MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-07-26

2009-07-26T00:45:52  <dreimark> dimazest: http://moinmo.in/Xapian2009/API Changes
2009-07-26T00:46:12  <dreimark> please add the part for xappy
2009-07-26T00:46:33  <dreimark> and check if I've missed one
2009-07-26T00:49:03  <dreimark> if that is completed the next step is to write xappy database part
2009-07-26T01:12:18  <dreimark> gn
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2009-07-26T06:04:08  <CIA-43> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6389:b2c32e1e9a1b 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/ (180 files in 41 dirs): merge 2.0-storage
2009-07-26T06:04:09  <CIA-43> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6390:52454b55c414 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Real-time editor: Hide editor on lock.
2009-07-26T07:51:43  <CIA-43> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6391:65244e5a1490 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Real-time editor: Renew lock periodically.
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2009-07-26T08:56:45  <CIA-43> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 6392:5b0d139a5430 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/common/js/text_editor.js: Real-time editor: stop renewing lock on connection error.
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2009-07-26T09:18:42  <CIA-43> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4904:c88234489140 1.9/MoinMoin/action/language_setup.py: action language_setup: fixed action name
2009-07-26T09:37:53  <dreimark> http://code.google.com/p/reimport/ sounds interesting
2009-07-26T09:50:20  <dreimark> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2008/12/using-modwsgi-when-developing-django.html
2009-07-26T09:53:46  <dreimark> amartani: do you have talked about werkzeug with mitsuhiko?
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2009-07-26T10:49:13  <PawelPacana> moin
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2009-07-26T11:08:14  <PawelPacana> i'll be mostly offline until August
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2009-07-26T11:35:26  <ThomasWaldmann> re
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2009-07-26T12:30:07  <dreimark> moin
2009-07-26T12:58:31  <PawelPacana> i've managed to find rev in which tests broke (searching wrong directories)
2009-07-26T12:59:11  <PawelPacana> see 5694 and 5695 in 2.0-storage
2009-07-26T12:59:23  <ThomasWaldmann> PawelPacana: which tests do you mean?
2009-07-26T13:01:14  <ThomasWaldmann> and please give revision hashes or urls
2009-07-26T13:03:14  <PawelPacana> uhm: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-07-22, around 12:48
2009-07-26T13:03:50  <PawelPacana> 5695:c438c826c8e6
2009-07-26T13:05:34  <PawelPacana> now that 'tests' directory is gone, i don't even know what to do with it, so i leave it
2009-07-26T13:05:38  <PawelPacana> gtg
2009-07-26T13:45:01  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I assume he teels from the tests dir at the wrong path
2009-07-26T13:45:08  <dreimark> s/teels/tells/
2009-07-26T14:13:10  <dreimark> dimazest: ping
2009-07-26T14:17:54  <dimazest> dreimark: pong
2009-07-26T14:18:19  <dimazest> dreimark: i edit xapian api page
2009-07-26T14:18:21  <dreimark> dimazest: do you have seen http://moinmo.in/Xapian2009/API Changes ?
2009-07-26T14:18:25  <dreimark> ok
2009-07-26T14:19:12  <dimazest> is it possible to put {{{ ... }}} inside a table?
2009-07-26T14:19:26  <dreimark> only with include
2009-07-26T14:19:49  <dreimark> <<Include(/fooPage)>>
2009-07-26T14:19:57  <waldi> i think my parser supports it
2009-07-26T14:20:05  <dreimark> and on /foopage the parser
2009-07-26T14:20:10  <dreimark> waldi: :)
2009-07-26T14:21:00  <dreimark> amartani: can it be made possible to see on RC or the page I am reading that one just edits it (without me doing so)
2009-07-26T16:17:19  <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: does mobwrite have some "read-only mode" where you see updates from other editors, but can't edit yourself?
2009-07-26T16:24:32  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: no, but I think it shouldn't be too hard to do.
2009-07-26T16:28:31  <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: that might be funny or even useful for show action :)
2009-07-26T16:30:23  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, no, not really (at least not for content area), because it is not rendered
2009-07-26T16:31:14  <ThomasWaldmann> but one could get the editor list and show "changes are happening" somehow, while showing the rendered view of the content
2009-07-26T16:31:59  <ThomasWaldmann> or even render the current mobwrite content? X)
2009-07-26T16:32:37  <amartani> dreimark: It can be done. On RC I think it is not good, if there is too much pages being edited.
