1 2010-05-28T00:01:59 <CIA-47> Diogenes Augusto <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 8225:e67eaffec0df 2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/MoinMoin/ (templates/header.html theme/__init__.py theme/modernized.py): now we have a jinjaTheme class that inherits ThemeBase
2 2010-05-28T00:02:09 <CIA-47> Diogenes Augusto <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 8226:13842149a954 2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/MoinMoin/ (search/__init__.py templates/header.html): converted trail and title functions into jinja2
3 2010-05-28T00:02:15 <valeuf> good night ^ ^
4 2010-05-28T00:02:34 <xorAxAx> gn valeuf
5 2010-05-28T00:09:18 <CIA-47> Diogenes Augusto <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 8227:a5723dee88c0 2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/MoinMoin/theme/jinja.py: forget to add jinja class
6 2010-05-28T00:13:49 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: title() -> kill the backlink magic
7 2010-05-28T00:16:52 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: didn't understood
8 2010-05-28T00:17:07 <ThomasWaldmann> (this can be replaced by an action menu item: less magic, better visible, less special cases)
9 2010-05-28T00:17:36 <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/rev/a5723dee88c0#l1.82 + following few lines
10 2010-05-28T00:17:51 <ThomasWaldmann> that does a linkto: search for the page title
11 2010-05-28T00:18:10 <diofeher> hmmm
12 2010-05-28T00:18:13 <ThomasWaldmann> just do a link to current page instead
13 2010-05-28T00:19:16 <diofeher> and move this magic to action menu item?
14 2010-05-28T00:19:21 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
15 2010-05-28T00:19:43 <diofeher> ok
16 2010-05-28T00:20:22 <ThomasWaldmann> doing a backlinks search by clicking title is kind of wiki heritage
17 2010-05-28T00:20:38 <ThomasWaldmann> but the problem is new users don't get it
18 2010-05-28T00:21:39 <diofeher> get it :)
19 2010-05-28T00:21:43 <ThomasWaldmann> and it creates special cases at 2 places when doing it that way
20 2010-05-28T00:21:50 <diofeher> just to you know, MoinSearch is broken
21 2010-05-28T00:22:02 <ThomasWaldmann> a) in title() for creating the search link
22 2010-05-28T00:22:50 <ThomasWaldmann> b) in navibar, for adding an entry that links to current page (one needs it if one is on a action different from show action and wants to return to normal page view)
23 2010-05-28T00:23:07 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that's known, ignore it
24 2010-05-28T00:24:17 <diofeher> hmm
25 2010-05-28T00:24:51 <ThomasWaldmann> so, an action menu entry "What links here?" is easier in the end.
26 2010-05-28T00:25:08 <diofeher> makes sense
27 2010-05-28T00:25:17 <diofeher> i'm gonna put this in my TODO list :)
28 2010-05-28T00:27:45 <ThomasWaldmann> also, before doing too much changes in the way you do now, find out how to build links from the template
29 2010-05-28T00:28:34 <ThomasWaldmann> so that you just give the page name to the template, and the template computes the link to the page
30 2010-05-28T00:31:05 <ThomasWaldmann> (or a tuple (pagename, linktext))
31 2010-05-28T00:33:04 <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/rev/a5723dee88c0#l1.293
32 2010-05-28T00:33:33 <ThomasWaldmann> that is the b) special case you won't need any more then
33 2010-05-28T00:34:53 <diofeher> oh ok
34 2010-05-28T00:35:14 <diofeher> so, remove this special case 2, fix the actual title method, and create a new action title :)
35 2010-05-28T00:39:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
36 2010-05-28T00:40:23 <diofeher> sorry to always do these lists... i do this just to remember, i'm kind forgetful
37 2010-05-28T00:40:24 <ThomasWaldmann> also, later (when it comes to style stuff), we need to modify the title display so that users aren't confusing it with document title
38 2010-05-28T00:40:47 <ThomasWaldmann> (maybe it should also get renamed in the code)
39 2010-05-28T00:41:16 <ThomasWaldmann> that thing is just navigation, document name, document location
40 2010-05-28T00:41:36 <diofeher> okay, later we talk about them :D
41 2010-05-28T00:41:45 <diofeher> so, i have some news about new design
42 2010-05-28T00:41:55 <ThomasWaldmann> if one wants to have some nice "title" above the document, one uses = what ever =
43 2010-05-28T00:42:10 <diofeher> i've contacted a friend of mine, he's a great designer
44 2010-05-28T00:42:46 <ThomasWaldmann> http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/
45 2010-05-28T00:42:54 <diofeher> and he will makes the new design :) it's just trade-off
46 2010-05-28T00:42:59 <diofeher> www.diegonaive.com
47 2010-05-28T00:43:11 <diofeher> Radomir gonna do the new design?
