MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-11-02

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   2 2010-11-02T07:55:37  <dreimark> cia restart ;)
   3 2010-11-02T07:55:38  <dreimark> moin
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   8 2010-11-02T10:23:46  <ronny> sup
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  15 2010-11-02T17:05:28  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I am trying to understand http://test.moinmo.in:8080/TestHTML. Moin2 saves page as HTML, but displays it via html_in > html_out converters. But CKEditor reads original HTML resulting in very different markup.  What is eventual goal?
  16 2010-11-02T17:29:14  <RogerHaase> A. html_in > html_out converters will be fixed so displays are identical.
  17 2010-11-02T17:29:45  <RogerHaase> B. Page will be saved after passing through html_in > html_out converter.
  18 2010-11-02T17:30:23  <RogerHaase> C. CKEditor will read page after being passed through html_in > html_out convertor.
  19 2010-11-02T17:32:36  <RogerHaase> D. CKEditor will be fixed.
  20 2010-11-02T17:32:52  <RogerHaase> E. something else?
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  22 2010-11-02T19:02:19  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  23 2010-11-02T19:03:01  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: piping it through the converters is used to sanitize it, filter out dangerous stuff
  24 2010-11-02T19:03:31  <ThomasWaldmann> (i mean when rendering the item)
  25 2010-11-02T19:03:55  <ThomasWaldmann> might be a good idea to do the same in reverse when saving the item, but that is not done right now iirc
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  28 2010-11-02T19:10:00  <dreimark> RogerHaase: there is one on the ml with ie problems I guess because of the auto scroll editor feature
  29 2010-11-02T19:10:16  <dreimark> can you have a look if time
  30 2010-11-02T19:11:59  <RogerHaase> dreimark: I will take a look.
  31 2010-11-02T19:13:58  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: OK, so eventually we expect HTML pages will be saved after passing through html_in > html_out converter.
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  33 2010-11-02T19:16:56  <dreimark> there may be should at least at the beginning a diff log
  34 2010-11-02T19:18:54  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yes, as soon as someone cares about that :)
  35 2010-11-02T19:19:12  <ThomasWaldmann> aka "roundtripping"
  36 2010-11-02T19:19:31  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: or rather some tests
  37 2010-11-02T19:20:49  <dreimark> yes, but a diff could show missing tests or give hints. somehow we need to restrict the power of the editor to that markup we can produce
  38 2010-11-02T19:26:17  <ThomasWaldmann> i won't invest time into gui editing any time soon, so much else to do
  39 2010-11-02T19:28:42  <ThomasWaldmann> and in case someone is bored: the converters and the converter tests need much more love
  40 2010-11-02T19:29:02  <ThomasWaldmann> as well as the Google Code-In preparation just for the case
  41 2010-11-02T19:31:12  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
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  44 2010-11-02T23:56:52  <ronny> waldi: sup?