1 2009-11-29T00:00:05 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: do you use tabs?
2 2009-11-29T00:00:45 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/FeatureRequests/LeaveRedirectInPlaceWhenRenamingPages?action=diff&rev2=7&rev1=6 diff looks strange somehow
3 2009-11-29T00:01:23 <eSyr> mmm, what exactly?
4 2009-11-29T00:03:01 <ThomasWaldmann> + rename_subpages = int(self.request.form.get('rename_subpages', '0'))
5 2009-11-29T00:03:20 <ThomasWaldmann> that and the stuff below it look like differently indented
6 2009-11-29T00:04:29 <eSyr> hm, diff looks strange, but i can't find nothing odd in code below
7 2009-11-29T00:16:24 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: new i18n strings
8 2009-11-29T00:16:47 <ThomasWaldmann> in case you like to update ru before I rerun import script
9 2009-11-29T00:17:41 <eSyr> yes, i'm doing it right now :)
10 2009-11-29T00:19:22 <eSyr> i'm done
11 2009-11-29T00:20:45 <eSyr> (oh, 53 unread page diffs on moinmo.in -_-)
12 2009-11-29T00:21:23 <ThomasWaldmann> reimar was quite active :)
13 2009-11-29T00:21:37 <eSyr> yes, it's great.
14 2009-11-29T00:29:33 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5319:16255e1fe7e8 1.9/MoinMoin/action/login.py: Backed out changeset 329241cd48b6. Login does not work any more.
15 2009-11-29T00:29:35 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5320:6986a4c845c8 1.9/MoinMoin/action/login.py: merged backout with tip
16 2009-11-29T00:42:37 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: how is using Icon macro related to HelpOnNavigation?
17 2009-11-29T00:44:03 <eSyr> err, i've just prettyfied what Reimer added.
18 2009-11-29T00:44:20 <eSyr> (because i've done it during updating russian translation)
19 2009-11-29T00:46:28 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, I don't think it matches the page's topic very well
20 2009-11-29T00:46:31 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^
21 2009-11-29T00:47:01 <eSyr> *Reimar
22 2009-11-29T00:47:39 <eSyr> well, it is linked from HelpOnMacros.
23 2009-11-29T00:47:49 <eSyr> in description of Icon macro.
24 2009-11-29T00:49:03 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that's also strange
25 2009-11-29T00:50:58 <ThomasWaldmann> also, it is maybe not good to show the macros for smileys, because :) is easier than <<Icon(smile.png)>>
26 2009-11-29T00:53:44 <eSyr> well, we can remove all except something non-smileish.
27 2009-11-29T00:54:15 <eSyr> and leave only several examples
28 2009-11-29T00:54:27 <eSyr> (because they can vary for different tamemes and so on)
29 2009-11-29T00:57:30 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: yeah
30 2009-11-29T01:08:33 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5321:69c88d5ce18b 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/ (43 files): updated i18n
31 2009-11-29T01:09:57 <eSyr> hehe, localized attachment dialog :3
32 2009-11-29T01:11:17 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, can strings from other dialogs added such way?
33 2009-11-29T01:11:59 <eSyr> (macro dialog and link dialog, as i can see)
34 2009-11-29T01:19:05 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
35 2009-11-29T01:21:57 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5322:62689b2cc821 1.9/wiki/underlay.tar: updated underlay
36 2009-11-29T01:28:30 <ThomasWaldmann> wtf, make pagepacks is broken
37 2009-11-29T01:29:04 <eSyr> suddenly.
38 2009-11-29T01:41:53 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, i want to add russian wikipedia to master interwikimap, but i'm not sure about it: if adding wp in national language, then adding wikipedia in all national languages, which isn't... err... good?
39 2009-11-29T01:45:20 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess it will be added on-demand :)
40 2009-11-29T01:47:45 <eSyr> so, there is nothing wrong if i add RuWikiPedia?
41 2009-11-29T01:48:13 <eSyr> (oh, it was already here, my bad)
42 2009-11-29T01:53:47 * ThomasWaldmann found the bug
43 2009-11-29T01:55:13 <eSyr> what bug?
44 2009-11-29T01:55:21 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5323:6525ddcac8cd 1.9/MoinMoin/script/maint/mkpagepacks.py: fix mkpagepacks, fix attr name collision
45 2009-11-29T01:55:26 <ThomasWaldmann> ^^
46 2009-11-29T01:55:53 <eSyr> oh, i see.
