1 2009-11-23T00:16:09 <JosefMeier> I almost have the new dialog ready. For some reason the code is shorter now ;-)
2 2009-11-23T00:16:18 <dreimark> good
3 2009-11-23T00:26:30 <JosefMeier> Please try it out: http://s15358202.onlinehome-server.info/1.9_modified/attachtest
4 2009-11-23T00:26:45 <JosefMeier> no code review possible cause I have to adjust the translation first
5 2009-11-23T00:29:18 <CIA-34> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 458:ab5d047d3fa9 extensions/data/plugin/macro/ListPages.py: macro ListPages: lists only pages without attachments based on filter matching of rootpage.getPageList. Also if xapian is enabled.
6 2009-11-23T00:32:46 <dreimark> JosefMeier: if page does not exists you may want to clear List of attachments
7 2009-11-23T00:33:50 <dreimark> gn
8 2009-11-23T00:34:06 <JosefMeier> gn
9 2009-11-23T00:47:35 *** grzywacz
10 2009-11-23T01:01:16 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: Please try it out and give me feedback. I'd like to have this dialog (and hopefully also the new image dialog which will look similar) in RC2. Would be great.
11 2009-11-23T01:01:20 <JosefMeier> gn
12 2009-11-23T01:01:25 *** JosefMeier
13 2009-11-23T09:43:14 <dreimark> moin
14 2009-11-23T09:54:39 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
15 2009-11-23T12:15:07 *** moin3
16 2009-11-23T12:16:52 *** moin3
17 2009-11-23T12:20:23 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark Could you have a look on the "new" attachment dialog already?
18 2009-11-23T12:29:19 <ThomasWaldmann> busy with other web stuff
19 2009-11-23T12:51:04 <dreimark> where is it?
20 2009-11-23T12:56:53 <JosefMeier> dreimark: http://s15358202.onlinehome-server.info/1.9_modified/attachtest
21 2009-11-23T13:04:04 <dreimark> the ui should thomas verify, I can look at the source
22 2009-11-23T13:08:15 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: you want to keep that js popup for nonexisting pages/attachments?
23 2009-11-23T13:09:46 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: the 3rd link on the test page, why does it first show some attachments, then refreshes, then shows different attachments?
24 2009-11-23T13:11:58 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: why is the refresh button disabled?
25 2009-11-23T13:12:28 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, maybe we also want to offer some input field for the "link label"
26 2009-11-23T13:13:54 <dreimark> and when can transclusion be decided?
27 2009-11-23T14:01:42 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: transclusion is more complicated (on the html level), we can discuss that after fixing links
28 2009-11-23T16:08:28 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: isn't it not only [[attachment:example.png]] replaced to {{attachment:example.png}}
29 2009-11-23T16:09:27 <dreimark> hmm, ok, editing may be a problem
30 2009-11-23T16:24:08 <ThomasWaldmann> fckeditor edits html
31 2009-11-23T16:24:21 <ThomasWaldmann> NOT wiki markup
32 2009-11-23T16:24:30 <dreimark> recog.
33 2009-11-23T16:25:04 <ThomasWaldmann> and while a link is always pretty much the same, transclusions are implemented differently, depending on mimetype
34 2009-11-23T17:29:03 * JosefMeier is back from meeting, going home now, working on the dialog again
35 2009-11-23T17:29:17 *** JosefMeier
36 2009-11-23T18:38:57 *** JosefMeier
37 2009-11-23T18:40:36 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: When do you think RC2 will be published?
38 2009-11-23T18:46:15 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: You don't like the js popup warnings? I can automatically put some icons + a warning message on the dialog (some status line)
39 2009-11-23T18:47:17 <JosefMeier> The refresh button will be enabled, if you change the page name. This shows the user that he has to press the button if he wants attachments for that new page.
40 2009-11-23T18:48:14 <JosefMeier> For sure also here I could use a status text which appears beneath the button, if a user changes the page name
41 2009-11-23T19:08:34 *** grzywacz
42 2009-11-23T19:20:00 *** JosefMeier
43 2009-11-23T19:20:30 *** JosefMeier
44 2009-11-23T19:50:53 <ThomasWaldmann> re
45 2009-11-23T19:51:13 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: popups are annoying
46 2009-11-23T19:51:33 <JosefMeier> ok. I removed them already ;-)
47 2009-11-23T19:52:01 <ThomasWaldmann> the refresh button should be always enabled
48 2009-11-23T19:52:28 <ThomasWaldmann> a wiki is a live thing, you may want to refresh because you suspect someone else might have changed the page's attachments
49 2009-11-23T19:52:40 <ThomasWaldmann> (or because you even know that...)
