MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-10-03

   1 2010-10-03T00:07:16  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10057:ee2e80bb6f81 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/__init__.py: add fs19: support to create_simple_mapping
   2 2010-10-03T00:07:16  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10058:7ba00dbd1e98 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs19.py: fs19: cleanup, reorder stuff
   3 2010-10-03T00:07:16  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10059:0a0b74324f5a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fs19: add categories -> tags conversion
   4 2010-10-03T00:07:16  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10060:d59577864ebd 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/_flatutils.py: fix fs19 metadata parsing, get rid of CR
   5 2010-10-03T00:25:56  *** RogerHaase has left #moin-dev
   6 2010-10-03T00:34:35  *** vpv has quit IRC
   7 2010-10-03T00:36:27  *** vpv has joined #moin-dev
   8 2010-10-03T00:39:55  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, processing categories is difficult
   9 2010-10-03T00:40:15  <ThomasWaldmann> or rather: cleanly extracting and removing them from the content
  10 2010-10-03T00:48:55  <ThomasWaldmann> (and only them)
  11 2010-10-03T01:11:21  *** vpv has quit IRC
  12 2010-10-03T01:27:31  *** vpv has joined #moin-dev
  13 2010-10-03T04:59:08  *** ronny has quit IRC
  14 2010-10-03T12:13:20  *** ronny has joined #moin-dev
  15 2010-10-03T16:02:49  * ThomasWaldmann create a bitbucket moin-1.9 mirror
  16 2010-10-03T16:13:39  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: if cleanly extracting is so difficult does it mean the category search does also not work well?
  17 2010-10-03T16:15:09  <ThomasWaldmann> that is less difficult, because it just extracts categories
  18 2010-10-03T16:15:29  <ThomasWaldmann> the code i was writing also tries to remove that stuff from the content
  19 2010-10-03T16:16:02  <dreimark> http://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann
  20 2010-10-03T16:16:24  <dreimark> s/mirrMirror/Mirror
  21 2010-10-03T16:16:28  <dreimark> in 1.9
  22 2010-10-03T16:16:40  <ThomasWaldmann> the current code for example is also extracting stuff from the comments, so for 1.9 data dir of moinmo.in, it extracts Category*
  23 2010-10-03T16:17:15  <ThomasWaldmann> i have already fixed that a few minutes ago
  24 2010-10-03T16:17:32  <dreimark> it is not updated
  25 2010-10-03T16:17:56  <ThomasWaldmann> bitbucket seems to cache a bit too agressively
  26 2010-10-03T16:18:53  <dreimark> the category search normally uses this ----\n in front of the ctegory
  27 2010-10-03T16:19:25  <ThomasWaldmann> sometimes we have
  28 2010-10-03T16:19:27  <ThomasWaldmann> ----
  29 2010-10-03T16:19:31  <ThomasWaldmann> ## bla...
  30 2010-10-03T16:19:35  <ThomasWaldmann> ## bla...
  31 2010-10-03T16:19:40  <ThomasWaldmann> CategoryFoo
  32 2010-10-03T16:20:33  <ThomasWaldmann> so we need to ignore the comments (for category extraction), but still remove them
  33 2010-10-03T16:20:50  <ThomasWaldmann> also remove ---- and the Categories
  34 2010-10-03T16:21:08  <ThomasWaldmann> But what if someone writes, in the middle of a page:
  35 2010-10-03T16:21:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ----
  36 2010-10-03T16:21:34  <dreimark> sounds like it needs two runs. first remove all ## lines then check ----\nCategory* at end of the page
  37 2010-10-03T16:21:41  <ThomasWaldmann> CategoryFoo should be used much less in this wiki.
  38 2010-10-03T16:24:25  <dreimark> never looked if we had as rule to have content after a category. but i believe a category is only allowed on bottom of a page
  39 2010-10-03T16:25:10  <ThomasWaldmann> problem is that ---- is allowed in content, just as a hr.
  40 2010-10-03T16:25:24  <ThomasWaldmann> talking about categories below is also allowed.
  41 2010-10-03T16:25:49  <ThomasWaldmann> there could be even content below categories
  42 2010-10-03T16:26:05  <ThomasWaldmann> so it is a bit hard to know, what exactly to remove.
  43 2010-10-03T16:26:51  <dreimark> remove as much as category search founds this page
  44 2010-10-03T16:28:07  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
  45 2010-10-03T16:30:37  <dreimark> we should find the line category search was refering too for listing this page
  46 2010-10-03T16:30:43  <dreimark> -o
  47 2010-10-03T16:33:06  <dreimark> htg bbl
  48 2010-10-03T19:53:47  <dreimark> re
  49 2010-10-03T20:03:22  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/da7fed3ec62f/MoinMoin/search/Xapian/indexing.py#l294
  50 2010-10-03T20:03:58  <dreimark> if that is right then everything it founds could be removed
  51 2010-10-03T20:13:24  <ThomasWaldmann> a) it is not
  52 2010-10-03T20:13:31  <ThomasWaldmann> b) it isn't that easy
  53 2010-10-03T20:15:30  <dreimark> hmm, then xapian indexing for categories is not right (I asked at noon)
  54 2010-10-03T20:22:53  <ThomasWaldmann> it contains more than wanted
  55 2010-10-03T20:23:17  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. it'll find Category* in some comment lines below ----
  56 2010-10-03T20:24:03  <dreimark> can't we move them as comments to meta?