47 2009-11-29T02:02:09 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5324:92b69df8a374 1.9/ (MoinMoin/version.py moin.spec): prepare 1.9.0rc2 release, bump version number
48 2009-11-29T02:02:11 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5325:e8dc5fee60d3 1.9/docs/CHANGES: update CHANGES
49 2009-11-29T02:10:03 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.9.0rc2.tar.gz < if someone likes to test...
50 2009-11-29T02:10:39 <ThomasWaldmann> b67a2215aedc90eb61697d25fdf14920 moin-1.9.0rc2.tar.gz
51 2009-11-29T02:10:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (md5sum)
52 2009-11-29T02:10:52 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, you should update topic on #moin then :)
53 2009-11-29T02:11:14 <ThomasWaldmann> that's just for internal testing right now :)
54 2009-11-29T02:11:41 <eSyr> oh, ok :)
55 2009-11-29T02:12:01 <eSyr> well, as i can see, rename redirects wasn't added :(
56 2009-11-29T02:12:29 <ThomasWaldmann> no, not yet
57 2009-11-29T02:13:23 <eSyr> ok.
58 2009-11-29T02:16:11 <eSyr> i think i'll test it on beginning of next week, i'm trying to revise translated pages now.
59 2009-11-29T02:16:21 <eSyr> (and refactor uneex.ru -_-)
60 2009-11-29T02:17:45 <ThomasWaldmann> I'll release rc2 later today, after some sleeping and testing :)
61 2009-11-29T02:18:34 <eSyr> hehe, good night.
62 2009-11-29T02:20:00 <ThomasWaldmann> gn
63 2009-11-29T02:20:05 <eSyr> and, btw, i've added moinmo.in/News page, may be it can be used as on uneex.ru/News (<<Include(News, "News", 1, to="##end news list##")>>)?
64 2009-11-29T02:28:31 *** grzywacz
65 2009-11-29T09:10:03 *** JosefMeier_
66 2009-11-29T09:11:38 *** JosefMeier
67 2009-11-29T11:24:08 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
68 2009-11-29T11:33:33 *** evgSyr
69 2009-11-29T11:35:41 *** eSyr
70 2009-11-29T12:07:58 * dreimark fetches rc2 candidate
71 2009-11-29T12:08:30 <dreimark> moin
72 2009-11-29T12:51:52 <TheSheep> "camel_link": ur"""\w+[%s]\w+""" % re.escape(u''.join(unichr(i) for i in xrange(120779) if unicodedata.category(unichr(i))=='Lu'))
73 2009-11-29T12:51:56 <TheSheep> :D
74 2009-11-29T12:53:38 <ThomasWaldmann> looks strange
75 2009-11-29T12:54:31 <TheSheep> only 1421 characters :)
76 2009-11-29T12:55:02 <TheSheep> I wonder if it's a good idea, considering memory use
77 2009-11-29T12:55:40 <TheSheep> there should be character groups based on unicode classes :(
78 2009-11-29T12:57:35 <ThomasWaldmann> but usually CamelCase is like that, not camelCase
79 2009-11-29T12:58:14 <ThomasWaldmann> and it can be also CamelCaseLink
80 2009-11-29T12:58:15 <TheSheep> it's a sick camel
81 2009-11-29T12:59:11 <ThomasWaldmann> call it dromedarcase :P
82 2009-11-29T13:00:32 <ThomasWaldmann> but i meanwhile feel CamelCase and free links (I mean without markup) should go away
83 2009-11-29T13:00:55 <TheSheep> depends on the use case
84 2009-11-29T13:01:28 <ThomasWaldmann> http://pastebin.com/f3b741806 < just put that onto #pocoo channel
85 2009-11-29T13:02:16 <ThomasWaldmann> it is causing so much trouble, requires anti-trouble workarounds that life is maybe just so much easier without
86 2009-11-29T13:02:36 <TheSheep> dates are so tricky
87 2009-11-29T13:02:45 <TheSheep> one of the uglies areas of text processing around
88 2009-11-29T13:02:51 <TheSheep> ugliest
89 2009-11-29T14:17:11 *** evgSyr
90 2009-11-29T16:58:34 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5326:1ba150d90d3a 1.9/MoinMoin/ (action/AttachFile.py support/werkzeug/http.py): custom patch for werkzeug 0.5.1 http.parse_date to catch exceptions raised by stdlib, remove exception handler at moin level
91 2009-11-29T16:59:39 <ThomasWaldmann> ^^ done that way because we access request.if_modified_since at quite some places and I didn't want that handler duplicated N times.
