MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-04-01

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2009-04-01T00:46:48  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: who are the other two applicants? anyobdy I know?
2009-04-01T00:47:05  <dennda> did that omar guy apply already?
2009-04-01T00:48:59  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2009-04-01T00:49:12  <dennda> for what precisely?
2009-04-01T00:49:23  <ThomasWaldmann> sqla backend
2009-04-01T00:49:39  <dennda> meh
2009-04-01T00:49:54  <dimazest> denna i've applied too
2009-04-01T00:50:17  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, 3 applications, 1 conflict X)
2009-04-01T00:50:40  <dennda> did he provide contact information?
2009-04-01T00:50:52  <dennda> i really want to do that backend myself... :-)
2009-04-01T00:51:54  <dennda> dimazest: ok, great. you didn't apply for any storage stuff I guess
2009-04-01T00:52:05  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, he did. but i suggest you do that via me if you want to tell him something.
2009-04-01T00:52:24  <dimazest> no
2009-04-01T00:52:26  <dennda> sure, I'm not going to influence him in any way
2009-04-01T00:52:52  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: dimazest still searches for another idea, so it's not too late for another conflict :)
2009-04-01T00:53:05  <dennda> I'm just saying that maybe he doesn't know enough about storage and just picked one of the ideas from the list and may be happy to apply for some other storage related task if we can come up with more
2009-04-01T00:53:15  <dennda> heh
2009-04-01T00:53:34  <dimazest> do i? i applied for 3 ideas, hope that this is enought
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2009-04-01T00:54:32  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: i added a public review to his application, but there is no response from him yet
2009-04-01T00:54:39  <dennda> hm ok
2009-04-01T00:54:48  <dennda> let's hope he responds in time
2009-04-01T00:54:58  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: maybe you can send him an email, inviting him to IRC or something
2009-04-01T00:55:26  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: oh, sorry. i missed that you just edited your proposal.
2009-04-01T00:55:36  <ThomasWaldmann> so just ignore my comment.
2009-04-01T00:56:14  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: maybe do some spell checking
2009-04-01T00:56:19  <dennda> i'm sure we could work out other things that need to be done (related to storage...)
2009-04-01T00:56:57  <dimazest> ok, i really need to write more carefully, i will take a look on the text
2009-04-01T00:57:04  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: the problem is that working within the storage code is maybe a bit too complicated (see last year :D )
2009-04-01T00:57:19  <dennda> the storage code is not complicated
2009-04-01T00:57:23  <dimazest> but now it's time to sleep, good night
2009-04-01T00:57:25  <dennda> the rest of moin is
2009-04-01T00:57:34  <ThomasWaldmann> the backend api you provided makes this easier, there is an api and you just need to conform with it
2009-04-01T00:57:46  <ThomasWaldmann> (for backend coders)
2009-04-01T00:58:08  <dimazest> i leave an irc client open to read messages tomorrow, ciao!
2009-04-01T00:58:16  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess this is why people rather like to do a backend than other stuff :)
2009-04-01T00:58:24  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dimazest
2009-04-01T00:58:39  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: I doubt people know that beforehand
2009-04-01T00:58:50  <dennda> i.e., knowing what's complicated and what's easy
2009-04-01T00:58:53  <dennda> at least I didn't
2009-04-01T00:59:15  <dennda> (of course I did to some extent, but not in this sense)
2009-04-01T00:59:21  <ThomasWaldmann> or maybe sqla is just that sexy
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2009-04-01T00:59:54  <dennda> well, I don't think anybody would have come up with an application for an sqla backend if I hadn't added that idea...
2009-04-01T01:00:49  <ThomasWaldmann> I'll add a comment, maybe he wants to look at the fs* backends
2009-04-01T01:02:45  <dennda> that'd be just great
2009-04-01T01:05:38  <ThomasWaldmann> if someones does this successfully, we wouldn't need to bundle sqla :)
2009-04-01T01:05:51  <dennda> I'm not sure whether fs17 rw is necessary
2009-04-01T01:06:02  <dennda> (given the new filesystem backend works on all platforms)
2009-04-01T01:06:14  <dennda> it wouldn't hurt to do it, would it?
2009-04-01T01:06:23  <dennda> other than giving away a few bytes
2009-04-01T01:06:34  <dennda> well and you need to keep it updated
2009-04-01T01:06:38  <dennda> so yes, I see what you mean
2009-04-01T01:06:43  <ThomasWaldmann> if fs.py is happy on all platforms, that would be enough maybe
2009-04-01T01:06:53  <dennda> and sqla optional
2009-04-01T01:06:54  <dennda> sure
2009-04-01T01:07:01  <ThomasWaldmann> we can readjust goals then to implement some other nifty stuff :)
2009-04-01T01:07:19  <dennda> sqla backend is nifty ;)
2009-04-01T01:07:41  <ThomasWaldmann> I mean for the fs backend.
2009-04-01T01:08:13  <dennda> for the student applying for the fs backend, you mean?
2009-04-01T01:08:23  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2009-04-01T01:08:33  <dennda> ah ok, got that wrong
2009-04-01T01:08:34  <ThomasWaldmann> like maybe taring old rev ranges
2009-04-01T01:08:42  <dennda> thought you were talking about readjusting my goals ;)
2009-04-01T01:08:51  <ThomasWaldmann> no :)
2009-04-01T01:09:09  <dennda> good :-)
2009-04-01T01:09:17  <ThomasWaldmann> or creating a purge policy mechanism
2009-04-01T01:10:02  <ThomasWaldmann> or testing your code :D
2009-04-01T01:10:17  <dennda> i'm sure there will be plenty of tasks
2009-04-01T01:12:48  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i did some comments about your app (was it here or in query?), did you read them?