2009-07-26T16:33:40  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: Would be a bit heavy on bandwidth, if the page is big.
2009-07-26T16:39:00  <amartani> and render something unsaved makes me a bit worried, like, everything I'm typing can be show to the visitor before I give my last review.
2009-07-26T16:40:32  <amartani> and, if it is to show the content while editing, we could save the contents on every change also.
2009-07-26T16:43:15  <amartani> and about the EOFErrors, I asked on #pocoo, and damjan answered.
2009-07-26T16:44:53  <amartani> the error is raised by cPickle.load, so it is probably trying to load a file which was not closed before.
2009-07-26T16:47:50  <dreimark> amartani: it is enough when the page gets an indicator
2009-07-26T17:04:46  <dreimark> dimazest: I think the next step is to define a module for the field structure and then populate the database
2009-07-26T17:08:23  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: I need to rethink the semantic vs. style usage in the internal tree structure. I did a bad decision by mixing them lately
2009-07-26T17:09:05  <dreimark> waldi: me got a feature request / macro by mail about the kbd html tag
2009-07-26T17:10:27  <waldi> dreimark: what should it do?
2009-07-26T17:11:10  <dreimark> <kbd>CTRL</kbd> and some css for .kbd makes it looking kile a keyboard key in a description
2009-07-26T17:11:20  <dreimark> s/kile/like/
2009-07-26T17:11:40  <ThomasWaldmann> what html standard is that?
2009-07-26T17:11:42  <dreimark> the question is if we can invent some markup for it
2009-07-26T17:11:46  <dreimark> 4.0.1
2009-07-26T17:11:54  * dreimark was surprised too
2009-07-26T17:12:28  <dreimark> http://de.selfhtml.org/html/text/logisch.htm
2009-07-26T17:12:35  <waldi> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#edef-KBD
2009-07-26T17:13:09  <waldi> dreimark: we should then introduce support for all the listed tags at once
2009-07-26T17:14:38  <waldi> dreimark: the problem: "Indicates text to be entered by the user.", so making it look like a keyboard key is not appropriate
2009-07-26T17:15:23  <dimazest> dreimark: ok, btw it seems that now stemming may be done internally in the xapian (if the language parameter is provided)
2009-07-26T17:15:48  <dreimark> waldi: yes, but that is a decision forwareded to the theme (css)
2009-07-26T17:16:38  <dreimark> dimazest: good news
2009-07-26T17:17:10  <dreimark> how long do you think it takes to build the database? 2 days with some external tests scripts?
2009-07-26T17:17:20  <dreimark> I mean the coding for it
2009-07-26T17:17:26  <waldi> dreimark: yeah
2009-07-26T17:18:54  <dreimark> waldi: adding all is fine. at some point we need more keys on the keyboard
2009-07-26T17:18:55  <dimazest> 2 days should be enough, i think we should think more on structure of the database, may be use facets and other features
2009-07-26T17:20:59  <dreimark> dimazest: please add a list of features we can use in 1.0.7 of xapian and which were only useable by newer xapian/xappy versions
2009-07-26T17:21:04  <dreimark> to the api page
2009-07-26T17:21:33  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: there are two options left: own namespace or css, the later is more advanced, but needs more processing as the styles are ordered
2009-07-26T17:21:45  <dreimark> dennda: how can we figure what or when xappy becomes an update to a newer version in ubuntu?
2009-07-26T17:23:01  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: please a simple implementation at the beginning
2009-07-26T17:24:02  <dreimark> dimazest: yes I also think we should keep the 1.07. dependent simple structure and add plans for improving it.
2009-07-26T17:24:48  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: i have no exact idea what you are talking about
2009-07-26T17:25:46  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: kbd etc. will have to wait for/after 2.0 / dom
2009-07-26T17:25:50  <dreimark> dimazest: if a simple implementation can be done in 1.9 I would prefer that mostly. It speaks nothing against it if we have time left at the end to improve it in 2.0-storage
2009-07-26T17:25:53  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes
2009-07-26T17:27:35  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: dimazest: goal for 1.9 is to have stuff working as it did before, but based on xappy. and while doing that, optimize it to give better results ordering.
2009-07-26T17:28:27  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: agreed
2009-07-26T17:28:37  <ThomasWaldmann> also, xapian is optimized for yielding some few high weight search results rather fast. I am not sure we exploit that yet.
