1 2010-05-03T00:05:03 *** valeuf
2 2010-05-03T01:29:00 *** diofeher
3 2010-05-03T01:29:10 <diofeher> good night :D
4 2010-05-03T01:41:13 <TheSheep> diofeher: when are you available? we need to find a time that's good for both of us
5 2010-05-03T01:42:07 <TheSheep> I'm awake from about 7 UTC to about 22 UTC, usually
6 2010-05-03T01:42:25 <diofeher> TheSheep: hey :)
7 2010-05-03T01:44:47 <diofeher> hmm, generally, i'm awake 10 UTC to about 5 UTC
8 2010-05-03T01:46:06 <TheSheep> but you do have school and such, right
9 2010-05-03T01:46:09 <TheSheep> ?
10 2010-05-03T01:46:16 <diofeher> yes
11 2010-05-03T01:47:22 <TheSheep> I guess we need an hour or half when we can talk (possibly longer at the beginning)
12 2010-05-03T01:47:37 <TheSheep> when would be a good time for you?
13 2010-05-03T01:48:06 <TheSheep> it doesn't have to be strictly every day
14 2010-05-03T01:48:08 <diofeher> I study in afternoon here, 16 UTC to 22 UTC
15 2010-05-03T01:48:33 <diofeher> TheSheep: mmm let me check our hours available
16 2010-05-03T01:49:14 <diofeher> I will be available all morning here (10UTC to 16 UTC)
17 2010-05-03T01:49:31 <diofeher> it would be a good time for you?
18 2010-05-03T01:49:49 <TheSheep> yes, that's great, I will reserve that time
19 2010-05-03T01:50:07 <TheSheep> sorry for that, but I have a hard time catching you :)
20 2010-05-03T01:50:07 <diofeher> ince
21 2010-05-03T01:50:27 <diofeher> hehe, it`s my fault, i was very busy last days
22 2010-05-03T01:50:40 <TheSheep> it's not a problem, I just feel guilty
23 2010-05-03T01:50:43 <diofeher> TheSheep: you will appear in my institute website
24 2010-05-03T01:50:51 <TheSheep> cool
25 2010-05-03T01:51:35 <TheSheep> you're becoming famous? :)
26 2010-05-03T01:52:12 <diofeher> hahaha no
27 2010-05-03T01:52:34 <diofeher> but me and my friend (chosed by bluez) give this interview and this kind of stuff
28 2010-05-03T01:52:42 <diofeher> and the guy shooted a photo from us
29 2010-05-03T01:52:45 <diofeher> only this
30 2010-05-03T01:52:47 <diofeher> :D
31 2010-05-03T01:54:30 <diofeher> hey guys, what are your opinion about "format" output of strings?
32 2010-05-03T01:54:49 <diofeher> i was reading pyton official tutorial, and I saw that will be replaced of old interpolators
33 2010-05-03T01:55:52 <TheSheep> I didn't like it initially, but I got used to it rather fast
34 2010-05-03T01:56:27 <TheSheep> it doesn't make that large a difference, except that % had unintuitive priority for what it was used for
35 2010-05-03T01:56:43 <TheSheep> with a function call it's harder to make a mistake
36 2010-05-03T01:57:35 <TheSheep> I have to go to sleep, see you in the morning
37 2010-05-03T02:14:18 <diofeher> TheSheep: goodbye
38 2010-05-03T02:24:02 <diofeher> one doubt, will i have to use format or % interpolator % to handle strings in my project?
39 2010-05-03T04:13:19 <diofeher> gn
40 2010-05-03T04:13:24 *** diofeher
41 2010-05-03T05:16:41 *** kursor
42 2010-05-03T05:39:04 *** DmitryAndreev__
43 2010-05-03T05:43:03 *** DmitryAndreev_
44 2010-05-03T07:12:58 *** kursor
45 2010-05-03T07:16:01 *** DmitryAndreev__
46 2010-05-03T07:27:49 *** ei-grad
47 2010-05-03T07:28:35 *** ei-grad
48 2010-05-03T08:22:35 *** gwork
49 2010-05-03T08:27:46 *** ei-grad
50 2010-05-03T09:01:30 <dreimark> moin
51 2010-05-03T10:06:26 <gwork> moin again :)
52 2010-05-03T10:09:01 *** valeuf
53 2010-05-03T10:22:50 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
54 2010-05-03T10:36:36 *** DmitryAndreev
55 2010-05-03T11:09:05 *** valeuf
56 2010-05-03T13:16:20 *** gwork
57 2010-05-03T14:11:17 *** AshishG
58 2010-05-03T14:25:28 * AshishG is here after quite some time
59 2010-05-03T14:30:04 <xorAxAx> hi AshishG
60 2010-05-03T15:05:04 <AshishG> hello
61 2010-05-03T15:05:05 <AshishG> how's it going?