48 2010-05-28T00:43:40 <ThomasWaldmann> i just wanted to point out qualification of your mentor :)
49 2010-05-28T00:43:50 <diofeher> hehe, I saw his wiki
50 2010-05-28T00:44:04 <ThomasWaldmann> and, mind it is YOUR project, not radomirs and not your friend's
51 2010-05-28T00:44:12 <diofeher> it's fantastic, designs made by him
52 2010-05-28T00:44:16 <diofeher> i know
53 2010-05-28T00:44:30 <diofeher> but i'm not good designer :/
54 2010-05-28T00:45:00 * ThomasWaldmann neither
55 2010-05-28T00:45:06 <diofeher> only site that i've drawed was mine
56 2010-05-28T00:45:08 <diofeher> www.diofeher.net
57 2010-05-28T00:45:24 <diofeher> and some from university projects
58 2010-05-28T00:45:33 <ThomasWaldmann> I always try to choose really sucking colours in the hope that someone jumps on it and improves them. :D
59 2010-05-28T00:45:45 <diofeher> hehehe
60 2010-05-28T00:46:42 <diofeher> i only likes to do html and css
61 2010-05-28T00:47:24 <ThomasWaldmann> css hates me
62 2010-05-28T00:48:03 <ThomasWaldmann> I sometimes think "oh this should be easy to do with css" but some hours later I usually think "someone better with css should do that"
63 2010-05-28T00:48:55 <diofeher> uauahauha
64 2010-05-28T00:49:08 <diofeher> sometimes it's complicate
65 2010-05-28T00:50:03 <ThomasWaldmann> a nice property for a theme would be that it is easily hackable
66 2010-05-28T00:50:35 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. if you want to move the search box from here to there, that it just works without mixing up the rest
67 2010-05-28T00:51:54 <diofeher> yes, i was thinking about this
68 2010-05-28T00:52:22 <diofeher> in early versions, it's too complicated too an user modify an html from moinmoin
69 2010-05-28T00:52:37 <diofeher> only css
70 2010-05-28T00:53:08 <diofeher> i think it's scary try to modify html inside themebase
71 2010-05-28T00:54:04 <CIA-47> Diogenes Augusto <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 8228:8ac9c4dfda69 2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/ (MoinMoin/templates/header.html docs/2.0-JINJA2-TODO): changing position of title in html and modifying TODO
72 2010-05-28T00:55:08 <diofeher> well, i'm leaving now... gonna work out a little
73 2010-05-28T00:55:20 <diofeher> good night
74 2010-05-28T00:56:47 <ThomasWaldmann> gn
75 2010-05-28T02:49:35 *** DmitryAndreev_
76 2010-05-28T02:53:48 *** DmitryAndreev
77 2010-05-28T04:12:11 <diofeher> hey ThomasWaldmann i'm looking logs of this channel now
78 2010-05-28T04:12:55 <diofeher> i see you told me to fill the form... it told to my psyBNC... and it's not showing mentions in channel, only private logs i think
79 2010-05-28T04:13:15 <diofeher> i'm gonna try to fix it, if it's broken
80 2010-05-28T07:41:15 *** Faxe
81 2010-05-28T07:41:19 <Faxe> Moin
82 2010-05-28T08:04:57 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: well, stuff that could've been done in community bonding phase
83 2010-05-28T08:05:02 <ThomasWaldmann> and moin
84 2010-05-28T08:06:43 <dreimark> moin
85 2010-05-28T08:06:46 *** DmitryAndreev_
86 2010-05-28T08:24:46 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/203afc609f8a/MoinMoin/action/cache.py#l54
87 2010-05-28T08:25:14 <dreimark> I need to add a new keyword for setting max_staleness
88 2010-05-28T08:25:37 <dreimark> otherwise Image can't change the lifetime of a sendcache file
89 2010-05-28T08:26:11 <dreimark> in my use case every hour a user is able to recreate all sendcache files
90 2010-05-28T08:26:50 <dreimark> Also Image will need a paramter to overwrite the default of max_staleness=3600
91 2010-05-28T08:30:16 <dreimark> the old cache files persists in that dir too
92 2010-05-28T08:31:47 <ThomasWaldmann> huh? please first show a patch. it doesn't seem that that param has anything to do with key().