2009-07-26T17:29:40  <dreimark> dimazest: ThomasWaldmann we should have a new 1.9 xappy repo
2009-07-26T17:33:05  <dennda> dreimark: by nagging a motu (assuming it's not in main)
2009-07-26T17:34:25  <dennda> apt-cache show or aptitude show shows you who the maintainer is
2009-07-26T17:35:43  <dreimark> :)
2009-07-26T17:39:04  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann waldi dennda dimazest amartani meeting in 21 mins
2009-07-26T17:39:23  * dimazest forgot about it
2009-07-26T17:56:40  <ThomasWaldmann> anyone in a hurry who wants to be first?
2009-07-26T17:57:46  <dennda> well
2009-07-26T17:57:53  <dennda> I would :-)
2009-07-26T17:58:12  <dreimark> 2 mins left
2009-07-26T17:58:32  <dennda> not in a "i need to leave this building"-hurry-sense tho
2009-07-26T17:58:47  <ThomasWaldmann> our meeting will start at 1600 UTC and dennda will be first.
2009-07-26T18:00:59  <dennda> NB: As already discussed at our last meeting I'm currently less active due to my exams. These will be finished on thursday, though.
2009-07-26T18:01:02  <dennda> LAST: Added tell() (and item.next_revno), membackend implementation, tests. Improved inter-backend renames (items now copied directly to new name).
2009-07-26T18:01:05  <dennda> Removed some XXX. Looked at syspages. Defined constants and provided a converted underlay.xml version that we will provide instead of underlay.tar.
2009-07-26T18:01:08  <dennda> NEXT: Finish syspages / acls.
2009-07-26T18:01:11  <dennda> BLOCKERS: None.
2009-07-26T18:02:41  <ThomasWaldmann> next means thu,fri,sat?
2009-07-26T18:03:06  <dennda> +sun
2009-07-26T18:03:43  <dennda> .oO(unless my bucklige verwandschaft rueckt ploetzlich an zum kaffe trinken)
2009-07-26T18:03:55  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks. next one please. amartani?
2009-07-26T18:04:09  <xorAxAx> hi
2009-07-26T18:04:18  <amartani> LAST: saving without exiting editor and show last save on simple editor. rewrite item lock to support multiple editors and suggest using mobwrite.
2009-07-26T18:04:59  <amartani> NEXT: decide and implement needed preferences, text highlighting (not sure how difficult this can be)
2009-07-26T18:05:05  <amartani> BLOCKERS: need code review
2009-07-26T18:05:06  <ThomasWaldmann> what does "and suggest using mobwrite" mean?
2009-07-26T18:06:15  <dennda> "this page is currently being edited by joe, would you like to collaborate?"
2009-07-26T18:06:22  <dennda> (i guess)
2009-07-26T18:06:23  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: messages like "This page is opened for editing by 3 users. You can use enable sharing button to join a synchronized editing session."
2009-07-26T18:06:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, great :)
2009-07-26T18:07:09  <dreimark> otherwise it means it blocks the new one for editing without mobwrite?
2009-07-26T18:07:14  <ThomasWaldmann> amartani: your mentor should review your code. why is this a blocker?
2009-07-26T18:07:55  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: Well, I don't know if I'm doing some things the right way..
2009-07-26T18:08:18  <waldi> amartani: well, then ask
2009-07-26T18:08:32  <xorAxAx> i am also currently doing a code review
2009-07-26T18:08:38  <xorAxAx> of his code
2009-07-26T18:08:45  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, great. :)
2009-07-26T18:08:47  <amartani> dreimark: Currently, I blocked it only then edit_locking is "lock" (on configuration)
2009-07-26T18:09:12  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, specific review questions after the official part please.
2009-07-26T18:09:48  <amartani> perhaps disabling mobwrite completely on this case would be better
2009-07-26T18:10:00  <dreimark> ok we can talk on this later too
2009-07-26T18:10:03  <ThomasWaldmann> any other short question for amartani / waldi ?
2009-07-26T18:11:00  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks amartani / waldi. next is dimazest / dreimark.
2009-07-26T18:11:03  <amartani> xorAxAx: thanks
2009-07-26T18:13:38  <dreimark> dimazest: ping
2009-07-26T18:13:47  <dimazest> LAST: some minor changes for the groups/dicts code. Studied MoinMoin.search code. Read xappy, xapwrap documentation.
