1 2010-11-24T00:01:30 *** maker__
2 2010-11-24T00:51:02 *** grzywacz
3 2010-11-24T01:15:22 *** Guest58993
4 2010-11-24T01:33:10 *** nick
5 2010-11-24T01:33:35 *** nick
6 2010-11-24T03:28:31 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: oh no, weather is much colder in Korea than in Germany during winter, about -15~-20C
7 2010-11-24T05:12:01 *** kursor
8 2010-11-24T07:28:14 <dreimark> valeuf: terrible pictures on tv about a conflict there
9 2010-11-24T07:28:25 <dreimark> moin
10 2010-11-24T07:37:41 *** m4k3r
11 2010-11-24T07:57:16 <dreimark> m4k3r: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/rev/448693945fe6
12 2010-11-24T07:57:40 <m4k3r> \m/
13 2010-11-24T07:57:50 <m4k3r> The task for VLC is almost finished!
14 2010-11-24T07:58:01 <dreimark> you are fast :)
15 2010-11-24T07:58:03 <m4k3r> But now I have to go to school lol.
16 2010-11-24T07:58:20 <dreimark> hehe, me gets a coffee and then office
17 2010-11-24T08:05:59 *** m4k3r
18 2010-11-24T09:15:28 *** kursor
19 2010-11-24T09:41:15 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037966150#ws7001 < someone please review that
20 2010-11-24T09:41:23 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: maybe you? ^^
21 2010-11-24T09:41:50 <ThomasWaldmann> shaun and thesheep would be a good combination :D
22 2010-11-24T09:43:12 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: ugh, brrrr
23 2010-11-24T09:44:07 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I'm at work now :(
24 2010-11-24T09:50:20 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i submitted a short comment for now and invited the student to join us here
25 2010-11-24T09:51:04 <ThomasWaldmann> his current "solution" is a piece of example html with javascript (for the header-anchor-link/mouseover task)
26 2010-11-24T09:58:11 *** greg_f
27 2010-11-24T10:03:30 <TheSheep> ugh
28 2010-11-24T11:23:30 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you havent sent the soc money yet, right?
29 2010-11-24T13:04:03 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: on my todo
30 2010-11-24T13:04:25 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: waldi: how about your invoices?
31 2010-11-24T14:18:45 *** m4k3r
32 2010-11-24T15:45:27 *** kursor
33 2010-11-24T16:19:25 *** aviraldg
34 2010-11-24T16:20:20 *** gwork
35 2010-11-24T16:21:24 *** Kapace_
36 2010-11-24T16:24:31 *** Kapace_
37 2010-11-24T16:28:14 *** aviraldg
38 2010-11-24T16:28:19 *** aviraldg1
39 2010-11-24T16:29:18 *** TheSheep
40 2010-11-24T16:29:34 *** TheSheep
41 2010-11-24T16:51:43 *** gwork
42 2010-11-24T17:11:23 *** RogerHaase
43 2010-11-24T17:14:32 <m4k3r> dreimark: !
44 2010-11-24T17:17:41 <ThomasWaldmann> hi m4k3r
45 2010-11-24T17:20:19 *** maker__
46 2010-11-24T17:21:38 *** m4k3r
47 2010-11-24T17:33:02 <maker__> dreimark: task done.
48 2010-11-24T17:33:19 <maker__> Now, tell me, what's the next one about?
49 2010-11-24T18:09:59 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you help ^
50 2010-11-24T18:10:07 *** shaun1
51 2010-11-24T18:10:27 <dreimark> maker__: as i rember i suggested orphaned view
52 2010-11-24T18:13:06 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/OrphanedItems check if someone else jumped on it
53 2010-11-24T18:13:21 <dreimark> i'm on the way back to home
54 2010-11-24T18:13:30 <dreimark> may be ThomasWaldmann has another idea too
55 2010-11-24T18:13:42 <maker__> WTF, I have problems with melange.
56 2010-11-24T18:13:49 <maker__> Ok, have to go.
57 2010-11-24T18:13:56 <maker__> I'll check this night.
58 2010-11-24T18:14:11 <dreimark> :)
59 2010-11-24T18:14:12 <maker__> dreimark: so strange, melange acts like I'm not registered as a student.
60 2010-11-24T18:14:24 <dreimark> oh
61 2010-11-24T18:14:55 <shaun1> so i do not understand what i am supposed to do
62 2010-11-24T18:15:06 <dreimark> TheSheep: ^
63 2010-11-24T18:15:16 <maker__> It keeps on "Awaiting Registration" and I cannot claim other tasks.
