1 2010-03-28T01:19:26 *** grzywacz
2 2010-03-28T04:34:04 *** valeuf_
3 2010-03-28T04:34:04 *** valeuf
4 2010-03-28T04:34:05 *** valeuf_
5 2010-03-28T09:24:28 <dreimark> moin
6 2010-03-28T09:25:14 <dreimark> i believe TakeoKatsuki can do the requiered test. do we have a testwiki?
7 2010-03-28T12:13:27 *** valeuf
8 2010-03-28T12:17:29 *** valeuf
9 2010-03-28T12:26:46 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
10 2010-03-28T12:59:22 *** grzywacz
11 2010-03-28T13:35:39 *** valeuf
12 2010-03-28T13:37:39 *** valeuf
13 2010-03-28T14:18:20 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I tested quickly the feature on MacOs 10.5 since I saw on the wiki nobody did it
14 2010-03-28T14:18:24 <valeuf> here is the result
15 2010-03-28T14:18:31 <valeuf> (I will also put on the wiki)
16 2010-03-28T14:18:57 <valeuf> Firefox 3.6.2 : Working correclty
17 2010-03-28T14:21:08 <ThomasWaldmann> the doubleclickeditingjumpingtocorrectline?
18 2010-03-28T14:21:22 <valeuf> Safari 4.04 : Working correctly
19 2010-03-28T14:21:29 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: yep
20 2010-03-28T14:25:07 <ThomasWaldmann> do you have some old browser?
21 2010-03-28T14:25:14 <valeuf> hum not specially
22 2010-03-28T14:25:20 <valeuf> but I can try to find some
23 2010-03-28T14:56:03 *** grzywacz
24 2010-03-28T14:56:27 *** grzywacz
25 2010-03-28T15:13:16 <ThomasWaldmann> how many seconds does a local wiki's RecentChanges for a few days of a test wiki takes for you? with wikiserver.py?
26 2010-03-28T15:14:17 *** valeuf
27 2010-03-28T15:15:04 *** valeuf
28 2010-03-28T15:16:59 <ThomasWaldmann> # Page.execute = 14.626s
29 2010-03-28T15:17:01 <ThomasWaldmann> # getACL = 13.130s
30 2010-03-28T15:17:05 <ThomasWaldmann> wtf?
31 2010-03-28T16:00:27 *** DmitryAndreev
32 2010-03-28T16:11:10 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, reason is that while RecentChanges looks harmless, it has 6 nuked pages with a total of > 3000 editlog entries
33 2010-03-28T16:12:01 <ThomasWaldmann> and processing 3000 editlog entries takes time...
34 2010-03-28T16:16:58 <DmitryAndreev> hello, i've read all docs and discussions adout dom and x(h)ml|html problems i've found in wiki, i started looking at code in /moin-2.0-storage-dom-bblank , and told with esyr yestarday. I think, that it wouldn't be a problem for me to create convertors. But i don't know what to do next to become your GSoC student) eSyr is offline now
35 2010-03-28T16:24:48 <ThomasWaldmann> well, you have to write an application
36 2010-03-28T16:25:02 <ThomasWaldmann> see the template
37 2010-03-28T16:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> also, it would be good if you communicate a bit more here
38 2010-03-28T16:27:04 <ThomasWaldmann> also please do some time planning after you are somewhat familiar with that code
39 2010-03-28T16:28:30 <ThomasWaldmann> so that the total scale of the project (subprojects) you apply for is adequate for the duration of SOC
40 2010-03-28T16:29:52 <ThomasWaldmann> starting tomorrow (see the timeline in GSOC FAQ), you can submit that application via the gsoc webapp
41 2010-03-28T16:31:09 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe do not submit the application too early (it should have reasonable content :),
42 2010-03-28T16:32:03 <ThomasWaldmann> but do not submit it too late either (because then there would not be enough time to discuss and modify it before the deadline comes)
43 2010-03-28T16:33:11 <DmitryAndreev> thx
44 2010-03-28T16:34:43 <ThomasWaldmann> and talk primarily to waldi about dom stuff, he's most familiar with it
45 2010-03-28T16:35:08 <ThomasWaldmann> basic questions might also get answered by other mentors, so just ask here
46 2010-03-28T16:48:43 <ThomasWaldmann> DmitryAndreev: btw, if multiple stuff is doable for you, you might want to discuss about priorities for MoinMoin
47 2010-03-28T16:48:57 <ThomasWaldmann> some stuff might be more important and needed than other stuff
48 2010-03-28T16:57:00 <DmitryAndreev> i have a problem to say what i think, because of bad english. I've read about moin2 plans http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 and also found some dom <->convertors request in your GSoC ideas. I think, it may be important to start from there. I'm i right?