92 2009-11-29T17:25:31 *** eisi
93 2009-11-29T17:27:09 <ThomasWaldmann> any testing results from rc2 yet?
94 2009-11-29T17:35:43 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: http://pastebin.com/f56fbabc0 is that your fix for the renaming bug?
95 2009-11-29T17:36:06 <eSyr> yes.
96 2009-11-29T17:36:28 <ThomasWaldmann> did you test it in practice?
97 2009-11-29T17:36:48 <eSyr> yes.
98 2009-11-29T17:37:18 <eSyr> at least, it wasn't coninue when i tried to rename to existing page.
99 2009-11-29T17:37:30 <eSyr> (and continue in other cases)
100 2009-11-29T17:37:35 <eSyr> *continued
101 2009-11-29T17:39:16 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5327:501b170e3238 1.9/MoinMoin/action/RenamePage.py: abort RenamePage if renaming of main page fails (do not try to rename subpages), thanks to Eugene Syromyatnikov
102 2009-11-29T17:43:03 *** eisi
103 2009-11-29T17:43:46 <dreimark> eSyr: I tested the login patch too, but i missed one case
104 2009-11-29T17:45:15 <eSyr> dreimark, so, in next several hours we'll know, whether my patch really working or not :)
105 2009-11-29T17:45:57 <eSyr> (but i can't imagine cases when renaming return success=True, but fails)
106 2009-11-29T17:46:29 <dreimark> I thought on changing renamepage by hacl only callable by the superuser list
107 2009-11-29T17:47:09 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: what do you think on that change?
108 2009-11-29T17:48:45 <eSyr> dreimark, this should be configurable whether this will be implemented.
109 2009-11-29T17:50:09 <dreimark> not sure if i want it configurable. because you can disbale it by actions_excluded
110 2009-11-29T17:50:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
111 2009-11-29T17:53:01 * dreimark sets up an example
112 2009-11-29T17:54:43 <dreimark> I think currently you can move a page into another hierarchy of pages
113 2009-11-29T17:54:58 <dreimark> and the moved page has then different acls
114 2009-11-29T17:59:14 <ThomasWaldmann> fate :P
115 2009-11-29T17:59:23 <dreimark> ?
116 2009-11-29T18:01:35 <ThomasWaldmann> "schicksal"
117 2009-11-29T18:04:32 <dreimark> the problem is that the one who has access only to a subpage or (pages of a subpage) can move it to a place where he is able to create the page.
118 2009-11-29T18:05:05 <dreimark> then by default rights more than this user could access the page
119 2009-11-29T18:05:57 <dreimark> or if it is a subpage then he has new master acls
120 2009-11-29T18:07:03 <dreimark> so don't give that right to any user
121 2009-11-29T18:07:04 <ThomasWaldmann> you don't need to give delete right if you don't want people to be able to rename
122 2009-11-29T18:07:37 <dreimark> <2.0 then they can't remove attachmentd too
123 2009-11-29T18:08:15 <ThomasWaldmann> well, to say it short: i don't feel like last-minute acl changes
124 2009-11-29T18:09:05 * dreimark don't want that in 1.9.0. I recognized it because of eSyr's patch
125 2009-11-29T18:09:25 <ThomasWaldmann> then make a good plan for 2.0
126 2009-11-29T18:09:50 <dreimark> ;)
127 2009-11-29T18:16:45 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5328:9161bf60a745 1.9/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
128 2009-11-29T18:17:55 * ThomasWaldmann creates a new rc2 with minor changes
129 2009-11-29T18:21:01 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: 00_needs_fixing contains some pages with cyrillic names
130 2009-11-29T18:21:39 <ThomasWaldmann> (and lots of other languages, too)
131 2009-11-29T18:22:03 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, i've fixed everything related to russian.
132 2009-11-29T18:22:24 <eSyr> i don't know other slavic languages and can only guess.
133 2009-11-29T18:23:49 <ThomasWaldmann> so did you read through that list in 00_needs_fixing package?
134 2009-11-29T18:25:56 <eSyr> yes, shortly after rc1 released.
135 2009-11-29T18:26:02 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/RussianDict is that needed there, it also ends up in 00_...