  57 2010-10-03T20:24:15  <dreimark> a disabled category for example
  58 2010-10-03T20:25:39  <dreimark> in 2.0 it would not make sense to have commented categories in the body
  59 2010-10-03T20:26:25  <ThomasWaldmann> if we (re)move something, we have to identify it with rather good matching
  60 2010-10-03T20:26:50  *** RogerHaase has joined #moin-dev
  61 2010-10-03T20:27:05  <ThomasWaldmann> if we can't do that, we maybe must leave it where it is and just copy categories to the tags, but leave content to be manually edited
  62 2010-10-03T20:29:24  <dreimark> right
  63 2010-10-03T20:30:31  <dreimark> btw. can we have comments in meta or commented off something?
  64 2010-10-03T20:31:57  <dreimark> or inactive meta data
  65 2010-10-03T20:33:57  <ThomasWaldmann> if we move wrong stuff to comments in meta, that might be confusing
  66 2010-10-03T20:34:12  <ThomasWaldmann> and exact location in content will be lost
  67 2010-10-03T20:34:25  <ThomasWaldmann> most users will think something got deleted
  68 2010-10-03T20:34:43  *** RogerHaase has quit IRC
  69 2010-10-03T20:35:00  <ThomasWaldmann> therefore, we first have to solve "how do we determine what exactly we want to (re)move"
  70 2010-10-03T20:35:12  *** RogerHaase has joined #moin-dev
  71 2010-10-03T20:35:22  <dreimark> i know, i just asking about a change in the workflow. in 1.x one could temporary remove some functionality by commenting off
  72 2010-10-03T20:35:52  <dreimark> if we have it in meta, we currently can only remove and add again
  73 2010-10-03T20:36:10  <ThomasWaldmann> the moin2 parser might do that (or not), not sure
  74 2010-10-03T20:36:20  <ThomasWaldmann> but that's a different problem
  75 2010-10-03T20:37:34  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/Ie9BetaFailsOnDoubleClick does somehow sound like a bug in IE9, right?
  76 2010-10-03T20:37:58  <ThomasWaldmann> these days, we usually have either \n or \r\n, but not \r alone
  77 2010-10-03T20:38:24  <RogerHaase> Yes, I would not apply it.  I did it just in case someone wanted it.
  78 2010-10-03T20:38:47  <RogerHaase> IE9 beta1 is too buggy to use, I removed it after 2 days.
  79 2010-10-03T20:39:20  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I'll add your comments there :)
  80 2010-10-03T21:00:35  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: http://bitbucket.org/RogerHaase/moin-2.0-dev/changeset/131ce5dfe6cb#chg-MoinMoin/converter/moinwiki_in.py_newline467
  81 2010-10-03T21:00:51  <ThomasWaldmann> that looks slightly inconsistent with the stuff above
  82 2010-10-03T21:01:07  <ThomasWaldmann> str vs. unicode, blank vs. no blank
  83 2010-10-03T21:02:09  <ThomasWaldmann> see also moinwiki_out
  84 2010-10-03T21:03:10  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, looks like you killed that again in next cs
  85 2010-10-03T21:05:15  <RogerHaase> Yes, I didn't think the text indent was related until I went looking for the problem.  Kind of sloppy to not back it out and redo it, but my hg skills are still lacking.
  86 2010-10-03T21:06:26  <RogerHaase> But on the bright side, using bitbucket showed that some of my other problems were due to hg bugs.
  87 2010-10-03T21:06:45  <ThomasWaldmann> as long as the changeset is not public and you need to undo only one cs, you can use hg rollback
  88 2010-10-03T21:07:40  <ThomasWaldmann> but once it is published, avoid rollback
  89 2010-10-03T21:09:18  <RogerHaase> Yes, I thought I was done for the day and pushed the bulletless list changeset and then discovered the problem later that evening when I worked another hour.
  90 2010-10-03T21:12:22  <RogerHaase> Q: To pull your changes from your BB repo into mine is to set up a local clone of yours, pull, and then push back into my repo?
  91 2010-10-03T21:13:29  <ThomasWaldmann> you can pull any other repo's change into your repo directly
  92 2010-10-03T21:13:36  <ThomasWaldmann> hg pull -u url
  93 2010-10-03T21:13:55  <ThomasWaldmann> (i mean in your local repo)
  94 2010-10-03T21:15:18  <RogerHaase> Ah, OK, I will give that a try later.
  95 2010-10-03T21:21:22  <CIA-36> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 10061:7181c5826747 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/screen.css: minor changes to footer credits and timings; eliminated inner li wrapping, smaller font, wider spacing
  96 2010-10-03T21:21:23  <CIA-36> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 10062:131ce5dfe6cb 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 2 dirs): added support for bulletless lists
  97 2010-10-03T21:21:23  <CIA-36> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 10063:8e6945c85695 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/converter/ (moinwiki_in.py moinwiki_out.py): remove unwanted bullets from blockquotes and indented text; revise fix for bulletless lists
  98 2010-10-03T21:21:23  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10064:9a14888d7ded 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 2 dirs): merged RogerHaase's repo
  99 2010-10-03T22:02:40  *** RogerHaase has quit IRC
 100 2010-10-03T22:03:06  *** RogerHaase has joined #moin-dev
 101 2010-10-03T22:29:32  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5716:5b262b81c236 1.9/ (wiki/server/wikiserverconfig.py wikiserverconfig.py): updated wikiserverconfig.py from internal defaults, sync the one in toplevel dir and the one in wiki/server/ - fixes hostname setting
 102 2010-10-03T23:07:47  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5717:715479a7d692 1.9/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py: fix timestamp in edit lock message to show the time when edit-locking ends
 103 2010-10-03T23:16:38  <dreimark> re