1 2009-11-12T00:02:02 <dreimark> ronny: login is not neccessary but if one doesn't login how do you supress double votings?
2 2009-11-12T00:04:44 <dreimark> btw. in 2008 summer of code ideas we searched for one doing "Write something similiar to doodle a decision maker tool"
3 2009-11-12T00:05:36 <dennda> that was my idea :)
4 2009-11-12T00:07:27 <dreimark> I proposed it :)
5 2009-11-12T00:10:21 <dreimark> dennda: the stuff you worked then on is much more important
6 2009-11-12T00:18:18 <dreimark> gn
7 2009-11-12T00:19:22 <ronny> dreimark: its more like people listing themself for going to the events
8 2009-11-12T08:21:12 *** eSyr
9 2009-11-12T09:57:09 <dreimark> ronny: then you need only a wiki page
10 2009-11-12T09:59:29 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
11 2009-11-12T10:04:59 <dreimark> moin
12 2009-11-12T10:17:13 <ronny> dreimark: well, i dont get how i would add a subscription form that doesnt expose the data to externals, i have not even the slightest idea how to do
13 2009-11-12T10:24:36 <dreimark> ronny: you have a form which calls an action. this action writes by an internal username to a page
14 2009-11-12T10:25:14 <ronny> dreimark: ah, i see
15 2009-11-12T10:25:25 <dreimark> this page has acls which allows the internal user to write on that page but don't be readable for everyone
16 2009-11-12T10:25:44 <ronny> dreimark: are there any examples for doing that?
17 2009-11-12T10:26:30 <dreimark> yes, I have some, will post them later, currently I have an ubuntu reboot problem
18 2009-11-12T10:27:00 <ronny> i see, thanks in advance
19 2009-11-12T10:48:02 <eSyr> Hm, i don't want to be annoying, but can anoyone fix http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/diff/MoinMoinBugs/GetText2CantHandleNamedFormats ?
20 2009-11-12T11:51:09 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: hi. is that broken in 1.8 also?
21 2009-11-12T11:55:26 <eSyr> Yes, i think; i'm checking it now.
22 2009-11-12T11:57:55 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, yes, see http://testsys.lorien.cs.msu.su/wiki/Test , http://testsys.lorien.cs.msu.su/wiki/Test?action=raw
23 2009-11-12T12:01:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so it needs to get fixed in 1.8 (and then merged into 1.9)
24 2009-11-12T12:01:50 <eSyr> Great, thanks.
25 2009-11-12T12:01:53 <ThomasWaldmann> if we touch that code anyway, can you make it a bit prettier?
26 2009-11-12T12:02:04 <ThomasWaldmann> i.e. less duplication
27 2009-11-12T12:02:12 <eSyr> yes.
28 2009-11-12T12:07:50 <ThomasWaldmann> that bug had a long life :)
29 2009-11-12T12:09:53 <eSyr> well, I've updated patch on a bug page
30 2009-11-12T12:12:49 <ThomasWaldmann> you're fast. :)
31 2009-11-12T12:13:10 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I'll apply your patch to 1.8.
32 2009-11-12T12:13:15 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks!
33 2009-11-12T12:18:05 <eSyr> It still fail on format errors (missed format, for example), but works on right arguments, at least :)
34 2009-11-12T12:42:48 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: http://pastebin.com/f3c55db59
35 2009-11-12T12:47:22 <eSyr> Looks great.
36 2009-11-12T12:48:17 <ThomasWaldmann> may I add your name to the (c) there?
37 2009-11-12T12:50:38 <eSyr> Yes, if you want.
38 2009-11-12T12:51:32 <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4420:d78c35783dd8 1.8/MoinMoin/macro/GetText2.py: GetText2 macro: fix for named placeholders, cleanup code
39 2009-11-12T12:53:33 <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5274:c3b272d83749 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/GetText2.py: merged moin/1.8
40 2009-11-12T12:54:59 <ThomasWaldmann> should work now on (master18./master19.)moinmo.in
41 2009-11-12T12:56:40 <eSyr> yes, thanks!
42 2009-11-12T13:13:27 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann, is anyone intrested in backport of SlideShow action to 1.7/1.8? I've done it for 1.7 and will do for 1.8 in near future, but my hacks need cleanup.
43 2009-11-12T13:17:49 <ThomasWaldmann> do you mean single page slideshow?
44 2009-11-12T13:18:40 <eSyr> yes.
45 2009-11-12T13:19:33 <ThomasWaldmann> well, for 1.7 I suggest you put it onto the related wiki page / market page
46 2009-11-12T13:20:01 <ThomasWaldmann> (there won't be changes to 1.7 any more, except critical security stuff)
47 2009-11-12T13:21:08 <ThomasWaldmann> for 1.8 you could do the same and we can think about whether we also put it into next 1.8 release
48 2009-11-12T13:22:05 <eSyr> ok.
49 2009-11-12T13:25:00 <ThomasWaldmann> after 1.9 is released, 1.8 will also likely only get important updates
50 2009-11-12T13:27:16 <eSyr> Oh. When 1.9 release is planned?
