MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-08-30

   1 2010-08-30T00:04:13  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9788:13f69c20c1b6 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py logfile/editlog.py wikiutil.py): wikiutil.get_hostname/set_edit_lock - remove unneeded request param
   2 2010-08-30T00:49:29  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9789:d60a69a304d7 2.0-dev/docs/ (INSTALL.html README.migration README_FIRST UPDATE.html): removed outdated docs
   3 2010-08-30T01:21:18  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9790:127ef50c4211 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: init_(un)protected_backends - do not access flaskg there
   4 2010-08-30T01:32:56  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9791:56db923eb133 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fix backends init related imports
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   9 2010-08-30T09:47:56  <dreimark> moin
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  12 2010-08-30T12:04:59  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: i got a job in paris atm, no time at all
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  15 2010-08-30T12:44:24  <dreimark> dennda: congratulation :)
  16 2010-08-30T12:54:10  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  17 2010-08-30T12:54:13  <ThomasWaldmann> Requests per second:    261.91 [#/sec] (mean)
  18 2010-08-30T12:54:35  <ThomasWaldmann> that's from localhost:8080/ :)
  19 2010-08-30T12:55:56  <ThomasWaldmann> (which does nothing than a http redirect to front page)
  20 2010-08-30T12:58:12  <ThomasWaldmann> Requests per second:    25.18 [#/sec] (mean)
  21 2010-08-30T12:58:41  <ThomasWaldmann> this is a non-existing item (= theme rendering + minimal content rendering)
  22 2010-08-30T13:04:43  <TheSheep> looks about normal
  23 2010-08-30T13:06:30  <ThomasWaldmann> Requests per second:    9.50 [#/sec] (mean)
  24 2010-08-30T13:06:40  <TheSheep> that's bad
  25 2010-08-30T13:06:43  <ThomasWaldmann> that's from 1.9, non-existing page
  26 2010-08-30T13:07:55  * ThomasWaldmann has moved storage init to app init (from request init)
  27 2010-08-30T13:11:41  <TheSheep> makes sense
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  29 2010-08-30T13:22:10  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: do you think we still need this umask hack?
  30 2010-08-30T13:22:57  <ThomasWaldmann> moin sets os.umask on every request and there is a comment that some server had reset the umask before each request
  31 2010-08-30T13:28:08  <dreimark> for wsgi access it should not be neccessary.
  32 2010-08-30T13:33:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
  33 2010-08-30T13:33:41  * ThomasWaldmann thinks rather it should not be necessary, but reality might differ
  34 2010-08-30T13:50:58  <dreimark> if you use wsgi you access it by the user. I think the umask is only needed if you need group rights
  35 2010-08-30T14:04:46  <ThomasWaldmann> setting os.umask is needed if you can't set it up otherwise so it is what you want it to be
  36 2010-08-30T14:18:40  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9792:666b22e57094 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py storage/backends/acl.py storage/backends/fs2.py): (log message trimmed)
  37 2010-08-30T14:18:40  <CIA-36> move storage init to app init, details below
  38 2010-08-30T14:18:40  <CIA-36> initializing storage once in application init is much faster than initializing
  39 2010-08-30T14:18:40  <CIA-36> it per request.
  40 2010-08-30T14:18:40  <CIA-36> give cfg to acl mw so it does not need to access app.cfg (current_app is not
  41 2010-08-30T14:18:41  <CIA-36> available at that time).
  42 2010-08-30T14:18:42  <CIA-36> fs2 backend: use a constant for the hash algorith so it does not need to
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  44 2010-08-30T15:18:40  <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.moinmo.in%3A8080%2FMoinMoin2;accept=text%2Fhtml%2Capplication%2Fxhtml%2Bxml%2Capplication%2Fxml%3Bq%3D0.9%2C*%2F*%3Bq%3D0.8;accept-language=en%2Cde%3Bq%3D0.5;accept-charset=ISO-8859-1%2Cutf-8%3Bq%3D0.7%2C*%3Bq%3D0.7
  45 2010-08-30T15:19:15  <ThomasWaldmann> or just click on "valid html5" in the footer of test.moinmo.in
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  47 2010-08-30T15:39:05  <ei-grad> > It works! (c) test.moinmo.in :-(
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  50 2010-08-30T15:54:58  <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: hm?
