MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-09-22

2009-09-22T00:00:01  <dreimark> I see this many times during index building
2009-09-22T00:00:31  <dreimark> ah ok, it does this for all the search macros
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2009-09-22T08:32:02  <dreimark> moin
2009-09-22T09:08:43  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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2009-09-22T11:22:48  <CIA-34> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5161:d751e9807213 1.9/MoinMoin/ (action/AttachFile.py config/multiconfig.py): Introduced a new config var "extensions_mapping". You can set up a mapping of attachment extensions to actions. By the drawing syntax these actions are called for the given target.
2009-09-22T11:26:54  <CIA-34> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 425:cb407ef26818 extensions/data/plugin/action/SvgEditor.py: action.svgEditor: updated to be compatible with t/anywikidraw
2009-09-22T11:26:56  <CIA-34> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 426:2800dd19d154 extensions/data/plugin/action/SvgEditor.py: action.SvgEditor: wrong filename for logentry fixed
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2009-09-22T20:52:13  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: someone just asked in #launchpad if it was possible to use their translation tool on moinmoin
2009-09-22T20:52:36  <ThomasWaldmann> for?
2009-09-22T20:54:17  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: should be in #moin, too
2009-09-22T20:56:38  <ronny> bbl, getting my train
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2009-09-22T21:44:40  <dreimark> looks like we have to extend strings for InstallDocs
2009-09-22T22:01:45  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: do you guys currently handle translations?
2009-09-22T22:07:59  <ThomasWaldmann> yes we handle it
2009-09-22T22:46:58  <dreimark> http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/ nice ie plugin
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2009-09-22T23:32:26  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: ops eh + how
2009-09-22T23:35:37  <ThomasWaldmann> if you ask some understandable questions, you might get better answers
2009-09-22T23:36:12  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: how do you currently manage message translations in .po files
2009-09-22T23:38:06  <ThomasWaldmann> see i18n/Makefile -> make update-po
2009-09-22T23:38:42  <ThomasWaldmann> (pulls stuff from master wiki, merges new stuff into it, puts it back to master wiki)
2009-09-22T23:39:10  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: so message translations are managed via wiki pages?
2009-09-22T23:39:40  <ronny> is there at least some buildin support to do it nicely? or is it editing plain text message catalogs?
2009-09-22T23:40:08  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2009-09-22T23:40:16  <ronny> yes for what?
2009-09-22T23:40:34  <ThomasWaldmann> it is plain editor, but a parser that shows untranslated stuff
2009-09-22T23:40:46  <ronny> ew
2009-09-22T23:40:55  <ronny> then is a lot of pain on translators
2009-09-22T23:41:09  <ThomasWaldmann> it is the minimum you need
2009-09-22T23:41:25  <ThomasWaldmann> but not less
2009-09-22T23:41:46  <ronny> well, stuff like the launchpat service or transifex are a lot more comfortable on translators (nice statistics, and other fun)
2009-09-22T23:41:59  <ronny> -r+d
2009-09-22T23:42:13  <ronny> hmm, it seems i really need to drop into a bed
2009-09-22T23:43:20  <ThomasWaldmann> is there also something USEFUL?
2009-09-22T23:44:12  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: transifex and the launchpad thing are pretty good at helping translators
2009-09-22T23:44:25  <ThomasWaldmann> how?
2009-09-22T23:44:28  <dreimark> ronny: can it be used for http://master19.moinmo.in/FrontPage?action=CheckTranslation
2009-09-22T23:46:01  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: they are designed to help translators translating message catalogs
2009-09-22T23:46:13  <ronny> casue its a freaking pain to do that on plain text
2009-09-22T23:46:43  <ThomasWaldmann> is there some facts list?
2009-09-22T23:46:44  <ronny> dreimark: i dont understand that listing
2009-09-22T23:47:45  <dreimark> http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/de
2009-09-22T23:47:54  <dreimark> e.g. 1471: msgid "HelpOnConfiguration"
2009-09-22T23:48:49  <dreimark> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/CheckTranslation/MoinI18n/de?action=CheckTranslation&pageset=all_pages&language=de
2009-09-22T23:49:06  <ronny> ok, thats basically editing a really large textfile with a in-browser editor
2009-09-22T23:49:16  <dreimark> gives the mapping HelpOnConfiguration/
2009-09-22T23:49:18  <dreimark> 11081 ThomasWaldmann 2009-03-29 20:45:17 HilfeZurKonfiguration
2009-09-22T23:49:36  <dreimark> gives the mapping HelpOnConfiguration/HilfeZurKonfiguration
2009-09-22T23:50:17  <dreimark> the pagename is given from the translation of the msg string
2009-09-22T23:51:06  <ronny> ok, i think i partially get that
2009-09-22T23:51:16  <dreimark> if a translator changes these page names then the pagenames mustbe changed on the wiki too
2009-09-22T23:51:34  <ronny> so the checktranslation action crosschecks consistency
2009-09-22T23:51:57  <ronny> it still would make sense to build a more user-friendly editor for the message catalogs
2009-09-22T23:52:02  <dreimark> yes and also makes a selection for different page packs
2009-09-22T23:52:19  <ronny> i wonder what can be done there
2009-09-22T23:52:26  <ronny> i'll reevaluate later this week