1 2010-02-12T00:05:23 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: but there will likely be a get-to-know period in which the student can do these non-coding related tasks
2 2010-02-12T00:05:48 <ThomasWaldmann> let's see :)
3 2010-02-12T00:08:50 *** grzywacz
4 2010-02-12T00:17:33 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: btw, now a easy_install --user does exist
5 2010-02-12T00:18:14 <ThomasWaldmann> and?
6 2010-02-12T00:18:56 <ronny> i need people to help me finding the parts of my brain that ran away while i fought with pje code
7 2010-02-12T01:54:26 *** dennda
8 2010-02-12T01:54:59 *** dennda
9 2010-02-12T11:08:01 *** dennda
10 2010-02-12T11:08:01 *** dennda
11 2010-02-12T13:47:39 *** eSyr
12 2010-02-12T16:16:39 <CIA-41> Eugene Syromyatnikov <evgsyr@gmail.com> default * 498:c5ffd7c05b90 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: removed "page untranslated" warning for admin pages.
13 2010-02-12T18:02:36 *** kursor
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15 2010-02-12T19:02:20 <CIA-41> Eugene Syromyatnikov <evgsyr@gmail.com> default * 5527:48c7d851938f 1.9/MoinMoin/action/info.py: info action: reversed order of numbering offsets in links nad info message in history viewer.
16 2010-02-12T19:02:22 <CIA-41> Eugene Syromyatnikov <evgsyr@gmail.com> default * 5528:9101ca32b43d 1.9/MoinMoin/action/info.py: Merge
17 2010-02-12T19:31:05 <ThomasWaldmann> re
18 2010-02-12T20:16:07 *** eSyr
19 2010-02-12T20:24:32 <dreimark> re
20 2010-02-12T20:35:02 *** grzywacz
21 2010-02-12T21:26:35 *** valeuf
22 2010-02-12T21:29:04 <valeuf> dreimark: thanks to moving my path to bug category
23 2010-02-12T21:29:18 <valeuf> dreimark: I am sorry if I was wrong with this, I was quite confuse
24 2010-02-12T22:00:24 *** franklin
25 2010-02-12T22:03:25 *** franklin_
26 2010-02-12T22:04:23 *** franklin_
27 2010-02-12T22:06:46 *** franklin
28 2010-02-12T23:06:59 *** grzywacz
29 2010-02-12T23:20:12 <dreimark> valeuf: you doubled the category twice so I exchanged one
30 2010-02-12T23:21:09 <dreimark> see http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/diff/MoinMoinPatch/IncludeMacroWithDocBookFormatter?action=diff&date=1264236146000000
31 2010-02-12T23:21:42 <dreimark> docbook patches are very welcome
32 2010-02-12T23:27:09 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: reading?
33 2010-02-12T23:32:29 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: sorry I was away from my keyboard
34 2010-02-12T23:33:47 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: i can't test the patch here as there is no python-xml any more on ubuntu 9.10
35 2010-02-12T23:34:21 <ThomasWaldmann> that is one of the bigger problems btw and should be addressed by a rewrite of docbook stuff in moin2
36 2010-02-12T23:34:26 <valeuf> dreimark: ah yes I see, I think I did not check carefully the Category I choose :$
37 2010-02-12T23:34:54 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: is there another library instead of python-xml ?
38 2010-02-12T23:35:10 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the patch should be fixed to explain why you do that, not what you do (which is rather obvious from the code)
39 2010-02-12T23:35:33 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: don't ask me too much about docbook or xml stuff
40 2010-02-12T23:36:02 <ThomasWaldmann> we'll use emeraldtree in moin2 which is a fork of elementtree
41 2010-02-12T23:36:28 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure whether that is what you need for docbook
42 2010-02-12T23:37:02 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: the stuff in MoinMoin.parser and .formatter has to be regarded legacy, see .converter2 in moin2
43 2010-02-12T23:37:34 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/EmeraldTree/
44 2010-02-12T23:37:50 <valeuf> dreimark: Thanks for the link I was looking for this !!