62 2010-05-03T15:06:52 <xorAxAx> AshishG: quite fine, how about you?
63 2010-05-03T15:08:31 <AshishG> i am quite good actually
64 2010-05-03T15:08:45 <AshishG> just waiting for my exams to be over so i can start participating
65 2010-05-03T15:09:01 * AshishG just got out of a long and tiring exam 1.5 hours ago
66 2010-05-03T15:09:23 <xorAxAx> what was it about?
67 2010-05-03T15:14:05 <AshishG> operations research
68 2010-05-03T15:14:15 <AshishG> basically stats
69 2010-05-03T15:15:51 <xorAxAx> oh, how boring
70 2010-05-03T15:31:34 <AshishG> i know
71 2010-05-03T15:31:52 <AshishG> more than that it is basically cramming (route learning/memorization)
72 2010-05-03T15:33:41 <AshishG> the more formulas you remember the more you score, and they have relative grading here, so again even if you score good in absolute sense but relatively you might not be as good because you don't consider plugging in variable in memorized database of formulas eduction and you did not bother as much as others.
73 2010-05-03T15:34:12 <AshishG> but anyway case, you always have movies, cola and coding to get you back in form ;)
74 2010-05-03T15:34:35 * AshishG will be back in some time.
75 2010-05-03T15:40:38 *** xorAxAx
76 2010-05-03T15:58:27 *** xorAxAx
77 2010-05-03T15:58:27 *** xorAxAx
78 2010-05-03T16:57:24 *** ei-grad
79 2010-05-03T17:13:30 *** kursor
80 2010-05-03T17:42:58 <dreimark> waldi: do you have some example calls for emeraldtree or some docs. a basic usage as here http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm would be good
81 2010-05-03T17:58:03 <waldi> puh, not really
82 2010-05-03T18:00:02 <ThomasWaldmann> or maybe a "whatsdifferentfromelementtree.txt"
83 2010-05-03T18:07:04 *** ValentinJaniaut
84 2010-05-03T18:07:14 *** valeuf
85 2010-05-03T18:07:14 *** ValentinJaniaut
86 2010-05-03T18:07:49 <waldi> boah, this code needs cleanup
87 2010-05-03T18:21:55 <ThomasWaldmann> which? :)
88 2010-05-03T18:22:26 <waldi> emeraldtree, too much leftovers
89 2010-05-03T18:22:55 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe. don't break it. :)
90 2010-05-03T18:23:37 * ThomasWaldmann thought the same about parts of storage code.
91 2010-05-03T18:23:45 <waldi> i try
92 2010-05-03T18:24:09 <waldi> and at the same time fix the documentation
93 2010-05-03T18:48:35 <dreimark> waldi: thx
94 2010-05-03T18:49:02 *** kursor
95 2010-05-03T19:04:33 *** AshishG
96 2010-05-03T19:19:36 *** ei-grad
97 2010-05-03T20:49:56 <ThomasWaldmann> re
98 2010-05-03T20:51:15 * ThomasWaldmann wonders a bit about low student activity. are you busy otherwise?
99 2010-05-03T20:52:01 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: little bit busy with some projet at university
100 2010-05-03T20:52:04 <ThomasWaldmann> (if anyone has questions about where to start, just ask)
101 2010-05-03T20:53:08 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: but I will start to write some documentation this week, I thought that I would have time last week-end, but I spent all my saturday and a long part of my sunday on crazy bug with JNI :)
102 2010-05-03T20:53:20 <ThomasWaldmann> (esp. the students dealing with DOM stuff shouldn't waste time getting into it, so they can start coding when coding starts)
103 2010-05-03T20:54:21 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: yep, I am going to write a list of the DOM Tree element with some debug print in the code
104 2010-05-03T20:54:45 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: And I am also going to list the different HTML element with their DOM equivalent
105 2010-05-03T20:55:20 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I want to have a ducoment with all the equivalence for the conversion in an human-readable format, so it will be easier to start coding after :)
106 2010-05-03T20:55:49 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: maybe do that together with dmitry
107 2010-05-03T20:56:21 <ThomasWaldmann> saves both of you work and is maybe more fun :)
108 2010-05-03T20:56:35 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: dmitry ? Sorry, I do not always get the real name
109 2010-05-03T20:56:46 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: what is his nickname ?