136 2009-11-29T18:26:29 <eSyr> yes, it is used as example in HelpOnMacros and HelpOnDicts
137 2009-11-29T18:26:42 <eSyr> (for illustration purposes)
138 2009-11-29T18:27:56 <eSyr> it can be removed if you want.
139 2009-11-29T18:32:18 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it isn't packaged in the russian package anyway
140 2009-11-29T18:32:49 <ThomasWaldmann> (and we don't have EnglishDict, do we?)
141 2009-11-29T18:33:21 <ThomasWaldmann> wouldn't make much sense anyway
142 2009-11-29T18:34:53 <eSyr> hm, i can propose to add English dict :)
143 2009-11-29T18:36:28 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, we have 20MB page packages X)
144 2009-11-29T18:37:47 <eSyr> huh.
145 2009-11-29T18:38:47 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, can package without AnyWikiDraw also be made, it uses too much space? (1.7 distro is 5.7 mb, and 1.9 is 23...)
146 2009-11-29T18:39:05 <eSyr> (i've noticed it when downloaded moin useing gprs)
147 2009-11-29T18:39:08 <eSyr> *using
148 2009-11-29T18:41:05 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: well, if awd delevopment incorporates changes to use it from moinmoin without changes, we could keep it separate
149 2009-11-29T18:41:28 <ThomasWaldmann> but I don't know the current state of affairs there...
150 2009-11-29T18:42:12 <ThomasWaldmann> as the package zips are stored without compression, tgz removes the redundancy from them all and creates 9MB from them
151 2009-11-29T18:44:03 <eSyr> hm, grep revealed usage only in action/anywikidraw.py and config.multiconfig.py (extension association) (i've grepped by awiki, anywiki and anywikidraw)
152 2009-11-29T18:48:22 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, it handles adraw files
153 2009-11-29T18:54:42 <ThomasWaldmann> df55291c14dffeb6b833fa2a5f973f7b moin-1.9.0rc2.tar.gz
154 2009-11-29T18:55:32 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.9.0rc2.tar.gz < if someone likes to test...
155 2009-11-29T18:55:35 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.9.0rc2.tar.gz < if someone likes to test...
156 2009-11-29T18:55:42 <ThomasWaldmann> oops
157 2009-11-29T18:55:59 * dreimark downloads
158 2009-11-29T18:57:09 <eSyr> Длина: 27 747 326 (26M) [application/x-gzip] -_-
159 2009-11-29T18:58:35 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, it's big
160 2009-11-29T18:58:44 <dreimark> eSyr: >14MB java
161 2009-11-29T18:59:15 <eSyr> dreimark, yes, i know -_-
162 2009-11-29T18:59:27 <eSyr> the worst in it that i'll not use it.
163 2009-11-29T18:59:34 <eSyr> completely.
164 2009-11-29T18:59:39 <eSyr> *i'm not using it
165 2009-11-29T19:00:15 <eSyr> (that's why i want separate packege without anywikidraw and svgedit as editor for drawings :) )
166 2009-11-29T19:01:05 <dreimark> svgedit is external currently and only 3MB if it becomes added
167 2009-11-29T19:01:26 <eSyr> yes, it is.
168 2009-11-29T19:01:33 <dreimark> a anywikidraw debian package would be great
169 2009-11-29T19:02:17 <eSyr> (i do not want to think, what debian maintainer will make with moin 1.9 -_-)
170 2009-11-29T19:44:15 * ThomasWaldmann has prepared front page and download page for the rc2 release, just waiting for feedback
171 2009-11-29T19:45:03 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, it starts and seems working :)
172 2009-11-29T19:46:10 <eSyr> (i'm writing little patch to add some flexibility to WikiConfigHelp now)
173 2009-11-29T19:46:23 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
174 2009-11-29T19:47:24 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153693/
175 2009-11-29T19:47:45 <eSyr> it will be useful for help pages if you apply this.
176 2009-11-29T19:51:45 <dreimark> JosefMeier_: how do you handle [[attachment:image.png|LinktoImage]]
177 2009-11-29T19:51:55 <eSyr> (hm, may be when creating new user failed, we should show crete user form again?)
178 2009-11-29T19:52:17 <dreimark> JosefMeier_: one could enter after selecting an image and enter image.png|LinktoImage
179 2009-11-29T19:57:15 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: ok
180 2009-11-29T19:57:26 <eSyr> thanks!