64 2010-11-24T18:15:34 <dreimark> there must be a form to add some data
65 2010-11-24T18:16:33 <dreimark> in your case it looks in my interface good - because I see Closed and not the Awaiting ...
66 2010-11-24T18:16:49 <dreimark> I try to catch later sverre on melanbe
67 2010-11-24T18:17:11 <TheSheep> shaun1: can you give me the link to your task?
68 2010-11-24T18:17:30 <shaun1> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037966150
69 2010-11-24T18:19:05 <dreimark> bbl
70 2010-11-24T18:19:32 <dreimark> TheSheep: ^^
71 2010-11-24T18:20:00 <TheSheep> dreimark: I see it
72 2010-11-24T18:20:01 <dreimark> shaun1: if you set a name the user gets a notification
73 2010-11-24T18:20:10 <dreimark> ok
74 2010-11-24T18:21:25 <TheSheep> shaun1: looks like you need to modify the code that does the transclusion to include the link.
75 2010-11-24T18:21:33 <TheSheep> shaun1: do you have the code checked out?
76 2010-11-24T18:23:23 <shaun1> TheSheep: it does not have the link right now?
77 2010-11-24T18:24:59 <TheSheep> shaun1: it's easy for you to check
78 2010-11-24T18:27:30 <TheSheep> shaun1: to finish the task, you need to change the code so that moinmoin works the way described, and then send that change to melange
79 2010-11-24T18:28:11 <TheSheep> shaun1: so first, you need to check out the code from the http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev repository
80 2010-11-24T18:28:40 <TheSheep> have you done it? do you know how to do it? if not, say so
81 2010-11-24T18:29:07 <TheSheep> then you need to start the development server and make an example page with transclusion
82 2010-11-24T18:29:13 <TheSheep> on which you will be testing it
83 2010-11-24T18:29:50 <TheSheep> finally, you need to modify the file that Thomas was talking about to add all the needed html, css and js
84 2010-11-24T18:30:15 <TheSheep> when you are happy with how everything works, you need to make a patch from your changes -- I can help you with that
85 2010-11-24T18:30:24 <TheSheep> then you upload the patch and are done
86 2010-11-24T18:30:47 <TheSheep> let me know when you get the code and start the wiki, or when you have any trouble with it
87 2010-11-24T18:31:19 <shaun1> ok i'll try to get going on that
88 2010-11-24T18:32:45 <shaun1> wait so which page do i need to modify?
89 2010-11-24T18:33:02 <TheSheep> not page, code of moinmoin itself
90 2010-11-24T18:33:15 <TheSheep> the code that generates all the pages
91 2010-11-24T18:34:20 <TheSheep> you may need to make the change in several places, but ThomasWaldmann advised to start with converter/html_out.py
92 2010-11-24T18:34:47 <TheSheep> it's the code that is called to output html of a page
93 2010-11-24T18:35:09 <TheSheep> you need to find the place that is responsible for transclusion
94 2010-11-24T18:40:53 <ThomasWaldmann> maker__: btw, if you succeed with Orphaned Items, you maybe can easily do Wanted Items afterwards
95 2010-11-24T18:46:46 *** shaun1
96 2010-11-24T18:47:02 * TheSheep shrugs and goes to eat
97 2010-11-24T19:14:05 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Is there something else I need to do to fix any of the changesets in my bitbucket repo?
98 2010-11-24T19:30:23 *** greg_f
99 2010-11-24T19:31:33 *** kursor
100 2010-11-24T20:20:11 <dreimark> .oO long time not seen Internal Server Error on MM
101 2010-11-24T20:20:26 <dreimark> and that because of Hits
102 2010-11-24T20:25:21 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
103 2010-11-24T20:28:18 <dreimark> it seems still slower as usual
104 2010-11-24T20:30:31 <dreimark> if i now save a page it gets send but the browser submitting it seems to be in an endless loop
105 2010-11-24T20:32:59 <dreimark> saving of WikiSandBox #
106 2010-11-24T20:33:01 <dreimark> # total = 8.840s
107 2010-11-24T20:41:32 *** arcoleo
108 2010-11-24T20:45:39 <ThomasWaldmann> re
109 2010-11-24T20:57:48 *** arcoleo
110 2010-11-24T21:18:35 <maker__> dreimark: seems like I have to wait a bit for my student account. Meanwhile, could you act like the task was claimed? Also, I don't know anything about jinja, is it difficoult to learn?