  51 2010-08-30T15:55:21  <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: port :8080
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  54 2010-08-30T16:29:07  <RogerHaase> Lost in Jinja2-land: How would a contributed theme override or extend layout.html?
  55 2010-08-30T16:36:08  <TheSheep> RogerHaase: that's something we still need to implement
  56 2010-08-30T16:39:14  <RogerHaase> TheSheep: Thanks.
  57 2010-08-30T16:40:03  <TheSheep> RogerHaase: we are open to suggestions if you have any ideas
  58 2010-08-30T16:40:22  <TheSheep> it's a good moment
  59 2010-08-30T16:43:49  <ThomasWaldmann> also, improving the current theme is appreciated (maybe even before creating additional ones)
  60 2010-08-30T16:53:31  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I am willing to help on moin2.  Have something easy with no deadlines?
  61 2010-08-30T16:57:39  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9793:1a4beddc866f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): new change password view, flatland based
  62 2010-08-30T16:58:04  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: if you could work on the css, that'ld be great
  63 2010-08-30T17:01:15  <ThomasWaldmann> if you prefer python coding, just tell, there is also lots to do
  64 2010-08-30T17:07:04  <RogerHaase> Ok, will look at CSS.  If there is an isolated macro like RecentChanges, etc. that could be written now, that would be good.
  65 2010-08-30T17:08:01  <RogerHaase> Do you have an idea on how CSS should be improved/organized/obsolete stuff discovered and removed?
  66 2010-08-30T17:09:52  <ThomasWaldmann> well, you could start throwing away everything and readding what's missing then :D
  67 2010-08-30T17:11:04  * ThomasWaldmann is no expert on css, but has the feeling that a rewrite could improve it significantly
  68 2010-08-30T17:12:00  <ThomasWaldmann> and e.g. RecentChanges won't be a macro any more
  69 2010-08-30T17:14:04  <ThomasWaldmann> (in general, macros were overused in moin1 - we often needed to have a page (maybe even plus translations) just for putting a macro on it)
  70 2010-08-30T17:16:43  <RogerHaase> Let me take a day or two to consider the blank slate approach to CSS.
  71 2010-08-30T17:18:22  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe some people who are very good with css could define some goals for it
  72 2010-08-30T17:19:14  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: on diofeher's summer of code page there is some stuff he didn't manage to complete (yet?)
  73 2010-08-30T17:23:27  <RogerHaase> Found the answer to original question on his todo:  overriding / slightly modifying a template
  74 2010-08-30T17:24:53  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the new mediawiki theme looks like we could take some inspiration from it
  75 2010-08-30T17:37:18  <RogerHaase> Are you wanting to change the look of the modernized theme or clean the CSS so it is easier to create alternative themes while keeping the same look for modernized?
  76 2010-08-30T17:37:34  <TheSheep> RogerHaase: both
  77 2010-08-30T17:37:51  <TheSheep> RogerHaase: maybe starting with the latter, so that the former is easier
  78 2010-08-30T17:39:26  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9794:68c45415157b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): implement usersettings view
  79 2010-08-30T17:41:09  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9795:5c8943a0ad7a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/action/userprefs.py: remove userprefs action
  80 2010-08-30T17:50:10  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9796:c1d03ab06c7a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: remove some unused 'title' template params
  81 2010-08-30T17:56:40  <RogerHaase> Armin Ronacher is a busy guy:  http://sandbox.pocoo.org/clevercss/
  82 2010-08-30T18:17:58  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9797:90f9c03927c0 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/ (login.html register.html): remove unneeded do=... hidden form fields
  83 2010-08-30T18:37:13  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9798:7d3ece9d9ec0 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: check for MoinAuth: reduce code duplication
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  91 2010-08-30T22:09:50  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9799:e610af9a6dca 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): implement lost password recovery, remove old code
  92 2010-08-30T22:09:53  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9800:cff260781c57 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/ (lostpass.html recoverpass.html): add lostpass/recoverpass templates
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  94 2010-08-30T23:19:21  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9801:dc5a6b5959b0 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/config/default.py: remove some spellcheck related stuff from config (not used any more)
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