2009-07-26T18:13:50  <dimazest> NEXT: Implement simple index building using xappy.
2009-07-26T18:13:53  <dimazest> BLOCKERS:
2009-07-26T18:15:21  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: maybe you can tell a bit more about your results. I have the impression it is rather going slowly currently, so if we can help, we need some questions from you.
2009-07-26T18:15:52  <dimazest> yes it is going slowly
2009-07-26T18:16:14  <ThomasWaldmann> (maybe we can do the details later and first short questions)
2009-07-26T18:16:30  <dimazest> ok
2009-07-26T18:16:43  <dimazest> yes it is better to discuss it later
2009-07-26T18:17:06  <ThomasWaldmann> (and building an index should not take a week, IMHO)
2009-07-26T18:17:19  <ThomasWaldmann> except if you have really much data :D
2009-07-26T18:17:52  <dreimark> no we have discussed this to need two days with new test code
2009-07-26T18:18:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, any short questions about xapian search refactoring/improvements?
2009-07-26T18:19:22  <dimazest> moin as undrstand does stemming i think it can be postponed
2009-07-26T18:19:54  <dimazest> and i do not know how to use prefixMap
2009-07-26T18:20:43  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc it is just some sort of abbreviating keys
2009-07-26T18:21:25  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, if there are no more short questions, the official part is over and we continue with chatting about the more detailed stuff.
2009-07-26T18:21:44  <dreimark> ok
2009-07-26T18:22:05  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: about stemming: this is a tricky problem and you need language metadata to do it correctly
2009-07-26T18:22:24  <ThomasWaldmann> 1.9 has #lang en (or so)
2009-07-26T18:22:29  <dreimark> I think prefixMap could be added on the same level than indexValueMap
2009-07-26T18:22:35  <ThomasWaldmann> 2.0 will have a similar metadata item
2009-07-26T18:23:00  <ThomasWaldmann> but that stuff is of limited usefulness if you have mixed language pages
2009-07-26T18:23:45  <ThomasWaldmann> also, the search queries the user enters are of unkown language iirc
2009-07-26T18:24:39  <dimazest> language can be set for every document, i wrote how to do it on a wiki page
2009-07-26T18:25:00  <dimazest> probably, xapian cares about this internally
2009-07-26T18:26:20  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda:     1.10 +            if not k == SYSPAGE_VERSION:   <-- can you please and finally stop this sort of crap?
2009-07-26T18:28:03  <dreimark> dimazest: http://xapian.org/docs/omega/termprefixes.html
2009-07-26T18:30:08  <dennda> well yeah sorry
2009-07-26T18:30:41  <dennda> I do wonder though what it's about. Certainly not about saving 4 chars... is that defined in some styleguide for consistency?
2009-07-26T18:31:08  <dimazest> dreimark: if i create field 'title' does it have prefix?
2009-07-26T18:31:38  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: you are doing 2 operations instead of just choosing the right operator
2009-07-26T18:31:54  <dreimark> dimazest: withou querying from xapian I am not sure now
2009-07-26T18:32:03  <dreimark> because of the documentations of xappy
2009-07-26T18:32:06  <dreimark>  Xapian provides a low level interface, dealing with terms and documents, but not really worrying about where terms come from, or how to build searches to match the way in which data has been indexed. I
2009-07-26T18:32:09  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: ok, ic. valid technical argument
2009-07-26T18:32:32  <dreimark> dimazest:  In contrast, Xappy allows you to design a field structure, specifying what kind of information is held in particular fields, and then uses this field structure to index data appropriately, and to build and perform searches
2009-07-26T18:33:08  <dreimark> I think that means you have to setup the field structure with the prefixmap too
2009-07-26T18:34:05  <dimazest> dreimark: the question is how, because it is not described in the documentaion
2009-07-26T18:35:15  <dreimark> conn.add_field_action('category', xappy.FieldActions.SORTABLE)
2009-07-26T18:35:30  <dreimark> instead of category then author
2009-07-26T18:37:14  <dimazest> i have not understood
2009-07-26T18:39:18  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: btw, if you have the definite impression that xappy docs is missing some stuff (and not just that it is not needed, because it does it internally and automatically), you can read the xappy src code, look into flax src code or ask richard boulton or other folks on #xapian.