51 2009-11-12T13:31:34 <ThomasWaldmann> it is overdue, but i want to have a look at the xapian locking/stemming before the release
52 2009-11-12T13:31:58 <eSyr> thanks.
53 2009-11-12T13:32:33 <eSyr> Can anoyne tell, how pages like LanguageSetup and SystemInfo should be translated?
54 2009-11-12T13:32:52 <ThomasWaldmann> likely not at all
55 2009-11-12T13:33:46 <eSyr> hm.
56 2009-11-12T13:34:03 <ThomasWaldmann> for LanguageSetup it is definitely not to be translated, because that page is the only page that is there at the beginning
57 2009-11-12T13:34:22 <ThomasWaldmann> and from there you unpack the language packs
58 2009-11-12T13:35:19 <ThomasWaldmann> SystemInfo could be translated, but it is rather pointless, because it is just that macro
59 2009-11-12T13:35:28 <eSyr> i mean, is there any mechanism to place content in several languages on one page?
60 2009-11-12T13:35:58 <ThomasWaldmann> not really
61 2009-11-12T13:37:33 <eSyr> :(
62 2009-11-12T13:38:07 <ThomasWaldmann> well, see it like this: it i usually an admin or geek who uses that page
63 2009-11-12T13:38:18 <ThomasWaldmann> so english should be ok for that
64 2009-11-12T13:39:43 <eSyr> heh, my goal is to make moinmoin available to ainstall and use for anyone (at least, anyone who want it and doesn't know English).
65 2009-11-12T13:40:04 <ThomasWaldmann> (and you need to be superuser anyway to use the page packs installer)
66 2009-11-12T13:41:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, i understand that, but priorities should be:
67 2009-11-12T13:41:53 <ThomasWaldmann> 1. have it usable for non-english USERS (-> user help/sys pages, user interface)
68 2009-11-12T13:42:23 <ThomasWaldmann> 2. have it installable for non-english ADMINs (-> install docs etc.)
69 2009-11-12T13:43:03 <ThomasWaldmann> also, workload for translation has to be considered
70 2009-11-12T13:43:38 <ThomasWaldmann> you did a lot of work on the ru translation, but you maybe have noticed that not all translators are working that much
71 2009-11-12T13:44:08 <eSyr> Well, I have some time and I've intrested in it.
72 2009-11-12T13:44:23 <ThomasWaldmann> so stuff tends to get outdated. and an outdated install doc is much worse than just an english one.
73 2009-11-12T13:44:56 <ThomasWaldmann> also, we are quite heavily changing moin these days
74 2009-11-12T13:45:08 <ThomasWaldmann> 1.9 has quite different installation due to wsgi
75 2009-11-12T13:45:17 <eSyr> yes, i've noticed.
76 2009-11-12T13:45:25 <ThomasWaldmann> in 2.0, much stuff will be very different
77 2009-11-12T13:45:49 <ThomasWaldmann> so, to summarize: there will be enough work, even when not translating the admin stuff :)
78 2009-11-12T13:48:36 <eSyr> yes, i've understood.
79 2009-11-12T13:49:05 <dreimark> eSyr: the SlideShow is currently in the extension repo compatible for 1.7/1.8 e.g. http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions/file/c1ce8d0fec5d/data/plugin/action/SlideShow.py
80 2009-11-12T13:50:42 <eSyr> uhoh.
81 2009-11-12T13:52:25 <eSyr> dreimark, thanks.
82 2009-11-12T13:52:27 <dreimark> you also need http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/extensions/file/c1ce8d0fec5d/htdocs/SlideShow/css/SlideShow.css in the theme
83 2009-11-12T13:52:31 <dreimark> you want to use it
84 2009-11-12T13:52:58 <eSyr> yes, i know.
85 2009-11-12T15:07:02 *** eSyr
86 2009-11-12T19:25:02 *** lotekthirteen
87 2009-11-12T19:52:46 *** waldi__
88 2009-11-12T20:43:26 *** lotekthirteen
89 2009-11-12T21:01:24 <dreimark> ronny: in principle it is something like http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele#Mit_einer_Action_POST_oder_GET_Parameter_verarbeiten
90 2009-11-12T21:03:24 <dreimark> if you create the result page beforehand with an acl line e.g. Username:read,write All:
91 2009-11-12T21:03:59 <dreimark> then you have to add that line to the page
92 2009-11-12T21:04:35 <dreimark> the script must temporary change the user to Username while executing PageEditor(request, pagename).saveText(newtext, 0)
93 2009-11-12T21:09:19 <dreimark> that example is currently for 1.8
94 2009-11-12T21:09:39 <dreimark> I have to refactor all the plugin stuff on that page for 1.9
95 2009-11-12T21:12:10 <dreimark> userprefs.suid shows how to switch a user
96 2009-11-12T21:18:23 *** franklin1
97 2009-11-12T21:35:36 *** franklin_
98 2009-11-12T22:10:10 *** grzywacz
99 2009-11-12T23:23:05 <dreimark> gn