49 2010-03-28T16:59:13 <ThomasWaldmann> well, about your english: just try :)
50 2010-03-28T16:59:35 <ThomasWaldmann> you'll have to write code and comments in english, too
51 2010-03-28T16:59:51 <ThomasWaldmann> most of us are not native english speakers, btw
52 2010-03-28T16:59:57 <DmitryAndreev> i don't have experience in sql performanse problematic, so i don't think i can help with "Improve storage indexing/search"
53 2010-03-28T17:00:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, makes sense.
54 2010-03-28T17:00:49 <ThomasWaldmann> but the dom stuff also has different ideas
55 2010-03-28T17:04:42 <DmitryAndreev> can i read some more about this ideas?) i've read about "what for" and "what problems with html, when we want x(h)ml" in wiki, that ansers many my questions
56 2010-03-28T17:05:19 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess best is to read and understand the code
57 2010-03-28T17:05:38 <ThomasWaldmann> docs (if any) always lag a bit behind
58 2010-03-28T17:06:01 <ThomasWaldmann> also it is sometimes a bit hard to see what's just an idea and what already works
59 2010-03-28T17:06:57 <DmitryAndreev> i've already started to read code from moin-2.0-storage-dom-bblan and found there many def f(): return "" ))
60 2010-03-28T17:07:52 <DmitryAndreev> and many TODO. So, yes, as "sometimes a bit hard to see what's just an idea and what already works"
61 2010-03-28T17:07:56 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/2.0DomBugs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=BastianBlank&titlesearch=Titel
62 2010-03-28T17:08:05 *** AshishG
63 2010-03-28T17:08:14 <ThomasWaldmann> those pages might have some interesting bits, if you didn't find them already
64 2010-03-28T17:09:01 <ThomasWaldmann> DmitryAndreev: yeah :) in general, for working on moin2, one has to be a bit fault-tolerant :D
65 2010-03-28T17:18:02 <DmitryAndreev> thx, this pages contains information about dom tree that i looking for
66 2010-03-28T18:00:00 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: is there any centralized documentation for Moin code ?
67 2010-03-28T18:00:11 <valeuf> I could not find, but maybe I just missed it !
68 2010-03-28T18:00:17 <ThomasWaldmann> code and docs.moinmo.in
69 2010-03-28T18:00:49 <ThomasWaldmann> the latter is generated from the code
70 2010-03-28T18:01:18 <ThomasWaldmann> no 2.0 stuff there yet, though
71 2010-03-28T18:01:31 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: thanks ^ ^
72 2010-03-28T18:05:36 <dreimark> moin
73 2010-03-28T18:06:02 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: for me it is total = 1.783s
74 2010-03-28T18:06:07 <dreimark> # Page.execute = 1.444s
75 2010-03-28T18:06:08 <dreimark> # getACL = 0.559s
76 2010-03-28T18:07:24 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, found the reason, see above
77 2010-03-28T18:07:36 <ThomasWaldmann> RC looked rather harmless at first glance
78 2010-03-28T18:08:08 <ThomasWaldmann> but 6 of the 10 entries there had [1..500] edits cumulated
79 2010-03-28T18:10:43 <dreimark> seen, i started replying before reading everything and some other stats values in the logs aren't bad
80 2010-03-28T18:14:05 * AshishG is going off for exam preps
81 2010-03-28T18:14:08 <AshishG> bbye moin-dev
82 2010-03-28T18:14:48 * dreimark is here but i prepare a talk for tuesday.