2009-04-01T01:12:56  <dennda> query
2009-04-01T01:12:57  <dennda> i read them
2009-04-01T01:13:00  <dennda> just forgot about them
2009-04-01T01:13:14  <dennda> and didn't update the draft accordingly
2009-04-01T01:13:16  <dennda> will do tomorrow
2009-04-01T01:13:28  <ThomasWaldmann> today :)
2009-04-01T01:13:55  <dennda> yea
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2009-04-01T01:33:13  <dennda> anyway
2009-04-01T01:33:17  <dennda> i'm going to bed
2009-04-01T01:33:19  <dennda> good night
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2009-04-01T08:36:50  <dreimark> moin
2009-04-01T08:42:04  <TheSheep> dreimark: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/03/31/breaking-internet-explorer-81-eagle-eyes-leaked/
2009-04-01T08:43:50  <dreimark> timezone mismatch
2009-04-01T09:03:25  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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2009-04-01T10:38:07  <CIA-13> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4311:0946442e94ab 1.8/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil: MIMETYPES_MORE extended for .md5 as text/plain
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2009-04-01T11:09:24  <dreimark> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ga5r2SRnOs
2009-04-01T11:10:14  <dreimark> Code Conversations# 3: Leslie Hawthorn - Summer of Code 2009
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2009-04-01T13:29:48  <PawelPacana> moin
2009-04-01T13:30:11  <TheSheep> moinmoin
2009-04-01T13:30:48  <PawelPacana> TheSheep: not mentoring this year?
2009-04-01T13:32:15  <TheSheep> no time
2009-04-01T13:45:42  <TheSheep> PawelPacana: but I will of course try to help if I can
2009-04-01T14:10:57  <PawelPacana> I hope to to hang out here more frequently too
2009-04-01T14:12:39  <TheSheep> I will mostly spread chaos and confusion, probably. Hail Discordia ;)
2009-04-01T14:12:41  <dennda> PawelPacana: applying as student again?
2009-04-01T14:23:49  <PawelPacana> dennda: no time and not student after june
2009-04-01T14:24:02  <dennda> ok
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2009-04-01T15:59:46  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2009-04-01T16:00:17  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: hehe :))
2009-04-01T16:00:38  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: put some LEDs on when running around
2009-04-01T16:00:46  * TheSheep explodes
2009-04-01T16:01:00  <TheSheep> into Mona Lisa
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2009-04-01T17:01:49  <dreimark> bbl
2009-04-01T18:40:29  <dreimark> in a fresh clone currently all wsgi tests of 1.9 do fail for me
2009-04-01T18:44:29  <CIA-13> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4671:83451b52e947 1.9/MoinMoin/support/xapwrap/index.py: add compatibility code for set to xapwrap.index (py 2.6 emits warnings if you use Sets module
2009-04-01T18:44:33  <CIA-13> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4672:357ad7160d15 1.9/MoinMoin/config/__init__.py: add mumble protocol (nice and good quality F/OSS VOIP conference chat software)
2009-04-01T18:44:37  <CIA-13> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4673:307c423cf0d1 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/TableOfContents.py: macro.TableOfContents: bug fix for MoinMoinBugs/TableOfContentsIgnoresSectionNumbersPragma
2009-04-01T18:44:37  <CIA-13> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4674:0946442e94ab 1.9/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil: MIMETYPES_MORE extended for .md5 as text/plain
2009-04-01T18:44:38  <CIA-13> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4675:2b7e69ce6a05 1.9/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): merged moin/1.8
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2009-04-01T19:49:14  <dreimark> cd bbl
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2009-04-01T21:22:34  <ThomasWaldmann> re
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2009-04-01T23:05:19  <dreimark> re
2009-04-01T23:12:55  <dreimark> http://code.google.com/creative/cadie/ lol
2009-04-01T23:30:11  <cbx33> hehe
2009-04-01T23:30:13  <cbx33> yeh that was funny
2009-04-01T23:30:17  <cbx33> did yo usee the opera one?
2009-04-01T23:30:21  <cbx33> about face gestures
2009-04-01T23:30:45  <dreimark> no
2009-04-01T23:33:33  <dreimark> nice it works also in ff don't have seen that I could click on it
2009-04-01T23:34:06  <dreimark> cbx33: do you have ever played with python challenges?
2009-04-01T23:34:27  <cbx33> yes
2009-04-01T23:34:36  <cbx33> i think so
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2009-04-01T23:35:39  <dreimark> the scholar students are quite excited by this kind of game. Me has totally forgot that zip files could have comments.
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2009-04-01T23:35:52  <cbx33> hehe
2009-04-01T23:35:57  <cbx33> I got up to 12 or something
2009-04-01T23:36:18  <cbx33> was a great way to learn python in the beginning
2009-04-01T23:37:31  <dreimark> it is great I like it we have some of the questions discussed in the past at our pycologne usegroup meeting.
2009-04-01T23:37:54  <dreimark> some times it is funny to get where the question is hidden
2009-04-01T23:38:25  <dreimark> dimazest: do you've been challenged?
2009-04-01T23:38:53  <dennda> what challenge? link?
2009-04-01T23:39:01  * dennda only knows notpron, project euler and the like
2009-04-01T23:39:15  <dreimark> http://www.pythonchallenge.com/
2009-04-01T23:39:37  <dimazest> no
2009-04-01T23:47:48  <dreimark> good night
2009-04-01T23:54:12  <grzywacz> cbx33, the opera one?
2009-04-01T23:54:43  <cbx33> http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/04/01/
2009-04-01T23:57:19  <grzywacz> win
2009-04-01T23:59:26  <cbx33> I like the bookmark gesture