann> afaics, 6 failures are basically same problem
148 2010-12-04T03:12:20 <moin2> i am confused with the formatting of the template
149 2010-12-04T03:12:21 <ThomasWaldmann> 1 is something different
150 2010-12-04T03:12:38 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: just indent it correctly
151 2010-12-04T03:12:54 <ThomasWaldmann> outer tags indented less than inner tags
152 2010-12-04T03:14:59 <moin2> will do
153 2010-12-04T03:15:35 <ThomasWaldmann> Kapace_: hmm, about difficulty: maybe it could be rather medium or easy. problem is one knows afterwards :D
154 2010-12-04T03:16:10 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we need to handle that a bit dynamically :D
155 2010-12-04T03:16:29 <Kapace_> yeah, that seems to be a problem in GCI
156 2010-12-04T03:16:41 <Kapace_> you can't really know the difficulty of a task before it is done
157 2010-12-04T03:16:46 <moin2> this good?:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/300086/
158 2010-12-04T03:17:05 <Kapace_> perhaps it should be a post-review proccess of determining how difficult the task was
159 2010-12-04T03:17:26 <ThomasWaldmann> Kapace_: at least for the non-trivial stuff that's not just work
160 2010-12-04T03:17:52 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but i guess this year we can't do that
161 2010-12-04T03:18:31 <ThomasWaldmann> but if you claim to work on converter test issues, that gives some room for flexibility
162 2010-12-04T03:18:31 <Kapace_> also: a difficulty standard
163 2010-12-04T03:18:41 <Kapace_> right
164 2010-12-04T03:19:00 <ThomasWaldmann> what's also a problem is that difficulty != effort imho
165 2010-12-04T03:19:22 <ThomasWaldmann> but the point system maybe rather also should address effort
166 2010-12-04T03:19:24 <Kapace_> yeah, but what is your definition of difficulty?
167 2010-12-04T03:19:43 <Kapace_> time * effort + result?
168 2010-12-04T03:19:46 <ThomasWaldmann> how much brain you need to solve :)
169 2010-12-04T03:19:51 <Kapace_> there has to be some formula
170 2010-12-04T03:19:54 <ThomasWaldmann> that's difficulty
171 2010-12-04T03:20:03 <ThomasWaldmann> effort is how much work it is
172 2010-12-04T03:20:39 <ThomasWaldmann> there can be rather easy/stupid tasks, but needing a lot of effort
173 2010-12-04T03:20:58 <Kapace_> like wiki edits/filling
174 2010-12-04T03:21:07 <ThomasWaldmann> and there can be difficult tasks that someone with good skills can solve quickly
175 2010-12-04T03:22:07 <Kapace_> alright, but how does this assert work: "assert (tree.xpath(xpath))" ?
176 2010-12-04T03:22:31 <ThomasWaldmann> but maybe that is just my POV, maybe difficulty for google rather means effort OR difficulty :)
177 2010-12-04T03:22:58 <Kapace_> but in any case, should be documented somewhere..
178 2010-12-04T03:23:12 <ThomasWaldmann> the stuff right of assert is an expression that is asserted to be trueish
179 2010-12-04T03:23:16 <moin2> how is that post?
180 2010-12-04T03:23:25 <moin2> paste, not post
181 2010-12-04T03:24:02 <Kapace_> right, what determines if an etree is true or false?
182 2010-12-04T03:25:09 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2: better, but not consistent and you are either using tabs or 8blanks. looks at how other templates look like.
183 2010-12-04T03:26:16 <ThomasWaldmann> Kapace_: it evaluates an xpath in that case
184 2010-12-04T03:27:04 <ThomasWaldmann> and empty list is falsy and means it didn't match
185 2010-12-04T03:27:32 <ThomasWaldmann> read xpath spec if you are (as me) not familiar with it
186 2010-12-04T03:28:45 <Kapace_> ok i see, pdb is useful to see the output of that assert
187 2010-12-04T03:29:29 <ThomasWaldmann> output was []?