83 2010-03-28T18:15:56 * AshishG can't wait untill tuesday for his always-on connection
84 2010-03-28T18:16:55 *** AshishG
85 2010-03-28T18:18:47 <ThomasWaldmann> hah
86 2010-03-28T18:41:03 *** mrht
87 2010-03-28T18:41:03 *** dreimark
88 2010-03-28T18:41:03 *** waldi
89 2010-03-28T18:41:04 *** CIA-55
90 2010-03-28T18:41:05 *** vpv
91 2010-03-28T18:45:00 *** vpv_
92 2010-03-28T18:45:00 *** mrht
93 2010-03-28T18:45:00 *** CIA-55
94 2010-03-28T18:45:00 *** dreimark
95 2010-03-28T18:45:00 *** waldi
96 2010-03-28T18:55:03 *** DmitryAndreev
97 2010-03-28T18:55:04 *** ronny
98 2010-03-28T18:55:04 *** xjjk
99 2010-03-28T18:55:18 *** DmitryAndreev_
100 2010-03-28T18:55:43 *** not-xjjk
101 2010-03-28T18:55:44 *** ronny_
102 2010-03-28T18:55:44 *** franklin_
103 2010-03-28T18:55:47 *** ronny_
104 2010-03-28T18:55:47 *** ronny_
105 2010-03-28T18:59:15 *** franklin
106 2010-03-28T19:00:54 *** ronny_
107 2010-03-28T19:00:55 *** xorAxAx
108 2010-03-28T19:01:32 *** vpv_
109 2010-03-28T19:01:32 *** vpv_
110 2010-03-28T19:09:12 *** ronny_
111 2010-03-28T19:09:12 *** xorAxAx
112 2010-03-28T19:23:47 *** moinBot
113 2010-03-28T19:25:39 *** moinBot`
114 2010-03-28T19:30:53 *** xjjk
115 2010-03-28T19:30:53 *** not-xjjk
116 2010-03-28T19:57:17 * ThomasWaldmann installs IE9 preview
117 2010-03-28T20:07:12 <ThomasWaldmann> svg-edit 2.4 does not work
118 2010-03-28T20:09:52 <dreimark> fsck
119 2010-03-28T20:43:32 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann:
120 2010-03-28T20:43:46 <valeuf> IE9 was not supposed to support more standard ?? ;-)
121 2010-03-28T20:46:41 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it's a preview, but at least the svg demos from MS looked promising
122 2010-03-28T20:47:12 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: Yep, I really hope that SVG can replace flash animation !
123 2010-03-28T20:47:58 <valeuf> if IE9 respect well SVG we can expect so
124 2010-03-28T20:58:03 <dreimark> slideshow line numbers of a highlight python src has ___1 instead of 1 only
125 2010-03-28T21:52:04 <valeuf> waldi: is there any formal description of the tree used to store internally data for moin2
126 2010-03-28T21:52:14 <valeuf> waldi: I could only find this kind of page : http://moinmo.in/BastianBlank/TreeOutputFormatter/Spec/Formal
127 2010-03-28T21:52:30 <valeuf> waldi: but I am not sure it is stlll up-to-date
128 2010-03-28T22:14:15 <waldi> it is not uptodate
129 2010-03-28T22:25:28 <valeuf> waldi: is there any formal description up-to-date somewhere ? I could not find one !
130 2010-03-28T22:55:08 *** valeuf
131 2010-03-28T22:55:31 *** valeuf
132 2010-03-28T23:03:50 *** valeuf
133 2010-03-28T23:05:41 *** valeuf
134 2010-03-28T23:28:15 *** valeuf
135 2010-03-28T23:43:46 *** vpv_
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