111 2010-11-24T21:18:49 <maker__> *dif-fi-cult
112 2010-11-24T21:19:40 <dreimark> maker__: not difficult - http://www.pocoo.org/projects/jinja2/#jinja2
113 2010-11-24T21:24:18 <maker__> Uhm.
114 2010-11-24T21:27:57 <maker__> dreimark: If i understood correctly, I have to write a sort of spider, that using jinja, browses the wiki pages searching for Orphaned Pages?
115 2010-11-24T21:28:20 <dreimark> not really
116 2010-11-24T21:28:37 <dreimark> the items itselfs knows the links in meta data
117 2010-11-24T21:28:46 <dreimark> you need to access the meta data in python
118 2010-11-24T21:28:53 <dreimark> and have to feed the data to a template
119 2010-11-24T21:28:57 <dreimark> which is rendered then
120 2010-11-24T21:29:34 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/a35ada0a17bc/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py#l76
121 2010-11-24T21:30:43 <maker__> So I have to render into template page using jinja, the bindings a wiki page has?
122 2010-11-24T21:31:16 <dreimark> orphaned means not linked by any other item
123 2010-11-24T21:31:35 <dreimark> you have to find those and the result is a list
124 2010-11-24T21:31:37 <dreimark> then
125 2010-11-24T21:32:09 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/OrphanedPages
126 2010-11-24T21:32:31 <dreimark> it is the same functionality as in moin-1.x but just for items
127 2010-11-24T21:32:39 <dreimark> and using a template
128 2010-11-24T21:34:56 <dreimark> in principal it can be this http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/a35ada0a17bc/MoinMoin/templates/item_link_list.html
129 2010-11-24T21:35:56 <dreimark> or slightly modified
130 2010-11-24T21:39:06 <maker__> Mh, this time a have to go deep inside moinmoin library structure.
131 2010-11-24T21:39:11 <maker__> *I have
132 2010-11-24T21:41:33 <dreimark> a little bit. you can look where the item_link_list is used
133 2010-11-24T21:42:15 <dreimark> and I think it is not needed to write a new template, but if so it is a good example
134 2010-11-24T21:42:52 <dreimark> and getting meta data is not so difficult there are some tests you can look into for examples
135 2010-11-24T21:42:54 <maker__> It could be a new task.
136 2010-11-24T21:43:01 <maker__> But, ehat about this?
137 2010-11-24T21:43:03 <maker__> *what
138 2010-11-24T21:43:04 <maker__> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/a35ada0a17bc/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py#l1069
139 2010-11-24T21:43:51 <maker__> (sorry, I was in ninja-mode and my fingers are a little tired)
140 2010-11-24T21:44:16 <dreimark> as you see the code has everything
141 2010-11-24T21:44:25 <dreimark> it just needs to sticked together
142 2010-11-24T21:44:31 <dreimark> +be
143 2010-11-24T22:00:32 <maker__> <maker__> dreimark: everything I need from MoinMoin library is MoinMoin.items.__init__ and that template you linked?
144 2010-11-24T22:00:33 <maker__> <maker__> (ok, tests excluded)
145 2010-11-24T22:03:18 <dreimark> a little bit more it needs to become a view similiar to e.g. "global history"
146 2010-11-24T22:03:51 <dreimark> it should be no macro.
147 2010-11-24T22:09:00 <dreimark> e.g. http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/a35ada0a17bc/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py
148 2010-11-24T22:10:34 <maker__> dreimark: so it's just a function?
149 2010-11-24T22:14:58 <dreimark> yes
150 2010-11-24T22:15:27 <dreimark> and a test
151 2010-11-24T22:16:11 <dreimark> (if it is required, if it is covered not really)
152 2010-11-24T22:16:47 * maker__ was thinking about metaclasses with lots of properties
153 2010-11-24T22:17:24 <maker__> dreimark: and it should be placed in MoinMoin.items or in MoinMoin.view?
154 2010-11-24T22:17:29 <dreimark> there may be taks later which needs that. I am not sure yet.
155 2010-11-24T22:17:35 <dreimark> in views
156 2010-11-24T22:49:07 *** xorAxAx
157 2010-11-24T22:52:34 <dreimark> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037970928
158 2010-11-24T22:52:55 *** xorAxAx
159 2010-11-24T23:01:29 *** RogerHaase
160 2010-11-24T23:21:24 <dreimark> gn
161 2010-11-24T23:26:46 <maker__> o/
162 2010-11-24T23:28:06 *** maker__
163 2010-11-24T23:30:22 <ThomasWaldmann> re