181 2009-11-29T20:05:05 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: sounds good
182 2009-11-29T20:13:29 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5329:7acacea506d8 1.9/.hgtags: tagged release 1.9.0rc2
183 2009-11-29T20:14:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, from now on, ANY i18n changes will be rejected
184 2009-11-29T20:14:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (i mean in the original strings, we need to give the translators a final chance to catch up)
185 2009-11-29T20:15:21 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, so there will be no redirects on renaming in 1.9.0?
186 2009-11-29T20:15:56 <eSyr> well, this is sad.
187 2009-11-29T20:18:12 <ThomasWaldmann> we can add this for .1
188 2009-11-29T20:19:02 <eSyr> well, then i will hope that this feaure will be added sooner or later :)
189 2009-11-29T20:19:57 <ThomasWaldmann> a good time for this is directly after .0 release, so we can test it for a while before we release .1
190 2009-11-29T20:22:42 <dennda_> ThomasWaldmann: belated hey ;)
191 2009-11-29T20:22:44 *** dennda_
192 2009-11-29T20:23:16 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
193 2009-11-29T20:24:45 <dennda> bloody freenode loves to split
194 2009-11-29T20:27:54 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you want to do some sqla hacking, the backend could need some tuning :)
195 2009-11-29T20:39:25 <dennda> i know i know
196 2009-11-29T20:39:39 <dennda> it's just that i'm doing my thesis at the moment :)
197 2009-11-29T20:42:50 <ThomasWaldmann> master?
198 2009-11-29T20:43:23 <ThomasWaldmann> about what is it?
199 2009-11-29T20:47:46 <dreimark> hi dennda
200 2009-11-29T20:50:54 <dennda> hi dreimark
201 2009-11-29T20:51:37 <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: Bachelor's. The title is: Developing a Multi-Touch Application for Medical Volume Visualization
202 2009-11-29T20:52:29 <dreimark> Iassume python ?
203 2009-11-29T20:52:37 <dreimark> sounds cool
204 2009-11-29T20:52:40 <dennda> jup
205 2009-11-29T20:52:57 <dennda> if something gets too slow, which i doubt, i will use c++
206 2009-11-29T20:53:26 <dennda> but the rendering is done in c++ anyways. just the multi-touch input handling and gui is done with python. but that's the main part i'm focusing on
207 2009-11-29T20:57:15 <dreimark> hmm, that kind of navigation should be added to smartboards too
208 2009-11-29T20:59:05 <dreimark> on what gui lib do you base it on ?
209 2009-11-29T20:59:53 <dennda> opengl
210 2009-11-29T20:59:58 <dennda> at the lowest level
211 2009-11-29T21:00:08 <dennda> then above that, pyglet or pyopengl as bindings
212 2009-11-29T21:00:13 <dennda> and above that, pymt
213 2009-11-29T21:01:46 <dennda> http://the-space-station.com/
214 2009-11-29T21:01:51 <dennda> see my latest blog entry
215 2009-11-29T21:07:33 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, next sunday is dec 6th
216 2009-11-29T21:08:20 <dreimark> that needs a special logo
217 2009-11-29T21:08:37 *** franklin_
218 2009-11-29T21:09:49 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: and a release? :)
219 2009-11-29T21:12:03 <dreimark> yeah :)
220 2009-11-29T21:12:40 * eSyr goes wikipedia about 6th decenber
221 2009-11-29T21:14:22 <JosefMeier_> moin moin
222 2009-11-29T21:14:40 <eSyr> johann christoph bach?
223 2009-11-29T21:14:46 <eSyr> JosefMeier_, moin.
224 2009-11-29T21:14:53 *** JosefMeier_
225 2009-11-29T21:16:35 <dreimark> eSyr: nikolaus
226 2009-11-29T21:17:28 <dreimark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
227 2009-11-29T21:20:26 <ThomasWaldmann> so we need to release sat -> sun
228 2009-11-29T21:20:45 <eSyr> oh, i see.
229 2009-11-29T21:22:26 <ThomasWaldmann> hi josef
230 2009-11-29T21:22:32 <JosefMeier> hi thomas
231 2009-11-29T21:23:56 *** franklin
232 2009-11-29T21:33:29 <dreimark> JosefMeier: do you have seen my question?
233 2009-11-29T21:34:23 <JosefMeier> I don't understand your question. You are talking about the link title?