110 2010-05-03T20:59:50 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess he used his name
111 2010-05-03T21:01:29 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: ah yes, the SoC student working on the other DOM Conversion
112 2010-05-03T21:02:48 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: sure, it would be nice to have this kind of document for all the conversion, so we can see to write a template together, and also see to have a look together with waldi about emeraldTree and other stuffs related to the DOM Tree
113 2010-05-03T21:04:50 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8207:6d549978b7a8 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (wsgiapp.py storage/backends/indexing.py): merged moin/2.0-storage
114 2010-05-03T21:05:32 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: also maybe try to improve the docs contained in the code, not just generate some stuff on the wiki
115 2010-05-03T21:06:10 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: yep, however, we maybe need to see to start to have our own repository ?
116 2010-05-03T21:06:36 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: or do you want we submit patches for documentation changes at this time ?
117 2010-05-03T21:13:19 <ThomasWaldmann> anything that works for you
118 2010-05-03T21:13:52 <ThomasWaldmann> currently, there are no student public repos on our server, but you can make your own repo by cloning the moin/2.0-dev repo
119 2010-05-03T21:14:18 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: this good solution I thin
120 2010-05-03T21:14:21 <valeuf> *think
121 2010-05-03T21:14:26 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: btw, i have renamed moin/2.0-storage-dom-bblank to moin/2.0-dev
122 2010-05-03T21:14:36 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: ok
123 2010-05-03T21:14:54 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: but just having a symlink for the old name doesn't work
124 2010-05-03T21:16:12 <ThomasWaldmann> (i didn't use just moin/2.0 now, so we have that name still free for later, in case we do some repo cleanup)
125 2010-05-03T21:22:24 <waldi> valeuf: i think the best documentation is currently the html converter
126 2010-05-03T21:22:32 <valeuf> waldi: great :)
127 2010-05-03T21:27:45 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: okay
128 2010-05-03T21:28:16 <waldi> dreimark: well, i try to make the interface more like the built-in types
129 2010-05-03T21:29:18 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 7476:66e73edc9fa0 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/support/sqlalchemy/databases/postgresql.py: add missing file of sqlalchemy 0.5.8
130 2010-05-03T21:30:49 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8209:4059768a0189 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/support/sqlalchemy/databases/postgresql.py: merged moin/2.0-storage
131 2010-05-03T21:32:42 <ThomasWaldmann> aa_ dreimark TheSheep valeuf waldi xorAxAx - please note that moin/2.0-dev is now considered the main 2.0 repository
132 2010-05-03T21:33:58 <ThomasWaldmann> (previously that repo was known as moin/2.0-storage-dom-bblank and should have all stuff from 2.0-storage as that was regularly merged into it)
133 2010-05-03T21:34:14 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: roger
134 2010-05-03T21:35:11 <ThomasWaldmann> (one repo less having to get merged regularly)
135 2010-05-03T22:29:24 *** ValentinJaniaut
136 2010-05-03T22:31:10 *** valeuf
137 2010-05-03T22:31:10 *** ValentinJaniaut
138 2010-05-03T22:31:13 <dreimark> re
139 2010-05-03T22:34:26 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: great
140 2010-05-03T22:35:35 * dreimark clones
141 2010-05-03T22:57:25 *** diofeher
142 2010-05-03T23:23:47 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: how's templating going? :)
143 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5663:87dae5077cae 1.9/MoinMoin/web/ (contexts.py request.py): (log message trimmed)
144 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> make moin compatible to werkzeug 0.5 .. 0.6.2 (details below)
145 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> The previous approach we had to avoid trouble because of mixing Request
146 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> and Response was causing issues with xmlrpc and werkzeug 0.6.x.
147 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> See: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.9.2XMLRPCContext_object_has_no_attribute_in-data
148 2010-05-03T23:48:49 <CIA-55> We inherit .stream now from Request base class and use a modified Response
149 2010-05-03T23:48:50 <CIA-55> base class that has .out_stream (instead of .stream, which would collide).
