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 134 2009-12-16T08:34:43  <dreimark> moin
 135 2009-12-16T08:44:44  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
 136 2009-12-16T09:20:09  <CIA-87> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5386:581cdc260b90 1.9/MoinMoin/action/serveopenid.py: openid server: use request.values to process POSTed form data AND URL args
 137 2009-12-16T09:33:28  <johill> moin
 138 2009-12-16T09:34:24  <johill> I've determined that I'll downgrade to 1.8, 1.9 is using too much memory
 139 2009-12-16T09:34:42  <johill> or does anyone have a quick idea where that could be and how to fix it?
 140 2009-12-16T09:34:46  <ThomasWaldmann> huh?
 141 2009-12-16T09:36:01  <dreimark> how much ?
 142 2009-12-16T09:36:13  <johill> after a few hours each moin process runs up to about 70MiB, at which point I'm forced to kill them
 143 2009-12-16T09:36:21  <johill> 1.8 would never reach that much even after a day or more
 144 2009-12-16T09:37:18  <ThomasWaldmann> i think i've seen much bigger moin processes long ago
 145 2009-12-16T09:37:54  <johill> I suppose it depends on various things
 146 2009-12-16T09:37:58  <dreimark> johill: is this a lighty flup setup?
 147 2009-12-16T09:38:06  <johill> yes
 148 2009-12-16T09:39:02  <ThomasWaldmann> that stuff doesn't have a "end worker process after N requests option", right?
 149 2009-12-16T09:39:25  <johill> not that I know of
 150 2009-12-16T09:39:34  <johill> I used to kill processes every day because even 1.8 was leaking memory
 151 2009-12-16T09:39:44  * ThomasWaldmann usually has N = 500 .. 1000 for mod_wsgi
 152 2009-12-16T09:39:44  <johill> but now I'd have to do that every two hours or so I guess
 153 2009-12-16T09:40:26  <dreimark> does flup recognize a touch of the deployment script similiar to touch moin.wsgi?
 154 2009-12-16T09:40:36  <ThomasWaldmann> does it have automatic worker restart if worker terminates?
 155 2009-12-16T09:40:49  <johill> yeah
 156 2009-12-16T09:41:06  <johill> I mean restart, no idea what deployment script you mean :)
 157 2009-12-16T09:42:18  <ThomasWaldmann> one maybe could add a request counter to moin and terminate after processing the Nth request
 158 2009-12-16T09:43:07  <johill> however, each startup now has huge overhead too
 159 2009-12-16T09:43:08  <ThomasWaldmann> not sure whether something like that is wsgi compliant, though
 160 2009-12-16T09:43:15  <johill> because it stats all the stupid underlay pages
 161 2009-12-16T09:43:51  <ThomasWaldmann> group code?
 162 2009-12-16T09:43:52  <dreimark> johill: you can have only 10 of that pages
 163 2009-12-16T09:44:07  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: no idea
 164 2009-12-16T09:44:20  <johill> dreimark: most wikis don't have more, but some still want all
 165 2009-12-16T09:44:21  <dreimark> essentialsystem pages or so
 166 2009-12-16T09:44:29  <dreimark> ok
 167 2009-12-16T09:45:11  <ThomasWaldmann> optimizing that could be interesting for our cgi users, not sure how much there are of them
 168 2009-12-16T09:45:56  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: before switching back, please do some more openid tests
 169 2009-12-16T09:46:23  <johill> seems to be working now
 170 2009-12-16T09:46:43  <johill> I've tried logging in with moin, and logging in to moin
 171 2009-12-16T09:46:55  <ThomasWaldmann> see your bug reports
 172 2009-12-16T09:47:06  <johill> maybe I can get away with killing it every hour now
 173 2009-12-16T09:47:23  <johill> ah well the existing thing ... not sure how to try that
 174 2009-12-16T09:47:52  <johill> although I can do that locally
 175 2009-12-16T09:48:58  <johill> it's unlikely though
 176 2009-12-16T09:49:02  <johill> in that case, the form is posted
 177 2009-12-16T09:50:17  <johill> and in fact, it's a bug on the client
 178 2009-12-16T09:50:22  <johill> the server conversation finishes
 179 2009-12-16T09:51:57  <johill> ah ... I see what broke it
 180 2009-12-16T09:52:02  <johill> rowan did :)
 181 2009-12-16T09:54:53  <johill> fix on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/OpenIDExistingBroken
 182 2009-12-16T09:55:59  * ThomasWaldmann looks
 183 2009-12-16T09:56:15  <johill> not sure if it's complete tho
 184 2009-12-16T09:56:26  <johill> do you _require_ the /moinaction/ prefix?
 185 2009-12-16T09:56:31  <johill> if so, it's not correct
 186 2009-12-16T09:59:01  <CIA-87> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5387:63f2d05c7c20 1.9/MoinMoin/action/login.py: openid: fix logging in with openid and associating with an existing account
 187 2009-12-16T10:00:44  <ThomasWaldmann> links use it, but iirc it also works without
 188 2009-12-16T10:01:09  <ThomasWaldmann> (it is for robots.txt like exclusions, need path)
 189 2009-12-16T10:01:36  <johill> right
 190 2009-12-16T10:03:09  <johill> ok, I have to go, lets see how it holds up with memory now ...
 191 2009-12-16T10:03:24  <johill> I'd appreciate if somebody could look into why it opens every single page :)
 192 2009-12-16T10:03:47  <ThomasWaldmann> i think even 1.8 does that (scan_dicts or how it was called)
 193 2009-12-16T10:04:08  <ThomasWaldmann> 1.9 should be more lazy in that respect
 194 2009-12-16T10:07:04  <johill> I don't remember 1.8 ever being stuck in a loop like that though
 195 2009-12-16T10:07:13  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: do you have globally enabled debug logging?
 196 2009-12-16T10:07:22  <johill> pretty sure I would've noticed, since I did notice now right away
 197 2009-12-16T10:07:36  <johill> I don't think so, but I'm not really sure
 198 2009-12-16T10:07:50  <ThomasWaldmann> it is not by default
 199 2009-12-16T10:08:00  <johill> (the log file doesn't have anything, and I didn't change the script this time to enable anything)
 200 2009-12-16T10:10:53  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess I'll use the debugger and step through stuff, maybe later today. that'll make insane stuff rather obvious. :)
 201 2009-12-16T10:12:05  <johill> heh yeah
 202 2009-12-16T10:12:33  <johill> bbl
 203 2009-12-16T10:32:35  <dreimark> do we have something which extracts the pagename from a [[pagedefintion]]?
 204 2009-12-16T12:21:49  <ThomasWaldmann> re
 205 2009-12-16T12:21:58  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: see bug page
 206 2009-12-16T12:36:04  <dreimark> invalidated
 207 2009-12-16T12:36:49  <dreimark> I was confused by RandomPage
 208 2009-12-16T12:37:37  <ThomasWaldmann> ah :)
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 213 2009-12-16T13:19:17  <CIA-87> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 462:b421f10f67b9 extensions/data/plugin/macro/CycleContent.py: macro CycleContent: Cycles by the refresh rate given on the page where it is called through a page list.
 214 2009-12-16T13:39:15  <dreimark> btw. that also can be used for slideshows and also without a refresh rate because each request cycles
 215 2009-12-16T13:46:22  <ThomasWaldmann> there is a docstring :)
 216 2009-12-16T14:21:09  <CIA-87> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 463:959817d46551 extensions/data/plugin/macro/CycleContent.py: macro CycleContent: update of doc string
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 287 2009-12-16T19:59:53  <dreimark> bbl
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