234 2009-11-29T21:36:52 <dreimark> if i write image.png|Image it becomes [[attachment:image.png|Image]]
235 2009-11-29T21:37:08 <dreimark> but if I click on the link I get only the image.png
236 2009-11-29T21:38:40 <JosefMeier> where do you write image.png|image ?
237 2009-11-29T21:38:43 <JosefMeier> in the dialog?
238 2009-11-29T21:38:46 <dreimark> s
239 2009-11-29T21:38:49 <dreimark> yes
240 2009-11-29T21:39:37 <JosefMeier> was it a feature request that the dialog should support this syntax? Did the old dialog support it?
241 2009-11-29T21:40:19 <dreimark> it can be a FR or a bug because now if one edits such a link the link is removed
242 2009-11-29T21:47:06 <JosefMeier> Normally the user types in text, marks it and then adds a link to it. Then everything should be ok. I can't imagine that someone wants to add attachmentname|describingtext in the dialog
243 2009-11-29T21:47:24 <dreimark> yeah not in the dialog
244 2009-11-29T21:47:40 <JosefMeier> ??
245 2009-11-29T21:47:52 <dreimark> but currently he didn't know that he destroy content
246 2009-11-29T21:48:03 <JosefMeier> have you tried it on the live demo?
247 2009-11-29T21:48:15 <dreimark> i tried it in rc2
248 2009-11-29T21:49:20 <JosefMeier> Can you exactly write what you did and what the problem is?
249 2009-11-29T21:51:25 <dreimark> go on WikiSandBox place the cursor at HelpOnEditing, select attachment in gui, you get test.png from the list, say ok and save the page
250 2009-11-29T21:51:41 <dreimark> HelpOnEditing is on bottom of the page
251 2009-11-29T21:52:06 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4421:f85451f31460 1.8/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
252 2009-11-29T21:52:51 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, do you prepare 1.8 release?
253 2009-11-29T21:52:59 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
254 2009-11-29T21:54:09 <ThomasWaldmann> I'ld like to do a 1.8.6 soon, merge to 1.9 (so docs/CHANGES is complete) and then release 1.9.0
255 2009-11-29T21:54:41 <eSyr> errr... how soon?
256 2009-11-29T21:54:46 <JosefMeier> dreimark: I did it. But nothing wrong happens
257 2009-11-29T21:54:54 <eSyr> i'd like to backport translation before 1.8.6
258 2009-11-29T21:54:59 <ThomasWaldmann> friday?
259 2009-11-29T21:55:06 <eSyr> ok.
260 2009-11-29T21:55:09 <eSyr> thanks.
261 2009-11-29T21:55:12 <JosefMeier> I put the cursor on HelpOnEditing, startet the attachment dialog, and only pressed ok afterwards. Nothing wrong happend
262 2009-11-29T21:55:42 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: do you mean help pages?
263 2009-11-29T21:55:48 <ThomasWaldmann> the po is just missing 1 msg
264 2009-11-29T21:55:52 <JosefMeier> dreimark: I always tested with link texts.
265 2009-11-29T21:56:01 <dreimark> JosefMeier: and do you have saved?
266 2009-11-29T21:56:06 <JosefMeier> yes
267 2009-11-29T21:56:07 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, yes.
268 2009-11-29T21:56:17 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, what msg& where?
269 2009-11-29T21:56:28 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, be careful, so it still applies to 1.8 :D
270 2009-11-29T21:56:31 <JosefMeier> I pressed ok. Then I saved the result.
271 2009-11-29T21:56:42 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master18.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ru
272 2009-11-29T21:56:42 * dreimark repeats it
273 2009-11-29T21:56:55 <eSyr> ah, ok.
274 2009-11-29T21:57:28 <eSyr> (hehe, 168 new msgs in 1.9)
275 2009-11-29T21:57:40 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: maybe fix that one msg now :)
276 2009-11-29T21:58:34 <dreimark> JosefMeier: i have no idea why it hasn't worked before
277 2009-11-29T21:58:43 <eSyr> done.
278 2009-11-29T21:59:04 <eSyr> i'll revise translation because in 1.9 it was rather inconsistent.
279 2009-11-29T21:59:23 <JosefMeier> dreimark: I'm pretty sure that I have tested it. But if you have this strange behaviour again, please let me know that.
