1 2010-11-06T00:44:23  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: research and document not code for dropbox
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   3 2010-11-06T01:09:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: dreimark: please fill in your mentor profile for gci
   4 2010-11-06T01:11:12  <dreimark> done
   5 2010-11-06T03:51:06  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GCI2010
   6 2010-11-06T08:56:34  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: done
   7 2010-11-06T08:56:59  <ronny> oh, wait
   8 2010-11-06T08:59:29  <ronny> hmmk
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  10 2010-11-06T11:54:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  11 2010-11-06T12:08:32  <dreimark> moin
  12 2010-11-06T12:08:57  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i included the first part of our frontpage to the easy to do page
  13 2010-11-06T12:09:15  <dreimark> if you currently look at the participating organizations list
  14 2010-11-06T12:09:36  <dreimark> and follow a link you likly have no idea what the project is about
  15 2010-11-06T12:49:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  16 2010-11-06T13:07:48  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: dreimark: shall we discuss all the easytodo items one after another on irc today?
  17 2010-11-06T13:08:00  <xorAxAx> why today?
  18 2010-11-06T13:08:12  <ThomasWaldmann> to get forward :)
  19 2010-11-06T13:09:00  <dreimark> yes, tom. is a day where i should time to work on tasks - at least more than each other day next week
  20 2010-11-06T13:09:10  <ThomasWaldmann> if we could rule out some crap / much too hard stuff, we would have to create less subpages
  21 2010-11-06T13:09:19  <dreimark> so discussing today is a good idea
  22 2010-11-06T13:10:02  <dreimark> I have todo some shoppings soon so after 15:00 please
  23 2010-11-06T13:10:03  <ThomasWaldmann> (we are somehow expected to have ~100 tasks until 22.11.)
  24 2010-11-06T13:10:51  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you don't have time today?
  25 2010-11-06T13:11:03  <xorAxAx> i am bit busy, indeed
  26 2010-11-06T13:11:08  <xorAxAx> need to learn for an exam
  27 2010-11-06T13:11:43  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, did you work on the bulk import script yesterday?
  28 2010-11-06T13:12:15  <xorAxAx> no
  29 2010-11-06T13:12:36  <xorAxAx> as it doesnt have immediate priority
  30 2010-11-06T13:13:42  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, we need it in 1 week :)
  31 2010-11-06T13:14:11  * ThomasWaldmann would like to do 2 import runs in 1 week and in 2 weeks from now
  32 2010-11-06T13:14:25  <xorAxAx> should be doable
  33 2010-11-06T13:14:48  <ThomasWaldmann> problem is that program is announced and students already busy looking for stuff maybe
  34 2010-11-06T13:15:04  <ThomasWaldmann> so we shouldn't hold all back until last day
  35 2010-11-06T13:16:28  <xorAxAx> can they view the tasks already before 22th?
  36 2010-11-06T13:17:38  <ThomasWaldmann> don't know
  37 2010-11-06T13:18:09  <ThomasWaldmann> (they can look at our EasyToDo, obviously, but not sure whether it is publically visible in melange)
  38 2010-11-06T13:19:37  * dreimark tries
  39 2010-11-06T13:20:15  <dreimark> Tasks Quota: 9999 - doesn't look like
  40 2010-11-06T13:20:40  <dreimark> you can become a mentor
  41 2010-11-06T13:23:01  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
  42 2010-11-06T13:23:19  * dreimark retries - i have to create a user profile first
  43 2010-11-06T13:28:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: xorAxAx you can't read currently without beeing mentor or admin the task list on melange
  44 2010-11-06T13:28:30  <dreimark> you get "You first need to sign up as an Org Admin or a Mentor. "
  45 2010-11-06T13:29:44  <dreimark> I think students do look at the Easytodo page because that is the only useful information which is linked to for the tasks
  46 2010-11-06T13:31:00  <dreimark> bbl
  47 2010-11-06T13:41:09  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you are not a mentor yet ("just admin"), if you want to mentor, invite yourself, accept, fill out mentor profile
  48 2010-11-06T13:43:49  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/mentor/request/google/gci2010/moinmoin if someone else wants to help caring for students, use that link (log in to your google account first)
  49 2010-11-06T13:46:17  <xorAxAx> slowww
  50 2010-11-06T13:47:46  <ThomasWaldmann> at least it's not crashing for every 2nd request :)
  51 2010-11-06T13:47:51  * ThomasWaldmann accepted
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  53 2010-11-06T13:51:30  * ThomasWaldmann clarifies that the difficulty level is the skill level for the required skills
  54 2010-11-06T13:52:31  <ThomasWaldmann> so if we require rocket science and give "easy", you have to be a beginner in rocket science :)
  55 2010-11-06T14:17:44  <ThomasWaldmann> do we want to use those custom tags for the skill requirements?