2009-07-26T18:40:18  <dreimark> xapian and also the ml has extremly less activity
2009-07-26T18:42:31  <dreimark> dimazest: I think the datastructure for termprefixes needs to be similiar added as for indexvalue
2009-07-26T18:43:06  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: i do read xappy code
2009-07-26T18:44:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2009-07-26T18:45:26  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: btw there is some code repition in search.Xapian
2009-07-26T18:45:53  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, please read and follow the hints about thread-(non)safety in the xappy docs
2009-07-26T18:46:19  <dimazest> e.g. in _index_page and index_page_rev
2009-07-26T18:47:06  <dreimark> dimazest: see indexerconnection_doctest3.txt
2009-07-26T18:47:25  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
2009-07-26T18:47:27  <dimazest> _index_file also very similar. was there any reason to do so?
2009-07-26T18:49:14  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130900/
2009-07-26T18:51:12  <dimazest> dreimark: so we need to do something like .add_term('title', 'S') ?
2009-07-26T18:52:52  <dreimark> I think so
2009-07-26T18:56:39  <dreimark> dimazest: I don't understand the question about _index_file to what is it similiar?
2009-07-26T18:57:36  <dimazest> to _index_page_rev, _index_page
2009-07-26T19:04:21  <dreimark> I guess there is no special reason for this just missing optimisation
2009-07-26T19:06:17  <dreimark> _index_file and _index_page distinguishing will go in 2.0 and *_rev also because all items will have revisions
2009-07-26T19:06:47  <dimazest> good
2009-07-26T19:07:25  <dreimark> one _index_item with keeping limitations of 1.9 would be good (then the limitations could be removed in 2.0)
2009-07-26T19:08:02  <dimazest> then it worth not to change code too much
2009-07-26T19:08:16  <dimazest> if it go away
2009-07-26T19:08:21  <dimazest> *goes
2009-07-26T19:09:58  <dreimark> the main goal currently should be to replace xapwrap by xappy and fix the sorting
2009-07-26T19:10:20  <dreimark> refactoring other stuff could be done later in 2.0
2009-07-26T19:12:15  <dreimark> (and we have to provide in 1.9 the same functionality or quite the same as we have had with xapwrap)
2009-07-26T19:14:02  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: dimazest: moin/1.9-xapian-dmilajevs?
2009-07-26T19:15:41  <dreimark> :)
2009-07-26T19:19:41  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i take this as a yes
2009-07-26T19:20:10  <ThomasWaldmann> please clone the repo from hg.moinmo.in
2009-07-26T19:23:30  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: _index_file and _index_page_rev are not quite the same
2009-07-26T19:23:51  <ThomasWaldmann> the first expects just a simple filesystem file
2009-07-26T19:25:22  <ThomasWaldmann> (these files come from a special hack I did: you can just additionally index a list of files from the server filesystem, they are not data/pages/* files, but just e.g. your samba document share)
2009-07-26T19:26:53  <ThomasWaldmann> they are indexed in a way that moin tells that they are found at FS/... "pseudo page" (which relates to another hack I did, "mounting" those files at FS/ into the wiki namespace)
2009-07-26T19:27:29  <ThomasWaldmann> with 2.0, those hacks will be official features, implemented by the router and fileserver backends
2009-07-26T19:29:51  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: thanks for the repo
2009-07-26T19:37:55  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: where is that feature documented?
2009-07-26T19:47:11  <ThomasWaldmann> that's unofficial :)
2009-07-26T19:47:26  <dimazest> :))))
2009-07-26T19:53:10  <ThomasWaldmann> (and without some crappy and never published code in Page/PageEditor you can't fully use it)
2009-07-26T19:55:25  <dreimark> he
2009-07-26T20:01:46  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: xappy has to go into MoinMoin/support/
2009-07-26T20:02:31  <ThomasWaldmann> (as long as most distributions do not provide some reasonable package for it)
2009-07-26T20:15:31  <ronny> why not offload that to the distros?