280 2009-11-29T21:59:41 * ThomasWaldmann runs 1.8 po updater
281 2009-11-29T21:59:41 <eSyr> (so, i think, this thesis applies to 1.8 also)
282 2009-11-29T22:00:20 <ThomasWaldmann> well, soon 1.8 will be outdated anyway :)
283 2009-11-29T22:01:55 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, 1.8 is still used in several distros, so it should be updated with new translations, because they are become available.
284 2009-11-29T22:02:22 <ThomasWaldmann> the stable distros won't do anything except security fixes
285 2009-11-29T22:03:23 <eSyr> anyway, 1.8 branch is still stable.
286 2009-11-29T22:16:31 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, no new strings as it seems
287 2009-11-29T22:17:19 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4422:4d670a7e3252 1.8/MoinMoin/i18n/ (5 files): updated i18n
288 2009-11-29T22:26:32 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4423:2cabbada21f4 1.8/ (9 files in 7 dirs): prepare 1.8.6 release, bump version numbers
289 2009-11-29T22:26:34 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4424:75e7f7d87d5c 1.8/MoinMoin/script/migration/ (1080500.py 1080600.py): add dummy migration script
290 2009-11-29T22:28:25 <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4425:b62463fa39ae 1.8/wiki/data/meta: bump version number in meta file
291 2009-11-29T22:30:13 * eSyr feels uncomfortable when release is prepared
292 2009-11-29T22:30:45 <ThomasWaldmann> hg tag counts :)
293 2009-11-29T22:31:54 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: can you adjust interwiki map in 1.8?
294 2009-11-29T22:32:12 <eSyr> ok.
295 2009-11-29T22:33:49 <ThomasWaldmann> then about all is done for 1.8.6, except sys pages and maybe another po file sync
296 2009-11-29T22:35:05 <eSyr> hm, maybe some patches should be backported too.
297 2009-11-29T22:35:15 <eSyr> For example, last patch with renaming.
298 2009-11-29T22:35:46 <ThomasWaldmann> only rather critical stuff
299 2009-11-29T22:36:09 <eSyr> oh, hm, this is a bug.
300 2009-11-29T22:37:41 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that one might qualify, as it fscks up big time if pagename is empty
301 2009-11-29T22:38:23 <eSyr> vandals can use this, hehe.
302 2009-11-29T22:40:13 <eSyr> interwikimap done.
303 2009-11-29T22:40:51 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, should i create FR about this patch: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/153693/ ?
304 2009-11-29T22:41:22 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, maybe safer. and put the patch there.
305 2009-11-29T22:42:06 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: does the attachment dialog also go into 1.8 ?
306 2009-11-29T22:42:56 <ThomasWaldmann> no
307 2009-11-29T22:43:14 <JosefMeier> how do you control which 1.9 stuff goes into 1.8?
308 2009-11-29T22:43:24 <ThomasWaldmann> critical stuff
309 2009-11-29T22:43:33 <ThomasWaldmann> either security or big bug
310 2009-11-29T22:45:42 <ThomasWaldmann> and I'll soon put most effort into 2.0
311 2009-11-29T22:51:45 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: So 1.8 merges rely heavily on cherry picking?
312 2009-11-29T22:52:58 <ThomasWaldmann> merging only happens in direction to higher version
313 2009-11-29T22:53:27 <ThomasWaldmann> other direction is only cherrypicking
314 2009-11-29T22:54:19 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/WikiConfigHelpCustomization
315 2009-11-29T22:54:36 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
316 2009-11-29T22:56:12 * eSyr dreams about MoinMoin community edition with integrated third-party macros, actions, themes and FRs
317 2009-11-29T22:57:01 <ThomasWaldmann> that could easily get a bad dream
318 2009-11-29T22:57:23 <ThomasWaldmann> for code, you need maintainers
319 2009-11-29T22:57:46 <ThomasWaldmann> what happens with unmaintained code you can see for docbook, rst, rss
320 2009-11-29T23:25:58 <dreimark> while all content of the highlight parser could be cached the toggle message shouldn't
321 2009-11-29T23:26:22 <ThomasWaldmann> you found the bug?
322 2009-11-29T23:29:51 *** vpv
323 2009-11-29T23:37:41 <dreimark> I have recog. it some days ago but I haven't good idea how to fix it simple
324 2009-11-29T23:39:24 <dreimark> i think we need to use GetText2
325 2009-11-29T23:40:55 *** vpv
326 2009-11-29T23:54:32 <ThomasWaldmann> http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef011570d7b1d2970c-800wi