93 2010-05-28T08:36:46 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/203afc609f8a/MoinMoin/action/cache.py#l94
94 2010-05-28T08:37:07 <dreimark> currently in key it calls fuid = filesys.fuid(AttachFile.getFilename(request, itemname, attachname))
95 2010-05-28T08:37:20 * dreimark does a patch later
96 2010-05-28T08:42:55 <ThomasWaldmann> and btw, as long as you don't run moin on windows, it shouldn't use that max_staleness param anyway
97 2010-05-28T08:43:53 <dreimark> it seem it does
98 2010-05-28T08:45:24 <dreimark> fiesys.fuid does not care on the OS
99 2010-05-28T08:46:44 * dreimark likes to do a patch for fuid
100 2010-05-28T08:52:04 <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/203afc609f8a/MoinMoin/util/filesys.py#l285
101 2010-05-28T08:52:19 <ThomasWaldmann> st_ino is the inode and usually non-zero on posix
102 2010-05-28T08:54:33 <ThomasWaldmann> all that stuff is to detect changes (with the staleness stuff being just a workaround for window's limitations)
103 2010-05-28T08:55:28 <ThomasWaldmann> so, don't patch what ain't broken
104 2010-05-28T09:11:01 <dreimark> then something else is broken
105 2010-05-28T09:13:17 <ThomasWaldmann> start with a clear problem description :)
106 2010-05-28T09:14:06 <dreimark> i have removed yesterday all sendcache cache files and recreated all again
107 2010-05-28T09:14:40 <ThomasWaldmann> they usually recreate themselves, right?
108 2010-05-28T09:14:54 <dreimark> why?
109 2010-05-28T09:15:11 <dreimark> they don't or they should if the inode changes
110 2010-05-28T09:15:14 <ThomasWaldmann> because you deleted them? :)
111 2010-05-28T09:15:55 <dreimark> yes, because i have 24098 image i recreate them once
112 2010-05-28T09:16:40 <dreimark> yes if i delete a cache file it becomes recreated
113 2010-05-28T09:16:51 <dreimark> but i want to ommit that cpu time
114 2010-05-28T09:17:14 <ThomasWaldmann> you can't
115 2010-05-28T09:17:26 <dreimark> why not
116 2010-05-28T09:17:47 <ThomasWaldmann> it either recreates the cache content when you run your "access all stuff to recreate cache" script
117 2010-05-28T09:18:01 <ThomasWaldmann> putting lots of load in a short time onto the cpu
118 2010-05-28T09:18:24 <ThomasWaldmann> or, it will just recreate them on the fly first time someone accesses the object
119 2010-05-28T09:18:43 <dreimark> yes, but currently it creates them again later
120 2010-05-28T09:18:47 <ThomasWaldmann> putting a little load on the cpu for a more longspread time
121 2010-05-28T09:20:04 <ThomasWaldmann> it creates cache again for an item that hasn't changed?
122 2010-05-28T09:20:06 <dreimark> i don't say anything against the different usecases of cpu
123 2010-05-28T09:20:39 <dreimark> i just don't want that it makes additional cache files while it has one for a file
124 2010-05-28T09:20:56 <dreimark> the number of cache files increases per access of an image on my system
125 2010-05-28T09:21:26 <ThomasWaldmann> find out why and how to reproduce
126 2010-05-28T09:21:31 <dreimark> yes
127 2010-05-28T09:21:44 *** DmitryAndreev_
128 2010-05-28T12:52:37 <TheSheep> would you guys be interested in doing some talk at this year's PyConPL ?