2009-07-26T20:15:59  <ronny> (i mean i can understand bundleing it for win32, but the distros should just get their act together)
2009-07-26T20:17:23  <dreimark> we can do this in parallel but for now we need it working for developing
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2009-07-26T20:24:45  <ronny> dreimark: as far as i understand its nothing virtualenv+pip or an own pythonpath can't fix for development
2009-07-26T20:27:54  <ronny> in pida we solve it by a simple shell script that just sets up the external deps in a subdir
2009-07-26T20:38:20  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: it doesn't help in a special way for windows. but it helps for linux, because it just works
2009-07-26T20:39:11  <ronny> k
2009-07-26T20:39:45  <ThomasWaldmann> s/for linux/in general/
2009-07-26T20:41:33  <ThomasWaldmann> (and as soon dists do not only provide xapian libs and python bindings, but also xappy, we can remove it again)
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2009-07-26T20:55:46  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6283:b52da5910086 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: image items: let PIL directly load from revision object (now has all file-like methods needed)
2009-07-26T20:59:53  <dreimark> cool
2009-07-26T21:31:14  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6284:3fad3398177e 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/ (__init__.py sendcache.py): image items: let PIL directly save to cache.data_cache object
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2009-07-26T22:03:32  * ThomasWaldmann looks at group formatter and creole in mm20
2009-07-26T22:15:44  *** dimazest_ is now known as dimazest
2009-07-26T22:18:33  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6285:4e9dd587d5c8 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/formatter/_tests/test_groups.py: group formatter: skip creole tests, can't work right now
2009-07-26T23:07:45  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4914:4ee70cfce201 1.9/ (60 files in 14 dirs): merged moin/1.8
2009-07-26T23:07:48  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4915:f3413022dae9 1.9/MoinMoin/action/language_setup.py: merged main
2009-07-26T23:14:16  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6298:6cd62e9ad038 2.0-storage/ (58 files in 13 dirs): merged moin/1.9
2009-07-26T23:25:43  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: about openid merge. do we need some doc changes for that?
2009-07-26T23:27:49  <ThomasWaldmann> he put some stuff into changes and there is a page on the mm wiki
2009-07-26T23:27:57  <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/language_setup/LanguageSetup?action=language_setup
2009-07-26T23:28:09  <ThomasWaldmann> shouldn't that show a language selection?
2009-07-26T23:28:30  <dreimark> only if you have attachments if languages
2009-07-26T23:28:36  <dreimark> s/if/of/
2009-07-26T23:28:55  <dreimark> if there is no lang pack it doesn't show a list
2009-07-26T23:30:08  <dreimark> (and u need to be superuser)
2009-07-26T23:31:48  <CIA-43> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4916:5e9a7dd1612b 1.9/docs/ (CHANGES CHANGES.openid): merged CHANGES.openid into main CHANGES document
2009-07-26T23:32:05  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: but it still shows the table
2009-07-26T23:32:51  <dreimark> ok, there should be a line Choose: similiar to the CheckTranslation
2009-07-26T23:34:02  <dreimark> Choose: Brazilian Bulgarian Chinese  ...
2009-07-26T23:34:09  <dreimark> it works on my local wiki
2009-07-26T23:34:28  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
2009-07-26T23:37:46  <ThomasWaldmann> i tried it on master19
2009-07-26T23:38:08  <ThomasWaldmann> (there are no lang packs)
2009-07-26T23:38:08  <dreimark> ok, found it
2009-07-26T23:38:24  <dreimark> if there is no lang pack it gives an empty table now and nothing to select
2009-07-26T23:40:47  <dreimark> u need pagepacks on LanguageSetup
2009-07-26T23:42:39  <dreimark> hmm, a hint is only on a master wiki practicle
2009-07-26T23:46:03  <ThomasWaldmann> did you try it with lang packs?
2009-07-26T23:50:00  <dreimark> yes
2009-07-26T23:50:10  <dreimark> that works nice
2009-07-26T23:50:37  <dreimark> make pagepacks in a clone of 1.9
2009-07-26T23:52:19  <ThomasWaldmann> FlupFrontEnd page should get removed again
2009-07-26T23:52:45  <ThomasWaldmann> it is not linked from anywhere and we should just link to the flup website if we put a link somewhere
2009-07-26T23:53:33  <dreimark> ok, then the bug report was also wrong and should be rejected
2009-07-26T23:54:39  <ThomasWaldmann> url?
2009-07-26T23:55:22  <ThomasWaldmann> (remember, we just document our stuff, not 3rd party software)
2009-07-26T23:56:46  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm
2009-07-26T23:57:07  <ThomasWaldmann> wait, that is code from us
2009-07-26T23:59:22  <dreimark> the two msg strings ok?
2009-07-26T23:59:24  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130940/
2009-07-26T23:59:32  <dreimark> the upper one is already used
2009-07-26T23:59:46  <dreimark> tried to make the second one a bit generic, can also be specific