45 2010-02-12T23:38:29 <valeuf> Why didi you fork Element Tree ?
46 2010-02-12T23:38:41 <dreimark> waldi: ping
47 2010-02-12T23:38:43 <valeuf> The author of this libs did not want to include your changes ?
48 2010-02-12T23:38:50 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: btw, if you just .replace("editlink", ""), please check different place where it can occur in arg string
49 2010-02-12T23:39:23 <ThomasWaldmann> it could give (,otherargs) or (otherargs,) or (other,,args)
50 2010-02-12T23:39:29 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I will have a look for moin2 relative stuffs, however at this time I need to fix docbook for moin1.9 so I will focus on this version
51 2010-02-12T23:39:29 <dreimark> valeuf: see the readme
52 2010-02-12T23:39:57 <dreimark> we need text different handled
53 2010-02-12T23:40:40 <waldi> dreimark: icmp echo reply
54 2010-02-12T23:40:58 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: elementtree has some problems and quite some legacy compatibility code for python 1.5 or so
55 2010-02-12T23:41:12 <valeuf> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann I see
56 2010-02-12T23:41:24 <dreimark> waldi: valeuf may have questions about /EmeraldTree
57 2010-02-12T23:41:32 <waldi> dreimark: yep, already seen
58 2010-02-12T23:42:52 <waldi> valeuf: the interface was changed in an incompatible way and there is no possibility to retain backward compatibility
59 2010-02-12T23:43:22 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: someone already worked on the python-xml problem (debian wants to kill it from dist), but gave up
60 2010-02-12T23:44:00 <ThomasWaldmann> obviously ubuntu already did that
61 2010-02-12T23:44:29 <valeuf> Anyway Docbook stuffs is a pretty small piece of code, it should be pretty easy to use another library to generate XML
62 2010-02-12T23:44:48 <ThomasWaldmann> nobody maintains it
63 2010-02-12T23:45:08 <ThomasWaldmann> and i don't even use it
64 2010-02-12T23:46:06 <valeuf> that's quite sad, it is an interesting tools to generate nice documentation or pdf from a wiki page
65 2010-02-12T23:46:40 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: but I agree that DocBook is not so common
66 2010-02-12T23:47:06 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, some people want to use it. but if noone cares, it will either die from lack of pyxml or because the code doesn't work any more in moin2.
67 2010-02-12T23:48:10 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I am quite interest to use later on Moin2 so after I finish the different patch for moin1.9 I can try to rewrite this using your emeraldtree library
68 2010-02-12T23:48:41 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: it should not be so complicate especially if some EmraldTree guru can answer to my different questions
69 2010-02-12T23:49:25 <ThomasWaldmann> you need to look at the other converters
70 2010-02-12T23:50:18 <ThomasWaldmann> parsing db might be rather easy, because it already is (docbook-)xml
71 2010-02-12T23:51:13 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I read the other converter this afternoon and I did not see bif difference with formatter from moin1.9
72 2010-02-12T23:53:16 <ThomasWaldmann> as it is using dom tree as internal intermediate format, it is easily able to produce valid x(ht)ml output
73 2010-02-12T23:53:38 <ThomasWaldmann> the old stuff had quite some problems with nesting and validity
74 2010-02-12T23:53:42 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/DependencyOnOrphanedPythonXML
75 2010-02-12T23:54:16 <ThomasWaldmann> also, stuff like TOC and Include can be done in a clean and always working way, that was a mess in 1.x
76 2010-02-12T23:56:15 <valeuf> I see
77 2010-02-12T23:56:27 <valeuf> well I do not see completely, but I have a vague idea
78 2010-02-12T23:58:27 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: ok, so about the current patch, can you check / clarify (see above)?
79 2010-02-12T23:59:07 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: about the different result of replace function ?