129 2010-05-28T12:55:22 * ThomasWaldmann doesn't even give one at europython
130 2010-05-28T12:56:02 <TheSheep> well, PyConPL has probably lower requirements :)
131 2010-05-28T13:30:54 <aa_> ThomasWaldmann: you should do a lightning talk on "Recent advances in moin" at least, most people don't know how quickly it is progressing
132 2010-05-28T13:32:29 <TheSheep> aa_: would *you* come? :)
133 2010-05-28T13:33:19 <aa_> TheSheep: to pyconPL? sorry my calendar is very full, I can only attend europy because it is in this country this year
134 2010-05-28T13:33:33 <TheSheep> aa_: I see, a shame
135 2010-05-28T13:54:23 <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: yes, some informal quick talk or "moin user meetup and ask everything" is rather likely
136 2010-05-28T13:54:50 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, and sprints for whoever wants to join
137 2010-05-28T14:11:33 <dreimark> we can do an openspace session and sprints
138 2010-05-28T14:12:11 <dreimark> TheSheep: when ?
139 2010-05-28T14:35:21 <TheSheep> dreimark: not sure exactly, in November in Zakopane
140 2010-05-28T15:04:09 <dreimark> good that it is not in october
141 2010-05-28T15:04:23 <dreimark> i tried page_header1 = u"<html><h1>Hallo</h1></html>"
142 2010-05-28T15:04:41 <dreimark> and page_footer1 = u"<html><h1>Hallo</h1></html>"
143 2010-05-28T15:04:53 <dreimark> the page_header1 is not shown
144 2010-05-28T15:04:59 <dreimark> is that a bug?
145 2010-05-28T15:17:37 <TheSheep> you can only have one html tag per document
146 2010-05-28T15:31:27 <dreimark> yes but it doesnt show <h1>Hallo</h1> too
147 2010-05-28T15:32:31 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/219294/
148 2010-05-28T15:43:36 <ThomasWaldmann> no <html> or </html>
149 2010-05-28T15:44:10 <dreimark> yes, but h1 should work or?
150 2010-05-28T15:44:17 <dreimark> page_header1 = u"<h1>Hallo</h1>"
151 2010-05-28T15:45:40 <ThomasWaldmann> just look at the output
152 2010-05-28T15:47:10 <dreimark> i did and i didn't find it in the page source
153 2010-05-28T15:47:50 <dreimark> ok - fixed
154 2010-05-28T15:48:18 <dreimark> fscking long wikiconfig_local sorry
155 2010-05-28T15:48:38 <dreimark> sorry
156 2010-05-28T15:56:44 *** SWAT
157 2010-05-28T15:56:48 *** SWAT
158 2010-05-28T17:00:00 *** DmitryAndreev_
159 2010-05-28T19:21:30 <ThomasWaldmann> re
160 2010-05-28T19:47:23 <dreimark> re
161 2010-05-28T19:49:42 <dreimark> diofeher: can you use on MM if possible half of your names. so that pagetitles become shorter. on my screen your pages are listed in two lines in RC always.
162 2010-05-28T19:50:04 <dreimark> (this is just a question)
163 2010-05-28T19:58:12 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
164 2010-05-28T19:58:22 <ThomasWaldmann> ENAMETOOLONG
165 2010-05-28T19:59:13 <ThomasWaldmann> http://asset.soup.io/asset/0844/3932_6286.jpeg lol, ENAMEHASNONASCII
166 2010-05-28T20:00:32 *** DmitryAndreev_
167 2010-05-28T20:00:50 *** DmitryAndreev_
168 2010-05-28T20:14:22 <CIA-47> Dmitry Andreev <klieg.polar@gmail.com> default * 8224:c4a840b01c1b 2.0-dev-wiki-rest-dandreev/MoinMoin/converter2/ (moinwiki_in.py moinwiki_out.py): DOM->Moinwiki: span node added, first test.
169 2010-05-28T21:21:36 <dreimark> where is the user_homewiki cached
170 2010-05-28T21:22:08 <dreimark> i have changed the var and now it each click cycles me through the old and new page
171 2010-05-28T21:22:51 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe some processes still have old config
172 2010-05-28T21:23:04 <dreimark> server was rebooted
173 2010-05-28T21:23:15 <dreimark> but ...
174 2010-05-28T21:24:54 <dreimark> good idea one instance has some different settings
175 2010-05-28T22:33:15 <diofeher> hello
176 2010-05-28T22:33:27 <diofeher> ok dreimark i'm gonna change my pages to DiogenesAugusto
177 2010-05-28T22:42:38 <dreimark> :)
178 2010-05-28T22:46:51 <diofeher> changed :)
179 2010-05-28T22:56:25 <TheSheep> diofeher: how is it going?
180 2010-05-28T22:56:54 * TheSheep just came from tedxpoznan
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