188 2010-12-04T03:29:34 *** moin2
189 2010-12-04T03:29:37 <Kapace_> yes
190 2010-12-04T03:30:06 <ThomasWaldmann> pytest shows that (without pdb)
191 2010-12-04T03:30:17 <Kapace_> oh, i see
192 2010-12-04T03:30:20 <Kapace_> assert []
193 2010-12-04T03:30:45 <Kapace_> but pdb can still help with expirimenting :)
194 2010-12-04T03:31:06 *** moin2
195 2010-12-04T03:32:14 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, in general, in the converter tests and code, there is quite some fluctuation, so it is not always clear whether the test failing means incorrect code or is just a test not matching the correct code
196 2010-12-04T03:32:54 <ThomasWaldmann> so we need to fix that at the right place :)
197 2010-12-04T03:34:11 <ThomasWaldmann> but that xpath testing is much better than those string compares :)
198 2010-12-04T03:37:02 <Kapace_> i agree blindly ;)
199 2010-12-04T03:52:24 * ThomasWaldmann .sleep()
200 2010-12-04T03:54:13 <Kapace_> ok night ThomasWaldmann
201 2010-12-04T04:00:37 *** nickr5
202 2010-12-04T04:05:11 <Kapace_> ThomasWaldmann: right, I see your point now: is it supposed to be the test supposed to check for moin-small, or small. My theory is it should check for moin-small
203 2010-12-04T04:07:07 *** ronny
204 2010-12-04T04:08:52 <Kapace_> erm, i think the code produces "moin-small", but the outdated test checks for "small"
205 2010-12-04T04:09:14 <Kapace_> but I'm not to sure about who is right, probably have to check the reversion history
206 2010-12-04T04:24:22 *** moin2
207 2010-12-04T04:41:35 <Kapace_> so, the first few fixes are pretty obvious, seems like just the class names have changed to include a "moin-" prefix...
208 2010-12-04T04:42:31 <Kapace_> im unsure about the last failure, it seems like a ElementException is supposed to be raised but it isn't..
209 2010-12-04T05:10:46 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
210 2010-12-04T05:20:46 <Kapace_> that was me :P I think it works out better for me to finish a lot of easy tasks rather than combine lots of test fixes into one hard task
211 2010-12-04T05:42:40 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
212 2010-12-04T05:42:41 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
213 2010-12-04T06:13:36 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
214 2010-12-04T06:13:36 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
215 2010-12-04T06:43:46 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
216 2010-12-04T06:43:46 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
217 2010-12-04T07:08:10 <Kapace> I feel that theres a lot of broken software driving GCI, and I sense some irony in this situation
218 2010-12-04T07:15:42 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
219 2010-12-04T07:15:42 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
220 2010-12-04T07:23:41 *** kursor
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222 2010-12-04T07:45:52 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
223 2010-12-04T08:16:15 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
224 2010-12-04T08:16:16 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
225 2010-12-04T08:47:24 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964528 (find a failing test, determine problem, fix it (difficulty: easy) 1/3)
226 2010-12-04T08:47:24 <GCIBot> ClaimRequested: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965501 (find a bug, fix a bug (difficulty: medium) 2/3)
227 2010-12-04T08:54:41 <dreimark> Kapace: claim request accepted
228 2010-12-04T08:54:45 <dreimark> moin
229 2010-12-04T08:56:11 <Kapace_> dreimark: do you know about the html output converter?
230 2010-12-04T09:02:00 <dreimark> Kapace_: not very good, please catch waldi
231 2010-12-04T09:07:13 <dreimark> or just ask it is even better to see a question. instead ask to ask
232 2010-12-04T09:10:56 <Kapace_> hmm, well it sounds pretty specific, but I'm not sure why ConverterPage is supposed to raise an ElementException given an unknown page
233 2010-12-04T09:14:46 <dreimark> you refer to test_uknown ?
234 2010-12-04T09:18:57 <dreimark> s/test_uknown/test_unknown/
235 2010-12-04T09:19:33 <Kapace_> yes
236 2010-12-04T09:26:12 <dreimark> i think the tag unknown is just not defined as a valid one
237 2010-12-04T09:37:36 <Kapace_> ok, well I'll take a better look at it tommorow, good night o/
238 2010-12-04T09:53:29 <dreimark> night Kapace_
239 2010-12-04T10:01:51 <dreimark> bbl
240 2010-12-04T10:24:28 *** rfw
241 2010-12-04T10:42:58 *** kursor
242 2010-12-04T11:28:45 *** greg_f
243 2010-12-04T12:03:56 *** ronny
244 2010-12-04T12:24:23 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
245 2010-12-04T12:58:06 <dreimark> re
246 2010-12-04T16:04:06 *** nickr5
247 2010-12-04T19:40:41 *** greg_f
248 2010-12-04T19:57:15 *** kursor
249 2010-12-04T20:49:17 *** rfw
250 2010-12-04T20:49:17 *** rfw
251 2010-12-04T20:49:38 *** achshar
252 2010-12-04T20:49:55 <achshar> hello!