  56 2010-11-06T14:18:20  <ThomasWaldmann> like putting python,javascript there?
  57 2010-11-06T14:19:22  <dreimark> yes
  58 2010-11-06T14:20:30  <dreimark> we need to tell early and may be sortable what is required by the student
  59 2010-11-06T14:20:31  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, not sure whether they are visible in the list view
  60 2010-11-06T14:21:12  <ThomasWaldmann> (in the list view a student will get to see)
  61 2010-11-06T14:21:46  <dreimark> we can look into the test melange
  62 2010-11-06T14:22:06  <ThomasWaldmann> see #melange for some questions
  63 2010-11-06T14:23:22  <dreimark> seen - we get answers later - night there
  64 2010-11-06T14:27:28  <dreimark> in melange demo a student sees: Title. org, Difficulty, Points, Type, Time of Complete, Status and Mentors
  65 2010-11-06T14:32:24  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: there is a show hide button for columns
  66 2010-11-06T14:32:32  <dreimark> can you preconfigure what is shown?
  67 2010-11-06T14:33:16  <ThomasWaldmann> not afaik
  68 2010-11-06T14:33:22  <dreimark> it is on bottom of task list table
  69 2010-11-06T14:33:43  <ThomasWaldmann> so tags are not shown in the list?
  70 2010-11-06T14:34:32  <dreimark> no
  71 2010-11-06T14:34:51  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then there is not much point in using these
  72 2010-11-06T14:35:00  <dreimark> a user can enable keys
  73 2010-11-06T14:35:31  <dreimark> but the key looks like a dir/file name
  74 2010-11-06T14:35:36  <dreimark> or ur part
  75 2010-11-06T14:35:39  <dreimark> +i
  76 2010-11-06T14:35:51  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i asked for listing tags on melange
  77 2010-11-06T14:36:23  <ThomasWaldmann> what's the points column for?
  78 2010-11-06T14:36:24  <dreimark> because it can become boring if you have to select lots of tasks to figure which fits your skills
  79 2010-11-06T14:37:22  <dreimark> no idea - i would guess counter of successful tasks
  80 2010-11-06T14:38:07  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is in the task lists i think it only makes sense if points are different for the tasks
  81 2010-11-06T14:38:16  <ThomasWaldmann> which is not the case afaik
  82 2010-11-06T14:38:28  <dreimark> sverre is reading on melange
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  84 2010-11-06T15:58:50  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, who's there to go through the easy todo list with me now?
  85 2010-11-06T16:00:20  <ThomasWaldmann> goal: kick out unsuitable stuff (too hard, not wanted, too early, already done, etc.)
  86 2010-11-06T16:02:13  <ThomasWaldmann> if we think about difficulty, we maybe can also tag it accordingly while we go through the list
  87 2010-11-06T16:03:46  <fluster> Evening.
  88 2010-11-06T16:04:18  <ThomasWaldmann> hi fluster
  89 2010-11-06T16:10:13  * ThomasWaldmann thinks about gci tags
  90 2010-11-06T16:20:25  <ThomasWaldmann> fluster: if you have some question, just ask :)
  91 2010-11-06T16:23:12  <fluster> ThomasWaldmann: nothing at the moment, just checking out moin atm, seems like a good gci project
  92 2010-11-06T16:24:37  <ThomasWaldmann> fluster: ah, ok, we are still working on the task specs, so if you have questions about the task ideas, tell us, it might help to clarify them
  93 2010-11-06T16:30:20  <ThomasWaldmann> (it is a bit unfortunate that there was about no time between organisation acceptance by google and publishing orgs, that time would've been useful to bring stuff into better shape :)
  94 2010-11-06T16:50:34  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: me in a quarter
  95 2010-11-06T17:07:49  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I'm here
  96 2010-11-06T17:10:15  <ThomasWaldmann> shall we move the contents to etherpad for parallel editing?
  97 2010-11-06T17:10:25  <dreimark> yes
  98 2010-11-06T17:10:59  <dreimark> we can use the summit one
  99 2010-11-06T17:11:30  <ThomasWaldmann> http://piratenpad.de/cRoJR4VQhZ
 100 2010-11-06T17:11:35  <dreimark> haha
 101 2010-11-06T17:11:53  <dreimark> may be we should not make it public ;)
 102 2010-11-06T17:14:04  <ThomasWaldmann> the wiki is public, so the ep can also be public
 103 2010-11-06T17:14:15  <dreimark> http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-gci
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