50 2009-11-23T19:53:51 <ThomasWaldmann> so, don't block the user, but do stuff that needs to be done (if not too much load/wait time)
51 2009-11-23T19:54:25 <ThomasWaldmann> and the less text you need (to translate), the better
52 2009-11-23T19:55:21 <ThomasWaldmann> and you don't need status text "you have changed the page name", the user knows that, he changed it :)
53 2009-11-23T19:55:34 <JosefMeier> but from where does the user know then, that he has to press the button?
54 2009-11-23T19:55:50 <ThomasWaldmann> and if he is half ways intelligent, he might even get the idea that the lists needs refreshing after he changed the page name
55 2009-11-23T19:56:02 <JosefMeier> I wouldn't rely on that.
56 2009-11-23T19:56:26 <ThomasWaldmann> better would be to auto refresh that, but we discussed that already
57 2009-11-23T19:59:16 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: the text above the attach list could be "Attachments of page:" and right of that you display the pagename
58 2009-11-23T20:04:50 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: on my personal todo for rc2 is just one item left: clean xapian index rebuild
59 2009-11-23T20:06:07 <ThomasWaldmann> because the current method is rather ... disruptive
60 2009-11-23T20:06:41 <ThomasWaldmann> otoh, noone complained yet :D
61 2009-11-23T20:13:32 <JosefMeier> so you will release rc2 on sunday? Then I would have a chance to also get the image dialog ready. It's almost ready also.
62 2009-11-23T20:27:20 <ThomasWaldmann> first finish one thing
63 2009-11-23T20:34:13 <JosefMeier> They belong together. They are ... in a special way: siblings. No one should seperate siblings :-)
64 2009-11-23T20:35:04 <ThomasWaldmann> just do not expect we delay the release process for more and more last minute changes
65 2009-11-23T20:36:46 <JosefMeier> If it would be last minute, than I would say, that you are right :-)
66 2009-11-23T20:37:33 <JosefMeier> But I still don't know when RC2 will be published
67 2009-11-23T20:37:57 <ThomasWaldmann> in some days
68 2009-11-23T20:38:59 <JosefMeier> next weekend?
69 2009-11-23T20:40:07 <JosefMeier> a release process has determined milestones and I like the idea that I also have a chance to plan development of my stuff
70 2009-11-23T20:43:30 <ThomasWaldmann> rc means we just fix bugs. i.e. we are already beyond the point where other changes get in.
71 2009-11-23T20:44:12 <ThomasWaldmann> we can make exceptions, if we think it is worth it and we can sufficiently test it.
72 2009-11-23T20:44:41 <JosefMeier> I understand that.
73 2009-11-23T20:44:46 <ThomasWaldmann> but you should try to finish that stuff asap and not start development of even more stuff.
74 2009-11-23T20:45:33 <JosefMeier> the image dialog was almost ready. we changed the ui and added support for all mimetypes. I think, it will be good in a "some days" - 2 ;-)
75 2009-11-23T20:46:07 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if it doesn't get into 1.9.0, you'll have some more time until 1.9.1 :)
76 2009-11-23T20:48:17 <ThomasWaldmann> (.1 usually gets out rather quickly to fix the most pressing bugs that were not found in beta/rc)
77 2009-11-23T20:50:09 <JosefMeier> Yeah. But I'm a sportsman and want to get it into 1.9.0 ;-)
78 2009-11-23T20:54:51 <xorAxAx> the point of the release process is to derive a mature product
79 2009-11-23T20:55:16 <xorAxAx> and as moin is mainly doing time based releases, this means that the checkins in the last release weeks must be rock-solid
80 2009-11-23T21:00:41 <ThomasWaldmann> moin xorAxAx
81 2009-11-23T21:01:08 <xorAxAx> moin
82 2009-11-23T21:01:33 <JosefMeier> moinmoin
83 2009-11-23T21:02:56 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: 26c3?
84 2009-11-23T21:03:02 <xorAxAx> nope
85 2009-11-23T21:03:30 <ThomasWaldmann> pity
86 2009-11-23T21:29:37 <dreimark> hi xorAxAx
87 2009-11-23T21:41:49 *** JosefMeier
88 2009-11-23T21:42:26 *** JosefMeier
89 2009-11-23T22:13:02 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: Should the dialog report if a page or an attachment doesn't exist ?
90 2009-11-23T22:21:32 <JosefMeier> I'll remove all warnings except the ones if fields are empty.
91 2009-11-23T22:38:18 <JosefMeier> ThomasWaldmann: http://s15358202.onlinehome-server.info/1.9_modified/attachtest
92 2009-11-23T22:38:29 <JosefMeier> Is reduced to it's core funtionallity now
93 2009-11-23T22:40:09 <JosefMeier> http://s15358202.onlinehome-server.info/hg/moin-19-modified-clean-changesets/rev/5a6987e873b9
94 2009-11-23T22:44:55 *** grzywacz
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