253 2010-12-04T20:50:18 <achshar> i have the task to determine the color markup
254 2010-12-04T20:50:54 <achshar> i just wantes to know that how do i submit my report? i discussed here that a text file would be it
255 2010-12-04T20:51:13 <dreimark> yes attach it to melange
256 2010-12-04T20:51:16 <achshar> but task page reads "You must deliver a wiki page with examples"
257 2010-12-04T20:51:29 <dreimark> that it true too
258 2010-12-04T20:51:49 <dreimark> s/it/is
259 2010-12-04T20:52:04 <achshar> so do i create a wiki page on moin or submit the text file?
260 2010-12-04T20:52:13 <dreimark> first the wiki page
261 2010-12-04T20:52:23 <dreimark> you can save it and submit it too
262 2010-12-04T20:52:37 <achshar> ohkeez
263 2010-12-04T20:53:05 <dreimark> please create a subpage below the one mentioned in your task
264 2010-12-04T20:53:42 <achshar> well as for the project itself.. i'v been crawling many wiki sites out there but they do not seem to have any specific markup for color
265 2010-12-04T20:53:54 <achshar> yes i will do that :)
266 2010-12-04T20:56:20 *** kursor
267 2010-12-04T20:56:51 <achshar> so i will have to invent something of my own but i really dont see any problem with simple <<span(style="")>>
268 2010-12-04T20:57:07 <dreimark> do you have asked on #wiki ?
269 2010-12-04T20:57:31 <dreimark> achshar: this is not markup it is a macro
270 2010-12-04T20:58:04 <dreimark> much to type - if you have an idea to simplify it
271 2010-12-04T20:58:34 <achshar> hmm yes that i can do
272 2010-12-04T20:58:57 <achshar> but i believe it does not have to restrict to the'<<' format right?
273 2010-12-04T20:59:20 <achshar> like for example i can use [span style blah]
274 2010-12-04T21:00:19 *** m4k3r
275 2010-12-04T21:00:19 *** achshar
276 2010-12-04T21:03:09 *** achshar
277 2010-12-04T21:04:22 <achshar> i could not understand what you said here 'do you have asked on #wiki ?':-(
278 2010-12-04T21:08:30 <dreimark> achshar: this is an other channel on freenode. in general about wiki
279 2010-12-04T21:09:57 <achshar> hmm alright thanks for that info :D very usefull
280 2010-12-04T21:19:02 *** achshar
281 2010-12-04T21:20:35 *** achshar
282 2010-12-04T21:35:32 *** achshar
283 2010-12-04T21:35:57 *** achshar
284 2010-12-04T21:36:12 *** achshar
285 2010-12-04T21:51:48 *** achshar
286 2010-12-04T22:01:27 <TheSheep> achshar: you may want to read the rants on wikicreole.org
287 2010-12-04T22:05:06 <achshar> [color=orange][/color] this is the irst recomendation in my present report :D
288 2010-12-04T22:05:30 <achshar> thanks. finaly some wiki site which uses text color
289 2010-12-04T22:05:46 <achshar> thanks fot that lnk
290 2010-12-04T22:06:23 <achshar> i think i am ready to put up a wiki page, what should i name the subpage?
291 2010-12-04T22:06:24 *** achshar
292 2010-12-04T22:07:01 *** achshar
293 2010-12-04T22:07:04 <achshar> i think i am ready to put up a wiki page, what should i name the subpage?
294 2010-12-04T22:16:08 <Kapace_> dreimark: you said "page:unknown" was an invalid tag.. is there a reference of which tags are valid or not?
295 2010-12-04T22:26:17 <achshar> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/Markup%20for%20Colour/submission i have submited for review.
296 2010-12-04T22:39:11 *** moin2
297 2010-12-04T22:39:11 *** achshar
298 2010-12-04T22:41:01 *** achshar
299 2010-12-04T22:45:20 <jbills> ^ ThomasWaldmann: Any suggestions on this? https://gist.github.com/727189 It doesnt seem to work for me.
300 2010-12-04T23:07:20 <jbills> Any suggestions on this? https://gist.github.com/727189 It doesnt seem to work for me.
301 2010-12-04T23:07:21 *** achshar
302 2010-12-04T23:08:09 *** achshar
303 2010-12-04T23:13:52 <moin2> i need help with html indentation
304 2010-12-04T23:18:54 <jbills> plz help
305 2010-12-04T23:25:45 *** achshar
306 2010-12-04T23:46:37 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: good idea with the itemtranscludes metadata
307 2010-12-04T23:46:56 <ThomasWaldmann> i added a bit to it on EasyToDo
308 2010-12-04T23:53:24 *** rfw
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